Canada is a failed state

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Jetpack Himmler said:
An Office of Major Projects? Oh great, we'll probably get shovels in the ground by 2050 if we're lucky. Canada needs decisive action right now and the only thing he offers is more theatre, and quite poor theatre at that. At least you could laugh at Trudeau's incompetence.
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By 2050, that's so optimistic, chances it might be get shovels in the grounds around 2080 or 2070 if we're lucky.
 
BulkForceFive said:
Ah, but the tariffs are now being questioned legally and Elon is no longer in the inner circle! Plus China's ag tariffs are actually causing disruption to our producers and they will likely pull them if we let them sell their rolling bugman cookers here. Carney should have put his ELBOWS UP and pivoted trade away from the US instead of pulling his PANTS DOWN and taking it up the ass.



Fantastic. Wonderful. There goes the female vote!
"yeah um if someone breaks into your house just strip naked and lie there while he rapes you, it's the Canadian Way!"
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IT AINT RAPE IF FEMALES CONSENT.

RAPE STATS TO ZERO!

SAFEST COUNTRY ON EARTH!!!!
 
Jetpack Himmler said:
As for Carney, the Liberal Party, and NDP being economic flat-earthers, they might as well be that in the scientific sense. What does Carney know about engineering, chemistry, or any physical science? Jack shit. He will only listen to "experts" that validate his own conclusions. I have doubts that he is a competent economist because he would have tabled a budget by now and proposed a few nation-building projects by now if there were truly a crisis. The freaking Germans were able to build an LNG import terminal in the time he was PM. What do we get done? An Office of Major Projects? Oh great, we'll probably get shovels in the ground by 2050 if we're lucky. Canada needs decisive action right now and the only thing he offers is more theatre, and quite poor theatre at that. At least you could laugh at Trudeau's incompetence.
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One of the issues the Canadian government is having is no one knows how to build anything. Canada has been stagnating since the 60s. Our politicians have been obsessed with keeping the status quo going at all costs and not creating, not building. Harper at least tried to build up the oil sands and the west. But the Ottawa crowd is wholly hostile to the idea of economic power being developed outside of Southern Ontario and Quebec.

The only thing we've built is crappy colleges that need Indians imported en mass to stay afloat. We were going to be a nation of wise philosopher kings and instead we became petulant idiots, while the capable left for greener pastures. The only post-graduate degree holders that stay in the country are lawyers and it shows. So much of what is wrong with Canada is the fault of underemployed lawyers looking for a payday. From native shit, to trans shit, to the Human Rights Tribunals. All exists to keep lawyers employed.
 
OutInTheRain said:
Harper at least tried to build up the oil sands and the west. But the Ottawa crowd is wholly hostile to the idea of economic power being developed outside of Southern Ontario and Quebec.
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This has gone on since early into Confederation as Ottawa refused to build infrastructure in the North-West Territories prior to the creation of Alberta and Saskatchewan (at least, according to a channel I stumbled upon on YouTube). Hell, the citizens of said territory wanted to enter confederation as one province, but Ottawa split it into two to curb its influence. Then there is the problem of representation in the Senate and even the House of Commons. Alberta was almost twice the population of the Maritimes, but only slightly more seats in the HoC (our 37 to their 32 combined). I suspect this underrepresentation is deliberate as Southern Ontario and Quebec do not want any challenges to their current hegemony. It's no wonder that I quietly support Alberta independence.
 
Jetpack Himmler said:
This has gone on since early into Confederation as Ottawa refused to build infrastructure in the North-West Territories prior to the creation of Alberta and Saskatchewan (at least, according to a channel I stumbled upon on YouTube). Hell, the citizens of said territory wanted to enter confederation as one province, but Ottawa split it into two to curb its influence. Then there is the problem of representation in the Senate and even the House of Commons. Alberta was almost twice the population of the Maritimes, but only slightly more seats in the HoC (our 37 to their 32 combined). I suspect this underrepresentation is deliberate as Southern Ontario and Quebec do not want any challenges to their current hegemony. It's no wonder that I quietly support Alberta independence.
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One of Ottawa's first acts after Confederation was to strangle the economy of the Maritime provinces. The last 160 years have been about building Southern Ontario and Quebec at all costs and keeping political and economic power concentrated there. It's why we don't trade east to west. It is why will never have free trade within Canada. If they found oil in Quebec, you wouldn't hear a peep about green policies.

Even within Ontario and Quebec, the urban areas lose their minds when economic opportunity is granted to the rest of the province.
 
OutInTheRain said:
One of Ottawa's first acts after Confederation was to strangle the economy of the Maritime provinces. The last 160 years have been about building Southern Ontario and Quebec at all costs and keeping political and economic power concentrated there. It's why we don't trade east to west. It is why will never have free trade within Canada. If they found oil in Quebec, you wouldn't hear a peep about green policies.

Even within Ontario and Quebec, the urban areas lose their minds when economic opportunity is granted to the rest of the province.
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What's the logic of sabotaging the economy within your own nation?
 
Taser Confetti said:
What's the logic of sabotaging the economy within your own nation?
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It keeps economic and political power centralized. The Canadian government at all levels loves to pick economic winners and losers. The government creates oligopolies that rely on government patronage to keep the status quo. Like the dairy cartels in Canada. Those that benefit then kick back to the party keeping the status quo in place. If economic opportunity flows to other provinces or regions, then competing power structures might rise. Which is a threat to the existing power structure and must be destroyed.

It has grown worse with the knowledge that Canadian politicians can live ANYWHERE else other than Canada when they leave office. So there isn't any desire to nation build. People were living in sod houses on the prairies until the 70s. Newfoundland has regions that didn't get power until the early 2000s. I distinctly remember when my medium sized town got cable in the 90s.
 
Jetpack Himmler said:
This has gone on since early into Confederation as Ottawa refused to build infrastructure in the North-West Territories prior to the creation of Alberta and Saskatchewan (at least, according to a channel I stumbled upon on YouTube). Hell, the citizens of said territory wanted to enter confederation as one province, but Ottawa split it into two to curb its influence. Then there is the problem of representation in the Senate and even the House of Commons. Alberta was almost twice the population of the Maritimes, but only slightly more seats in the HoC (our 37 to their 32 combined). I suspect this underrepresentation is deliberate as Southern Ontario and Quebec do not want any challenges to their current hegemony. It's no wonder that I quietly support Alberta independence.
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I tell this to my American friends who think that canada isnt as bad as I say it is, being from the west as well it is abundantly clear that the nation has been set up to benefit the east disproportionately. The fact that the west has all of this oil wealth spooked the eastern power brokers, so at different times the government has set out to rob (or more recently destroy) the means of producing wealth for the west in order to keep us in line with them. And just for added measure stuffed ontario full of jeets and permanently enshrined the amount of seats quebec gets into law so it can never be decreased.
 
The moment Carney is out of office he will fuck off with his family back to Europe. He has zero motivation or incentive to improve this country at all.
 
Thiletonomics said:
If you thought Jeets driving Teslas were bad, imagine them driving BYDs and Xiaomis instead.
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Having seen some of the bullshit Xiaomi's gotten up to, I would think you'd be cheering for natural selection on this one. Chinese EVs hate the driver more than anything.
Jetpack Himmler said:
As for Carney, the Liberal Party, and NDP being economic flat-earthers, they might as well be that in the scientific sense.
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This is wrong.

At least Flat Earthers can cobble together a semblance of physics to support themselves.
OutInTheRain said:
One of the issues the Canadian government is having is no one knows how to build anything. Canada has been stagnating since the 60s. Our politicians have been obsessed with keeping the status quo going at all costs and not creating, not building.
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I'm an optimist on this. More often than not, the people do in fact know how to build things, that information generally doesn't die out entirely. Usually, stagnation this bad always comes down to government fuckery, and we're all basically waiting for the reincarnation of Cornelius Vanderbilt to show up, tell the regulations to go to hell, and make his own steamship line construction facilities.

Of course that means someone in Canada needs to get out of the cuck shed and not look back wistfully upon it. I got no clue if/when that happens. It'll be great if/when it happens, but until then...
 
Taser Confetti said:
Was this 80IQ alcoholic hillbillies like the people still living in tar paper shacks in Appalachia or spiteful, economic oppression? Is Canada the most corrupt nation in the Anglosphere?
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We imported Ukrainians en masse and dumped them in the prairies to settle the area. You got off the train and walked to your land claim, which most definitely did not have trees. So you pulled up the sod, stacked it to make walls and lived in that instead. You then did subsistence farming in a place that spent months at -40.

As for corruption, it is a very real possibility. Our main media is the government run CBC which has a pipeline between them and the Liberal party. The CBCs audience of Boomers is obsessed with the US and pretending to be superior so their kneejerk reaction is to come down on the Democrat side of any issue and then double down. This serves as a distraction from our own issues and corruption, and then when things do come out, they get quickly buried and the boomers go back to seething about whatever Republican is in office.
 
Taser Confetti said:
How much of this is due to cultural contamination from American boomers fleeing to Canada during the Vietnam war you think?
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Very little there were more Canadians who went south to fight with the Americans in Vietnam than there was draft dodgers coming to Canada. Canadians watch American news, American tv and American movies. There are Canadians who can tell me what Tim Walz's shoe size is but can't name their local Member of Parliament. Most Canadians are culturally American. Adopting the worst tendencies of Blue State America.
 
Jetpack Himmler said:
Then there is the problem of representation in the Senate and even the House of Commons. Alberta was almost twice the population of the Maritimes, but only slightly more seats in the HoC (our 37 to their 32 combined). I suspect this underrepresentation is deliberate as Southern Ontario and Quebec do not want any challenges to their current hegemony. It's no wonder that I quietly support Alberta independence.
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To be fair it's not as much deliberate as it's been baked into our constitution from day one. The Maritimes retain such oversized representation (particularly PEI with its four!) because they're constitutionally guaranteed a minimum Parliamentary seat count. Alberta and to an extent Saskatchewan are the few significant beneficiaries of census seat changes every cycle, but those changes gets cancelled out by Ontario's own (jeet infested) growth ensuring every new Con riding out west is matched by another Toronto or Upper Canada riding. Immigration policy these days is as much about keeping Ontario and Quebec top dogs as it is appeasing treasonous business leaders.

Related to this the one thing to watch is the UCP is quietly testing the waters regarding the Albertan municipal legislature map. There's some movement on encouraging the elections board to draw ridings with equal rural-urban split rather than treating cities as separate entities. If that actually goes through with the next census cycle any chance of the Albertan NDP getting back into power is gone forever .
 
An Idle Observer said:
Having seen some of the bullshit Xiaomi's gotten up to, I would think you'd be cheering for natural selection on this one. Chinese EVs hate the driver more than anything.
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There are other dangers with those low-quality Chinese EVs that would affect other people too. One is when those Jeets either accelerate into stores or houses with them, either by a pedal mixup or an ADAS malfunction, and then they yell "SAAR THE CAR BROKE" and somehow manage to escape being held liable for a crash. Or when those EVs catch fire in places like parking lots and burn down hundreds of cars, as seen in other EV parking lot fire incidents.

I would like to see how those Pajeets would react when they try to get their Chinese EVs serviced, but the dealer tells them to SUCK IT, in the usual Chinese automaker fashion.
 
Thiletonomics said:
I would like to see how those Pajeets would react when they try to get their Chinese EVs serviced, but the dealer tells them to SUCK IT, in the usual Chinese automaker fashion.
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From what I've heard, "customer service" is a lot more intensive than you might be appreciating.

They'll send crews out to remove the badging off cars that have accidents. It's crazy the shit Xiaomi is pulling.
 
Thiletonomics said:
There are other dangers with those low-quality Chinese EVs that would affect other people too. One is when those Jeets either accelerate into stores or houses with them, either by a pedal mixup or an ADAS malfunction, and then they yell "SAAR THE CAR BROKE" and somehow manage to escape being held liable for a crash. Or when those EVs catch fire in places like parking lots and burn down hundreds of cars, as seen in other EV parking lot fire incidents.

I would like to see how those Pajeets would react when they try to get their Chinese EVs serviced, but the dealer tells them to SUCK IT, in the usual Chinese automaker fashion.
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An Idle Observer said:
From what I've heard, "customer service" is a lot more intensive than you might be appreciating.

They'll send crews out to remove the badging off cars that have accidents. It's crazy the shit Xiaomi is pulling.
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Are the Chinese EVs really that bad? I was actually looking forward to those BYD (?) cars that go for like 9000 USD. Would actually make sense to own one just for daily commuting.
 
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