Canada is a failed state

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OutInTheRain said:
One of the issues the Canadian government is having is no one knows how to build anything. Canada has been stagnating since the 60s. Our politicians have been obsessed with keeping the status quo going at all costs and not creating, not building. Harper at least tried to build up the oil sands and the west. But the Ottawa crowd is wholly hostile to the idea of economic power being developed outside of Southern Ontario and Quebec.
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It's kinda like Russia in that both countries are ultra-centralized in a few cities
OutInTheRain said:
Our main media is the government run CBC which has a pipeline between them and the Liberal party. The CBCs audience of Boomers is obsessed with the US and pretending to be superior so their kneejerk reaction is to come down on the Democrat side of any issue and then double down. This serves as a distraction from our own issues and corruption, and then when things do come out, they get quickly buried and the boomers go back to seething about whatever Republican is in office.
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My theory is that this is a psychological response to Canada pretty much having no culture in the post-ww2 world. This could also be why Canadians try and co-opt the British burning down the white house as our own accomplishment so badly.
 
paddy_wagon said:
Are the Chinese EVs really that bad? I was actually looking forward to those BYD (?) cars that go for like 9000 USD. Would actually make sense to own one just for daily commuting.
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The cheap prices on them is because China heavily subsidizes them. The $9000 USD EVs that are sold in China would cost much more in other countries, as most countries have implemented tariffs to try to stave off mass dumpings of them, and some countries like India flat out banned Chinese car imports to protect local automakers.

There have also been numerous reports about quality issues with them, i.e. numerous battery fires, frequent break downs, heavily cost-cutted interiors and internal parts, but since most of the bigger brands like BYD and Xiaomi have ties to the CCP, the CCP cracks down on any form of criticism of their cars, because it is deemed to be an insult to the nation. Some automakers like BYD even have bounty programs to report anyone that says anything bad about them. Another complication is that some automakers are doing invisible PR programs to try to defame their competitors, and the CCP uses that as justification for the harsh crackdowns on criticism, even as those PR programs get mixed with people who have actual issues with their EVs and the dealers/automakers refuse to help them.

I talked a lot more about Chinese EV issues in the Tesla Hate Thread, and here's some examples of the said issues:

Faraday Future (a well-known EV Grift company), reveals the FX Super One, a re-badged GWM Van, which copy-pasted the description of it and had to re-edit it, and the front screen was photoshopped. Also, DCAR performed over 200 tests of Chinese car ADAS systems and their collision avoidance capabilities, and Tesla's ones performed the best, while most Chinese brands either failed most of the tests or even all of them:
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EV Grift Company Faraday Future announced the "arrival" of their "second car", the FX Super One van, a rebadged version of the GWM Wey Gaoshan 9 van. / Archive

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However, it was quickly discovered that they copy-pasted the Gaoshan 9's description of the van and had to quickly edit it out:

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Top, before modification: Gaoshan 9 comes standard with an intelligent electric AWD system, equipped with front and rear dual motors and millisecond-level torque distribution technology. It delivers a sedan-like, precise, and smooth driving...
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Li Auto got controversy over an advertising campaign where their new i8 collides head-on with a truck, but the i8 gets seemingly little-to-no damage that breaks the laws of physics, so people think that Li Auto doctored this test to make the car look better than it actually is:
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Li Auto has gotten controversy after the video reveal for the new i8 shows a head-on collision test of the car with a truck. / Archive

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The footage shows the truck's wheels lifting off the ground, but I don't think the laws of physics works that way. Either this test car is made of INDESTRUCTIUM, or that truck must be made of literal tin cans instead of actual metal, given how Chinese companies have been caught cheating on tests like this, in addition to their culture being based around "cheat, but don't get caught".
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BYD forces workers to work unpaid overtime:
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BYD is coming under fire for allegedly forcing workers to work unpaid overtime. / Archive

BYD and Geely are also butting heads with BYD's price cuts fueling a price war in China. / Archive

And more BYDs are suffering from issues, include a Denza (which is BYD's luxury brand) catching fire while being serviced, a Malaysian BYD Atto 3 getting bought back by BYD due to issues, and more BYDs crashing and getting damaged in more severe ways than even Nissan car crashes, showcasing the severe cost-cutting that happens with Chinese cars:

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Some brands like BYD have registered unsold new EVs as sold, and sells them as 0 KM used cars, to get government subsidies and to ease overbloated inventory:
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A recent trend has been discovered about Chinese auto makers using a "0 KM used car" scheme, where unsold new cars are registered, and then sold as used cars despite having almost 0 KM in mileage on them. / Archive

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The 0 KM used car scheme is used to help automakers "meet" sales targets, offload new car inventories that are getting overbloated, to benefit from Government subsidies, and to sell those cars as exports in other countries.

This also results in another drop in car prices, which worsens the resale values of these cars that are bought new, and is...
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3 women were killed when their Xiaomi SU7 crashed into a highway barrier while it was driven with ADAS on:
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In the first fatal Xiaomi SU7 crash, three female college students died when it crashed into a concrete barrier, it bursted into flames, and they couldn't get out of the car so they turned into charbroil. / Archive

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The crash appears to be both the fault of the driver and Xiaomi. The driver was overconfident of the car's autopilot feature and intervened too late to stop before hitting or move out of the way of the barrier, and Xiaomi is at fault for providing the said overconfidence with the car's autopilot feature, as well as using a...
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Taser Confetti said:
What's the logic of sabotaging the economy within your own nation?
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setting up a disaster by which to impose totalitarianism in the excuse embodiment of "The Emergencies Act". Ultimate goal? Selling off the country for parts to Dykes Dykes or whoever.

paddy_wagon said:
Are the Chinese EVs really that bad? I was actually looking forward to those BYD (?) cars that go for like 9000 USD. Would actually make sense to own one just for daily commuting.
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I wouldn't want a chinese spyware/malware car.
 
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Thiletonomics said:
Would any of the Leafland cities come close to being like CWCVille though? They still have a long way to go to catch up on the sheer amount of Soup Hotels that CWCVille has.
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I'm now imagining Carney monitoring every house in Canada to make sure no straight activity is going on.
 
One comment that @OutInTheRain made had been eating away at me for the afternoon, about how Canadians have devolved into petulant idiots. It's insidious how we as a nation have covered that petulance with a veil of forced positivity. A common response to any criticism, complaint, or even pointing out the nation's flaws is that you are being "too negative" and "talking down Canada" according to the Liberal base or even the NDPers. They respond the same way to any criticism of the healthcare system, immigration, and multiculturalism. Affluent white female Liberals (AWFLs) are the worst, though. They frequently employ this tactic to divert attention away from the issue and isolate the target. It IS them gaslighting their opponents into submission. Remember how the Left went ballistic when Poilievre had the audacity to say that Canada was broken? They harped on about how Poilievre "complained" while never offering any policy alternatives when they had in fact deliberately ignored his solutions and cheered when Carney half-heartedly implemented said solutions.

Don't get me wrong. A positive attitude can be extremely helpful, but happy thoughts are not a substitute for decisive action. Boosterisms and empty platitudes like "One Canadian Economy" and "Elbows Up" are likewise no substitute for sound policy. Canadians are insufferable Pollyannas because they simply refuse to accept responsibility for their poor decision to support an irredeemably corrupt Liberal Party for four consecutive terms. They were the ones to support them after the SNC-Lavalin, WE Charity, Arrivescam, and SDTC slush fund scandals. They were the ones who fiddled while economy burned and the Feds imported the entirety of Punjab into our cities and the hinterlands just so the corporations have a pool of de facto indentured labor. No, Canada is in such dire straights because they refuse to address the problem because it harms their delicate sensibilities. This is the reason why I have dark fantasies of nuclear fire cleansing the GTA, Montreal, Ottawa, and the Lower Mainland. It's their refusal to adapt that prevents Canada from moving forward.
 
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Hectic Heckler said:
Funny problem with my EV ChongWagon though, whenever I say the word "Panda", it suddenly steers towards the nearest guard rail on the highway. Careful, leafbros!
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And watch out for those retractable electronic door handles, they also have an auto-break feature that seems to trigger when the battery catches fire and someone is inside the car!
 

This may have been posted already. Data from the TFW, IMP programs and Study Permits.

Unsurprisingly, the TFW program that Pierre wants to scrap accounts accounts for the smaller numbers out of of the three. In 2024, TFW brought in less than 300,000 migrants, while the IMP had over 1,800,000.

I just knew intuitively that would be the case when that weasel announced last week he wants to scrap the TFW program. Hasn't stopped a slew of pieces quoting the experts on how of course, the TFW program doesn't depress wages. Trying to cancel the study permits or IMP would probably get your bank account frozen, or assassinated.
 
Jetpack Himmler said:
One comment that @OutInTheRain made had been eating away at me for the afternoon, about how Canadians have devolved into petulant idiots. It's insidious how we as a nation have covered that petulance with a veil of forced positivity.
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Toxic positivity is what you're referring to, and it's a widespread problem. People are coerced by groupthink to maintain a positive attitude and never raise criticisms because it might hurt someone's feefees, and anyone who goes against the grain is othered as a bad influence. Typically, though, its effects are contained to a single organization or business at a time. Canada is what happens when you have an entire country ruled by it.
 
King Dead said:
Toxic positivity is what you're referring to, and it's a widespread problem. People are coerced by groupthink to maintain a positive attitude and never raise criticisms because it might hurt someone's feefees, and anyone who goes against the grain is othered as a bad influence. Typically, though, its effects are contained to a single organization or business at a time. Canada is what happens when you have an entire country ruled by it.
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Except go out and talk to any White Canadian and they are talking about Jeets openly and something needs to be done about them. The only places you don’t hear that are at expensive brunch restaurants that the traitor elite class attends
 
Lobster Cult High Priest said:
Except go out and talk to any White Canadian and they are talking about Jeets openly and something needs to be done about them. The only places you don’t hear that are at expensive brunch restaurants that the traitor elite class attends
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I wouldn't know because thank God I'm not Canadian, but talk is cheap. The idiots just voted the same party that inflicted infinite jeets on them into power again, as though it'll go better this time around. Granted, there really isn't an option to vote for that isn't for that, only varying in how fast they import them, but still, when they cared more about Trump than their own future when voting, you gotta ask what the fuck is going through their heads.

Doesn't help that the government is more concerned with cracking down on wrongthink instead of fixing the problems, which ties back into the toxic positivity. Would be a shame if you got debanked or arrested for making the powers that be look bad, now wouldn't it?

I do hope that things can turn around, but Canucks are going to have to accept that fixing the mess they're in is going to require them to be a lot less than polite.
 
King Dead said:
I wouldn't know because thank God I'm not Canadian, but talk is cheap. The idiots just voted the same party that inflicted infinite jeets on them into power again, as though it'll go better this time around. Granted, there really isn't an option to vote for that isn't for that, only varying in how fast they import them, but still, when they cared more about Trump than their own future when voting, you gotta ask what the fuck is going through their heads.

Doesn't help that the government is more concerned with cracking down on wrongthink instead of fixing the problems, which ties back into the toxic positivity. Would be a shame if you got debanked or arrested for making the powers that be look bad, now wouldn't it?

I do hope that things can turn around, but Canucks are going to have to accept that fixing the mess they're in is going to require them to be a lot less than polite.
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What were the alternative options in the last election?

PPC is a meme party that is a cult of personality for Max.

CPC is the Jeet small business owner party (the small businesses being scams and price gouging, if they aren't scamming the customer they are scamming the government by closing up every 2-3 years, transferring ownership to their cousin and then opening an identical business)

NDP is the Chug party where all the Chugs ended up switching to LPC in the last election.

Your point about talk being cheap is correct though.

Apparently Second Sons had been flooded with recruitment inquiries / applications to join.
 
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