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Its a pity Max doesn't actually try to campaign and put himself out there, we could really use the PPC in politics. Instead all he does is pop up a month or two before the election and then doesn't understand why he never gets a single seat.
 
unholysedation777 said:
As much as I despise jeets as an overall group, some of them came here genuinely expecting to integrate in a prosperous, white, first world country, completely unaware of the quality of living, only to be greeted with the same steaming piles of shite they left behind. And what else is there for them to do other than assimilate back into what they left behind? Canadian culture is dead, there's no other choice but to continue living exactly like you already did, which in turn helps to beat an already long dead horse. It's almost too good to be true for the typical 3rd world country, we advertise ourselves to have all the same qualities as the USA but we're totally heckin' wholesome and not racist and we accept EVERYONE, way better than the States, right? And indeed, it is too good to be true, this is what happens when you make your entire personality being nice and accepting to everyone who comes your way. I can't help but feel sympathetic because they came here for the very same reason and expectations many families did 20-30 years ago without realising that time is over. And you have to admit, that's a sad reality for anyone to face, jeet or not.

I save all of my hatred for the people who come here not intending or planning to change a single thing. I hate all the people who come here to get a diploma, take all the wagie jobs in the area, then fuck off back to their own home country once they've taken what they need. They are the real parasites and the reason Canada is no longer a country but a multicultural hellhole with no soul.
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I've thought similar things; though my sympathy has limits.

You'd be right in putting the majority of the blame on the government, on the cartels/businesses (including universities), and on the shiftless people who voted this situation into happening. Someone, somewhere, should have put their foot down and said 'no, too much, too many migrants, chill the fuck out' a long, long time ago.

For the Indians though, theyre not fully victims either.

a) You need to have a certain amount of money to emigrate to Canada, enough to support yourself for a year. Now, while the government can fudge the stats (ie, 10k is what was required to 'live here for a year' 2 years ago)

So many Indians were grossly unprepared for even this, or literally scammed their way in- taking loans and then returning them just so their banks showed the money, even temporarily, that they know what theyre getting into.

b) theyre here as students, not as workers- so working outside of that 10k shouldn't even be a concern. As with the Chinese, theyre here to get a degree then bounce the fuck out, or thats what it should be in theory

and then,

c) They dont do any research before they leave their country, apparently. The moment I heard I would be sharing a flat, and a literal bed (they do bed shares now) with 30 other people, I would know that where I was moving to was not the first world nation it was 20 or 30 years ago.


unholysedation777 said:
I can't help but feel sympathetic because they came here for the very same reason and expectations many families did 20-30 years ago without realising that time is over.
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For this part, its a sad reality to face- but its one that they willingly stepped into- and thats where my sympathy dies.
 
I don't really understand the Poilievre hate train, he's literally just a milktoast Conservative politician. Carney and Trudeau are establishment Liberals.

Harper was our last decent prime minister, with Harper the Canadian dollar was stronger than the US. I am not even a Harper fan, just objectively we had a strong dollar and it gave us Canadians way more spending power.

Trudeau and Carney haven't delivered anything comparable at all, we're economically just worse off.

As for the Indians, I don't make friends with Indians. I have zero interest in them. I come from a Western Traditional Latin Catholic background. I literally have nothing to do with Hindu Indians. Voluntary segregation works both ways. Even the Christian Indians are cringe, the majority are just not Westernized whatsoever.
 
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karaokeman said:
I don't really understand the Poilievre hate train, he's literally just a milktoast Conservative politician. Carney and Trudeau are establishment Liberals.

Harper was our last decent prime minister, with Harper the Canadian dollar was stronger than the US. I am not even a Harper fan, just objectively we had a strong dollar and it gave us Canadians way more spending power.

Trudeau and Carney haven't delivered anything comparable at all, we're economically just worse off.

As for the Indians, I don't make friends with Indians. I have zero interest in them. I come from a Western Traditional Latin Catholic background. I literally have nothing to do with Hindu Indians. Voluntary segregation works both ways. Even the Christian Indians are cringe, the majority are just not Westernized whatsoever.
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Tradcath shit is gay because everywhere you go online its some groyper having to announce it non-stop the same way reddit atheists would announce it unprompted, or gay people would announce that they took dicks unannounced.

Most actual "tradcaths" are pretty enthusiastic about the global church, except for people under 20.

karaokeman said:
I don't really understand the Poilievre hate train, he's literally just a milktoast Conservative politician
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When someone promises the world, and then says 'great, now let me import 500k Khalistani brothers instead of 700k Hindustani dogs' you deserve the ire.

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karaokeman said:
Carney and Trudeau are establishment Liberals.
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There is no difference. I don't mean that in the edgelord 'all liberal democratic parties are the same'. I mean that in the sense of, if you hate Carney or Trudeau- PP comes from the same source of the rot.

I'm not saying to adopt some far right cringy 'we need fascism now approach!' etc. I'm just identifying the problem and why people dislike PP. I don't know what the answer is, I just know that we don't have solutions with these parties and our current class of politicians.

karaokeman said:
Harper was our last decent prime minister
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He had his own problems, but he was okay. Much of what we faced under Trudeau was started and starting under Harper. We lost a decade of innovation, we wern't actually that business friendly, we let China steal all our tech, we let our own tech sector effectively drown (blackberry), the housing bubble 'never popped' and effectively continued to balloon, etc.

Ask someone who graduated in 2009 - 2014 how the Harper years were for them. There's some stability, sure- but its the same as pointing to Obama and saying 'wow, what a great president' when structurally, nothing really changed and alot of the slow burning problems were just sugarcoated for someone else to solve.

Trudeau was the nail in the coffin and did the most damage, but Harper was almost like a placeholder. Better a placeholder than someone actively trying to destroy your nation, but its a big meh on the dude himself regardless.

The Canadian dollar was better than the US dollar for like 3 years, which also harmed our own export industry, but was great for middle class consumers for a bit- while the US recovered from the great recession with a vengeance. Its less like Harper did a good job, and more like the US really, really fucked up
 
harbringer883 said:
Its a pity Max doesn't actually try to campaign and put himself out there, we could really use the PPC in politics. Instead all he does is pop up a month or two before the election and then doesn't understand why he never gets a single seat.
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The sad part is that he was a conservative MP from 2006-2019, so he knew how to win and keep his seat for almost 15 years.
Mordecai 3 Finger Brown said:
I don't even like Poilievre, but his critics are demons.
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This was one of the deciding factors that made me vote for him in the spring tbh, were he to have won i would have been hearing nonstop bitching about how canada was sliding into fascism and I would've gotten immense satisfaction from hearing libshits cry the same way I did when trump won again
 
paddy_wagon said:
I personally don't even have that much resentment to immigrants, as for most of them this whole thing is a scam as I discover every time I strike it up with my uber drivers.
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100% at least if the uber driver is a nigger or an Arab I can talk about the Jews with them.

My company Christmas party was extremely shitty last year, especially since the highlight was vibing with my Nigger Uber driver on the drive home. After picking me up instead of turning around in the parking lot the nigger decided to drive through the first half of a Christmas lights drive thru display pathway. We got halfway through the display before one of the volunteers wanted payment, and then he decided to reverse through the Christmas lights pathway.

He was a hoot and hollering and I was dying of laughter for the entire half hour Uber ride home.
 
Sweetpeaa said:
They're not getting access to white woman very easily. There are incidents that happen and they do harass white women but most women they rape our their own. You should hear the stories out of Brampton. This should be a feminist issue but it's not. The media is radio silent on it. Most Indian women from India who come to Canada don't stick up for themselves. They are not like western women at all. They think of themselves as having no rights and they're door mats for the attacks. It's bad.
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My sympathy for white Canadian women will remain lacking until they quit being the biggest immigration stans and faghags.
 
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I got around to listening Jeremy MacKenzie on the Killstream earlier in the week. I can't be bothered to make a local archive because Rumble is a pain & the files end up too large.

I remain fascinated by the odd couple crossover. Apparently Rage got in under the wire before the Mexican powergrid said "Enough".

I believe this was in fact MacKenzie's 3rd Killstream appearance and 1st in some time. Ralph mentioned not having Rage on since at least Oct 7th, 2023 & the Israel-Palestine War and asked Jeremy his opinion.

Ralph also mentioned that Jeremy & his gf Morgan met Ralph in person in Mexico during their vacation in May 2025. Specifically in the context that they had discussed Mark Carney & his election win privately but not publicly together on air.

The first hour was MacKenzie updating Ralph on recent Canuck Clown World stuff like the Maritimes forest access ban, Carney's win, what a cuck Poilievre & the Conservatives are, etc. Ralph specifically asked MacKenzie about Jeff Evely, the former CAF soldier who purposefully asked the Department of Resources in NS to issue him a $28k fine on camera. I was surprised that Jeremy was so charitable with Evely, because I know he hates him. Ralph set him up to tear a strip off the guy, but MacKenzie was surprisinly magnanimous here.

Ralph actually had an impressive knowledge of Canadian lore. He referred to Jeremy's gf by name a few times. He knew who Rachel Wilson was. He specifically mentioned watching the edit of Diagolon's 2024 Road Rage Terror Tour. He knew that Donald Trump's stupid 51st state ragebait tweets essentially meddled with the Canadian election & gave Carney the win.

A notable side note was that MacKenzie mentioned personal dissatisfaction with his 2024 summer tour. He specifically noted he had no desire to do it again in the years to come. He talked about their biggest crowd being about 520 on their last Hamilton stop (where mayor Andrea Horwath forbade them). Jeremy talked about how he had a dream of being a comedian after he retired from the army & before he became an angry online political commentator. But it sounds like the little bit of touring they did last summer turned him off that life.

Ralph also knew about their Fight Club-esque Second Sons active club project. He brought it up unsolicitedly. MacKenzie remained pretty coy about it. He talked about not wanting to reveal much publicly at present. He said it was such a rousing success that they can't keep up with vetting new signups. He also hinted that there would be some new strategy enacted soon (this fall?) that would rustle some jimmies.

About an hour in, Ralph switched over to general influencer drama, namely the Fuentes/Carlson/Owens spat. MacKenzie wasn't well informed, so Ralph had to give him a quick rundown. Jeremy talked about not being interested in such American RW drama stuff, but mentioned that his gf Morgan did show him stuff from the OG Candace Owens/Nick Fuentes interview. Rage commented that he found Owens came off as "disingenuous".

Jeremy was surprisingly deferential to Fuentes, as I'm pretty sure both he & Ferryman hate the Catboi fuhrer. He seemed to be holding back some because he was unsure about Ethan's current relationship with Nick. Eventually, they joked about that openly. Ralph claimed that his Nick feud only lasted a few months years ago and that bygones be bygones even though they hadn't talked since. Ralph said Nick had praised him a few times over the years of his own show, which Ethan interpreted as burying the knife.

MacKenzie did seem to identify more with Fuentes in the Carlson/Owens dustup. He even made some analogies between his history & present situation & Nick's as persecuted pariahs in danger from the State.

Rage also did some of his infamous rants about how soft your average man has become whining online. Of note, he specifically mentioned that he personally knew of dissidents forming similar active club networks to his own & the recent neonazi-adjacent? march in Australia with hundreds of participants. He mentioned that Canada has no resources (either for the government or the dissidents) and said that the dissident movements in Canada are years behind places like Australia with their hundreds marching masked in black that years ago started as "3 guys" being chastised for trying to start a movement online.

One thing I noted was that MacKenzie specifically made a quip that fat, lazy, online US men that complained about the right "doing nothing" should go join Patriot Front as an example of a similar group to the Australians or his own Second Sons. I'm not sure Ralph's take, as he didn't comment specifically here, but MacKenzie & Ferryman's Toll have done a lot of work (at least in online Canadian spaces) to rehabilitate Patriot Front's image as an actual movement and not just some glowie honeypot photo-op. I'm not sure that's popular sentiment in the sektur, but Ralph didn't tip his hat here either way.

Rage went out on a similar speech about not being cowardly & getting out, finding yours friends & doing SOMETHING. Ralph ended the show on that note, saying that the speech didn't need comment, that he found it very powerful & thought MacKenzie was one of the most talented voices in this space.
 
foreman 89 said:
How so?
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Not OP, but essentially

- poor & declining election results
- allowing non-whites to run as candidates while pretending to against be mass immigration
- Max showing no signs of trying to grow the party, but rather using it as a paycheque and vanity project.
- After 3 elections, why hasn't he been able to recruit any other high profile dissident voices to the party to run as star candidates other than joke meme candidates like Viva Frei, Marc Emery the pot king and that American Meagan TERF chick that was on Rogan once (and didn't even return to her riding to campaign)?
- failing to run a full slate of candidates

I heard an interview with Daniel Tyrie, the guy promoting the Dominion Society project. Like someone pointed out on the thread, he used to be Executive Director of the PPC.

The host asked him about the internal workings of the PPC. He said the inside is a mess & he left because of internal conflicts with Max.

Max is apparently quite resistant to change. Tyrie felt the party had lost its way because it's all over the place chasing the culture war of the day instead of focusing on a few core issues.

The PPC also has no real party constitution. Tyrie talked about how Max rigs the leadership reviews by only allowing members to vote that were enrolled prior to the last election.
 
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Mordecai 3 Finger Brown said:
Not OP, but essentially

- poor & declining election results
- allowing non-whites to run as candidates while pretending to against be mass immigration
- Max showing no signs of trying to grow the party, but rather using it as a paycheque and vanity project.
- After 3 elections, why hasn't he been able to recruit any other high profile dissident voices to the party to run as star candidates other than joke meme candidates like Viva Frei, Marc Emery the pot king and that American Meagan TERF chick that was on Rogan once (and didn't even return from her riding to campaign)
- failing to run a full slate of candidates

I heard an interview with Daniel Tyrie, the guy promoting the Dominion Society project. Like someone pointed oit on the thread, he used to be Executive Director of the PPC.

The host asked him about the internal workings of the PPC. He said the inside is a mess & he left because of internal conflicts with Max.

Max is apparently quite resistant to change. Tyrie felt the party had lost its way because it's all over the place chasing the culture war of the day instead of focusing on a few core issues.

The PPC also has no real party constitution. Tyrie talked about how Max rigs the leadership reviews by only allowing members to vote that were enrolled prior to the last election.
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Just remember this when asking why the People's Party hasn't been successful:

Maxime Bernier was kicked out of the Conservative cabinet for violating the ethics charter of the Conservative Party and tried to force a leadership review to oust Stephen Harper over it, when there was enough evidence of his wrongdoing that there was no question he'd broken the rules regarding fundraising and influence peddling.

The PPC is nothing but a corrupt Quebec politician's extended temper tantrum and pursuit of an endless payday.
 
DiscoRodeo said:
There is no difference. I don't mean that in the edgelord 'all liberal democratic parties are the same'. I mean that in the sense of, if you hate Carney or Trudeau- PP comes from the same source of the rot.
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While I really was on the Pierre train back when the elections first started getting hyped up, in the end I'm weirdly satisfied that Carney got elected. While Pierre's initial suggestions seemed very preferable to what we had before, it still would have only would have prolonged the inevitable, and looking back on it now, yes, even as a conservative he's still pretty fucking lame and I don't think much would have changed other than the enshitification of Canada to slow down slightly. He's still a politician like everyone else, and what we need is something outside of a politician's hands at this point. Carney has a chance to completely accelerate the crash of our system into oblivion which will have a larger ripple effect than what a mediocre conservative might be able to perform. People, especially the younger generations, are learning to fucking hate the liberals because of all this, and it might serve our purpose better in the long run.
 
unholysedation777 said:
While I really was on the Pierre train back when the elections first started getting hyped up, in the end I'm weirdly satisfied that Carney got elected. While Pierre's initial suggestions seemed very preferable to what we had before, it still would have only would have prolonged the inevitable, and looking back on it now, yes, even as a conservative he's still pretty fucking lame and I don't think much would have changed other than the enshitification of Canada to slow down slightly. He's still a politician like everyone else, and what we need is something outside of a politician's hands at this point. Carney has a chance to completely accelerate the crash of our system into oblivion which will have a larger ripple effect than what a mediocre conservative might be able to perform. People, especially the younger generations, are learning to fucking hate the liberals because of all this, and it might serve our purpose better in the long run.
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I am loving how every new Carney policy pushes more people toward supporting Alberta independence.
 
How is that "stay in Canada" signature harvest going? I suspect that they are delaying the Alberta exit petition intentionally.
 
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