Canada is a failed state

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The Alberta plebiscite next year will tell how much appetite for western separation there really is.
I disagree. I think that for plebiscites to matter, everyone has to vote, and I don't think that will happen. If a plebiscite has a turnout of 40%, and 60% of those that voted were over the age of 60, then does it really matter?

I imagine they'll hold it on like a random Tuesday morning from 9AM to 11AM, during a major thunderstorm, and the voting stations will be few and far between. Voting in Canada is basically figuring out how to shuttle in a million 85-year-olds from select nursing homes while making it exceedingly inconvenient for anyone in the 18-35 demographic. Sometimes I wish we had that Australian "you have to vote or else you get a fine" method when it comes to the democratic process. It'd do a lot to improve voter turnout and make things more clear.
 
There is a divide because the Boomers grew up with post-WWII modernist movements that literally destroyed much of our heritage. Most of us grew up not knowing the beauty of Latin hymns, pipe organ music, and Baroque altars, instead we had felt banners held together by Elmer's Glue and Walmart altars. Sorry Boomers, the youth don't like Bob Dylan guitar hymns and priests acting like counterfeit Jordan Petersons. Yikes.

Sorry if it get's personal but the parish I grew up in was literally hijacked after the residential schools headlines, the European priest got replaced by a Pajeet Jordan Peterson, it was already unbearable, it just got worse. Thanks Boomers, great job. Wow. So nice.

The generational divide exists for many reasons but exactly because the Boomers had the world handed to them on a silver platter and they decided to take a dump on it.
Don't lecture me on my religion.

If you want to be an actual catholic, follow the Church. The papacy gave people the option of holding mass in the vernacular, or in the traditional Latin mass. You can go to any community that you wish to experience either. If youre in Ontario, I can point out numerous churches that still hold the Latin mass, for example. There are reasons for changing the homily and majority of the mass to the vernacular, so more could evangelize and share in the Christ's miracle.

Thats just aesthetics, however.

If its, the Indians are catholic but I don't recognize them- we are all called to Christ as his children, equal under god. You're picking the wrong cloak to try and garb your views. I'm not even agreeing or disagreeing with the racism, I don't frankly care- but I am stating, every time I see a 'tradcath' online, its usually the most innane groyper shit that you'd see on twitter, with 'Deus Veult, we need to crusade to save the West'

and its just as cringy as a reddit fedora atheist coming in to declare 'Wow, thank science', except its used to try and add flavor to some of the worst political takes (and badly, in a way which ignores the compassion, humility, and servitude of the christ and the saints that we are called to emulate).


Sorry if it get's personal but the parish I grew up in was literally hijacked after the residential schools headlines, the European priest got replaced by a Pajeet Jordan Peterson, it was already unbearable, it just got worse. Thanks Boomers, great job. Wow. So nice.

Whether you dislike Pajeet Jordan Peterson or not, and when did the parish call upon you to denigrate your fellow man? I get it, but like - if its catholicism, you realize we are a global church, and this is embraced by the papacy. You need to look elsewhere.

Its not even about the Elmer's glue or paper mache or whatever. People get lost on the aesthetics, and ignore the substance of whats within. Its like talking to someone who saw the last crusade and bemoans that the blood of Christ was in the pauper's cup when God himself choose a life of servitude and suffering. There's a time and place for grandeur, I see it when Im in South Europe, but I digress.

Harper was the best placeholder in a sea of Mulroney, Chrétien, Trudeaus and Carneys.

When was the last time we actually had a decent Prime Minister? I can't think of any. Pierre Trudeau's legacy of constitutionally entrenched multiculturalism is the reason why your child is going to grow up in a sea of Mohammads, and Gurwinders.

You're not going to like this, but probably Trudeau Sr is the one youre looking for. While I dislike the guy for reasons, hes probably the most consequential prime minister we had over the 20th century. He renegotiated and reformed native affairs from the ground up, crushed the FLQ, integrated Quebec, 'modernized' Canada with the charter, it was under his watch that Toronto grew into a financial hub, etc.

If its multiculturalism, hes the one who actually negated most of the Indian act and tried to integrate the natives as fellow citizens first, modernizing most of the treaties (except in BC). Its why the fed is able to act in certain ways on reserves. If its multiculturalism, he had a moderate approach with limited migration, and helped cement the points based system, which used to be the pride of the nation. He's not the reason we grew up in a sea of Mohammads or Gurwinders- though his progeny will be.

Even then though- youre right, most prime ministers are simply 'placeholders'. They maintain the status quo other past prime ministers made.

Diefenbaker is a favourite of mine, among others- but we really havn't had any actual consequential prime ministers in forever.
 
How? Unless they decide to join the states, I dont see why jeets or niggers care.
The ones pushing for Albertan separatism are the big-business people, the landowners, and the politicians. All three groups benefit greatly from unchecked mass migration. An independent Alberta would be renamed Khalbertastan in less than a generation. Obviously an independent Alberta is a pipe dream, but the smokers don't seem to realize how bad the trip would really be.
 
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Somalis talk about Canada.
 
I disagree. I think that for plebiscites to matter, everyone has to vote, and I don't think that will happen. If a plebiscite has a turnout of 40%, and 60% of those that voted were over the age of 60, then does it really matter?

I imagine they'll hold it on like a random Tuesday morning from 9AM to 11AM, during a major thunderstorm, and the voting stations will be few and far between. Voting in Canada is basically figuring out how to shuttle in a million 85-year-olds from select nursing homes while making it exceedingly inconvenient for anyone in the 18-35 demographic. Sometimes I wish we had that Australian "you have to vote or else you get a fine" method when it comes to the democratic process. It'd do a lot to improve voter turnout and make things more clear.
That was how Nova Scotia did it for ages. Anytime a referendum on an issue came up, they would add it to the municipal election ballots which saw 20% turnout. The last big one was Sunday shopping in the 2000s. Being able to do grocery shopping on a Sunday took years and it only happened because Pete Luckett starting cordoning off areas of grocery stores on Sunday.

Canada has always had these issues with elections. For years there would be people bribing you outside of polling stations. Or thugs threatening to beat you if you didn't vote right. Newfoundland had Joey Smallwood threatening regions if they didn't send his guy to Ottawa. All of this stuff gets glossed over in Canadian history. But the Canadian government has always been dripping in scandal since Confederation.
 
You're not going to like this, but probably Trudeau Sr is the one youre looking for.

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We don't have a culture, or a national identity, we're just an economic zone, thanks Pierre Trudeau!

There's no point in discussing the infighting of Catholicism if you didn't even know that half of the Catholic Church are Byzantine Catholics praying in Greek and living out 12th century Greek culture, while the other half are Latin Catholics who are supposed to be United Nations with Pajeet Jordan Petersons.

The existing Catholic Church is already divided in two, the Byzantines who want to stay Greek, and the Latins who decided Pajeet Jordan Petersons are great.
 
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Jeets are bad enough, we do not need somalis here too.
Too late for that already. But it seems that Somalis in Canada are somewhat less rabid?

It may be because the waves of mass immigration occurred earlier than in the US (80s-90s vs constant injections of new Somalis). Italians in Canada immigrated later than Italians in the US and their assimilation is far less apparent than the Italians in the US.

But regardless it is ultimately a burden.

Dire situation with mainstream Canadian 'conservatism':
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Too late for that already. But it seems that Somalis in Canada are somewhat less rabid?

It may be because the waves of mass immigration occurred earlier than in the US (80s-90s vs constant injections of new Somalis). Italians in Canada immigrated later than Italians in the US and their assimilation is far less apparent than the Italians in the US.

But regardless it is ultimately a burden.
The italians here didnt integrate as well as the ones in the states?
The real blackpill is when you realise that most (((conservatives))) are just liberals/progressives with some conservative fiscal values or who are not far left enough for the actual liberal party/ndp.
 
Too late for that already. But it seems that Somalis in Canada are somewhat less rabid?

It may be because the waves of mass immigration occurred earlier than in the US (80s-90s vs constant injections of new Somalis). Italians in Canada immigrated later than Italians in the US and their assimilation is far less apparent than the Italians in the US.

But regardless it is ultimately a burden.

Dire situation with mainstream Canadian 'conservatism':
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The italians here didnt integrate as well as the ones in the states?

The real blackpill is when you realise that most (((conservatives))) are just liberals/progressives with some conservative fiscal values or who are not far left enough for the actual liberal party/ndp.
This makes more sense when most of the Provincial parties are called "progressive conservatives"
 
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