Canada is a failed state

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If the usa does annex all of canada, it basically would become one big puerto rico, with probably less autonomy. At the same time the only provinces the would be considered for statehood are the 4 western provinces (bc is not as likely but i could see it becoming a state simply to curb chinese influence there).
Most of Ontario voted blue you would just have to separate the northern Ontario Injun parts into their own territory.

Southwestern Ontario up to Kitchener and the coast of Lake Huron would be the State of Huron. (Unless we name it the State of Fitzgerald after the Edmund Fitzgerald)

Ottawa would become a capital territory like DC but instead of ghettos of niggers around the government offices it would be ghettos of Jeets.

The Golden Horseshoe from Niagara to Oshawa would become a city state territory (call it Niagara)

Rural Eastern Ontario would then become its own state lets call it Frontenac
 
Canadians are so God damn retarded, I can't.

First of all, Trump would have been more lenient to Canada if we didn't implement reciprocal tariffs.

The reason the American tariffs exists is because America needs to be able to compete with China in the mass production of warships, tanks, and aircrafts. No one can compete with China right now in wartime production.

The tariffs hurt us but long term it benefits Canada by preventing a Chinese domination on wartime production.

Second, Carney is the biggest liar of them all, he's promising to improve cost of living while maintaining high immigration rates. That's literally impossible. We do not have the productive capacity to build enough infrastructure to support our population growth. We need drastic and severe cuts to immigration.

Canadian voters, especially Boomers, voted in a way that is completely against our national interests, they just heard Carney pretending to be a patriot and then promised millions of houses.

Canadians by electing Liberals first just made it more difficult to convince Americans to be more lenient to us especially in wartime production, and second just doomed every young adult into never being able to afford to live.
 
Some thoughts after reviewing reactions to the latest happenings in Canada:

Some Canadians are talking about Alberta separating from Canada. Meanwhile, a number of Americans are saying they don't want any part of Canada (with a few making exceptions for Alberta) because they don't want the problems that come with it.

The USA has enjoyed having oceans between them an much of the world excepting Canada and Mexico. If Canada collapses and/or becomes compromised by other nations then the USA would be sharing a very large border with whatever horrible country Canada further degrades into. Also, while the USA seems to have an interest in Indian workers, they seem less inclined to want to share an extensive physical northern border with a soon-to-be India equivalent.

The USA already seems to be in the process of holding Canada to account for being a bad neighbor (mildly putting it), but Canada's ego and complacency in their "response" has been nothing short of alarming. Canada doesn't like being called out for making the mess they're in any more than the USA wants to clean it up and there isn't a resolution where there are only benefits (no matter what Trump posts on social media). Invasion, annexation, or just ignoring Canada all carry risk for both sides obviously.

It also seems a bit odd to think the USA can just choose one province within Canada to take and leave the rest alone given current circumstances. While Alberta joining the USA in some way might solve some of Alberta's problems with Canada, the USA somehow taking Alberta doesn't solve the problems the USA has with Canada as a whole since Canada is still a large landmass that can present a security risk (among other problems). Taking Canada piecemeal might be an option, but only taking Alberta would be odd.

Counterpoints are welcome. This is just how I see things right now.

TL/DR:
  • The USA ignoring the rot in Canada solves nothing and is more likely to create problems for both down the road.
  • Canada is incapable of self-correction so the USA is going to have to deal with Canada's problems the problem that is Canada at some point. It seems like the USA has already kicked things off via the tariffs and openly calling out Canada for being a bad neighbor in decline.
  • The USA just taking Alberta only really seems to solve Alberta's problem with Canada. Not that Alberta has nothing to bring to the table in joining the USA (they do), it just doesn't really solve problems the USA currently has with Canada in general. Taking Canada piecemeal might be an option, but only taking Alberta would be odd.
 
America can't fix Canada's rot because Canadians are retarded.

The first and proper response to the tariffs would have been to appease Americans and placate them to be more lenient with us.

Instead we implemented reciprocal tariffs.

And on top of that our immigratiom rate is absurdly high and mainly coming from undesirable places, basketcase dumps like India and Africa.

America cannot fix this rot. America has a safeguard with immigration through nationality caps, and America will never compromise in terms of wartime production, its a matter of life and death for America to be able to outproduce China.

When China can mass produce aircrafts, tanks, and ships at a rate higher than America, the West is screwed, if not already screwed.

The big problem lies in Canadians, they have no geopolitical comprehension beyond criticising every other country and relying on American military protection. They can't see the fucking forest for the trees. They just see Trump bad and they think Indian slop is delicious.
 
America can't fix Canada's rot because Canadians are retarded.

The first and proper response to the tariffs would have been to appease Americans and placate them to be more lenient with us.

Instead we implemented reciprocal tariffs.

And on top of that our immigratiom rate is absurdly high and mainly coming from undesirable places, basketcase dumps like India and Africa.

America cannot fix this rot. America has a safeguard with immigration through nationality caps, and America will never compromise in terms of wartime production, its a matter of life and death for America to be able to outproduce China.

When China can mass produce aircrafts, tanks, and ships at a rate higher than America, the West is screwed, if not already screwed.

The big problem lies in Canadians, they have no geopolitical comprehension beyond criticising every other country and relying on American military protection. They can't see the fucking forest for the trees. They just see Trump bad and they think Indian slop is delicious.
yeah, we are beyond fucked
 
it just doesn't really solve problems the USA currently has with Canada in general
There won't be a "Canada" if they take Alberta. Alberta, Saskatchewan and BC are the only things keeping this "country" afloat with Alberta doing the heavy lifting in that trio. Pulling it out would send the eastern provinces into an economic tailspin as the Atlantic provinces nosedive into poverty and Quebec starts bitching and moaning that its transfer payments (welfare) isn't arriving on time. Even Ontario would suffer from taking on the burden of having to provide for its parasitic neighbors. They'd beg for Saskatchewan and BC to bail them out but in that scenario I think Saskatchewan would join Alberta with BC being a toss-up. While I think most of the province would want to leave, the pakis/chinks/commies who make up the Vancouver area would fight tooth and nail to keep the gibs flowing.
 
yeah, we are beyond fucked

To be fair I did not fully understand the depth of the American tariffs beyond just economics. It is to secure American wartime supremacy against China. This isn't just some silly nonsense over Trump not liking Trudeau. China will be peerless if America cannot mass produce wartime equipment.

But I think anyone who had any sense over geopolitics would have understood that the most stable option for Canada would have been to be diplomatic with Washington D.C. rather than try to quote, hurt Americans, quote, because it would have placed us in a better position to work with the Americans regardless.

Now with the full understanding of America fighting for survival to outproduce China in a wartime scenario, Canada is absolutely screwed. Words have been said, and actions speak even louder than words, and it cannot be undone. Canada is a shameless chihuahua barking loudly while the USA is wrestling with China.
 
I am of the opinion that the incompetence of Pierre Poilievre and the Conservative Party was the main contributor to the Liberals' upset victory. Their entire platform was basically "get rid of Trudeau" and his infamous "carbon tax." When Trudeau resigned and the first thing his successor Mark Carney does is remove the carbon tax (archive), Poilievre and the Conservatives did not know how to maneuver around it as they had literally no other key position to rally around. When Trump did his "51st state rhetoric," Poilievre did not have a spine to counter it in a way to target the Liberals for making Canada so weak to face the United States. Ultimately, polling skyrocketed for Carney and the Liberals.

Pierre strikes me as a sort of faux-populist: never goes hard on his pro-Canadian positions and wanted to look as moderate and un-offensive as possible to appease every generation. His biggest detraction was that he still wanted to import 250,000 'jeets as permanent residents into Canada per year (in a decrease cope; archive) which dilutes the differences between him and Carney, making the Conservatives look like Blue Liberals (like the British Tories). Soon, the state-funded media like the CBC and other mainstream media ran article after article stating that Poilievre is some "MAGA ally" (archive) and will become the next "Trump" (archive) because Pierre used some Trump rhetoric like "Canada first," which does not bode well with the growing hatred against Trump among Canadians. Pierre was too weak to refute the accusations even though he is more left-wing than Trump is.

All these factors became Pierre's undoing because now he and the Conservatives are pretty seen as a slower status quo because they were all outmaneuvered by Carney. Carney picked the right time for an election where "Pierre = Trump" rhetoric was high and used it as an advantage. When the entire media and the establishment are against him, Pierre did nothing effective and Canadians saw him as "evil incarnate Drumpf" because he's right of Trudeau despite being a moderate left-winger and voted based on that. Pierre's appeasements failed as the boomers went heavily for the Liberals as they are wigger-retarded. Younger generations did not see Pierre as an effective person that will make change to a dead economy, monstrous housing crisis, and a destroyed healthcare system. Pierre and the Conservatives did not know how to maneuver around Carney's machinations when Carney portrayed himself as a moderate compared to Trudeau.

Because of how frightened the Conservative Party of being called "sexist," "racist," and "homophobic," they could not offer an effective alternative to the Liberals. Understandably, it is an extremely rough position that Pierre is in, and I get it, because all the cards were stacked against him. However, if you cannot whittle yourself out of that situation, what makes people think you can whittle out Canada out of its rock bottom situation that it is in? Trump used the media's attention on him and being called "sexist," "racist," and "homophobic" to his advantage that ultimately won him elections and now he is making the Republican Party, a party that originally despised him, obey his word and command as gospel to shape America as now recovering from its decline and decay.

Canada on the other hand? The nation is beholden to a man who wrote a political manifesto called Values: Building a Better World for All, which a conservative on Reddit summarizes that it is not moral values that Carney is talking about but how a human and his quality of life is worth so little when a state must be totalitarian to save the planet from climate change. In addition, Carney argues that humans are unable to understand this value and this value must be overseen by the state.

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Carney advocates in this text a totalitarian system of government in which each and every aspect of a persons life is controlled by powerful, centralized state authority, and to which all personal decisions are subject to ESG/DEI/Carbon Credit metrics. He explicitly advocates for a central bank digital currency linked to social credit scoring to facilitate this.

Carney explicitly states that a decrease in both the quality of life and the quantity of life (IE number of people, years of life lived) is acceptable in pursuit of this broader net-zero agenda, which is granted religious levels of latitude in how it can be imposed. It is effectively positioned as being the new state religion: literally everything in terms of public policy must revolve around achieving net-zero, including how individuals are permitted to invest and spend their own money.

Carney also explicitly states that the peoples of developed, advanced, first-world but carbon-intensive) countries like Canada should "look to the wisdom" of the most impoverished nations in the world when it comes to how they should expect to live under this regime, he explicitly cites Niger, the Central African Republic and similar countries as examples of the standard of living we should expect.

It is an argument for a return to feudalism, and a plan for how such a regime might viably be brought about.

Mark Carney is, in short, a viable candidate for being the literal fucking Antichrist if you believe in that sort of thing.

This subject was never discussed even once by the mainstream media in Canada during the 36 day election campaign, the shortest period permitted by law after he was installed in a Liberal Party leadership contest in which 89% of the vote was in his favour after 350,000 ballots were thrown out and his two anti-establishment challengers disqualified, the rules of which permit foreign citizens who affirm that they reside in Canada and children as young as 14 to cast a ballot. Ultimately roughly 150,000 internal party votes made him our Prime Minister after Justin Trudeau resigned. Mark Carney had never been elected to any previous office.
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And Pierre did not use this source of information against Carney at all.

This story reminds me of the 2020 Taiwan Presidential Election. Polls were favoring the pro-China Kuomintang because Tsai Ing-wen and her pro-Taiwan independence Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) were atrocious in managing Taiwan. Their candidate for president was Han Kuo-yu, who managed to become mayor of Kaohsiung, a DPP stronghold, and thus is seen as a force where many DPP votes would defect to the Kuomintang.

However, the worst event for the Kuomintang and Han had happened, when China introduced the Extradition Act in Hong Kong where criminals would be extradited from the city to the mainland, spawning protests and riots in the millions that China was breaching the one country-two systems again after the 2014 protests and riots. Panic ensued in Taiwan, and anger grew towards Han and the Kuomintang because they were the pro-China party and that Taiwan's sovereignty could be threatened by a Chinese invasion and that the concept of a one country-two systems was dead.

Han and the Kuomintang were utterly trashed in the election, with Tsai winning a landslide of 57% votes. Han was soon forced to step down as mayor of Kaohsiung. Currently, the Kuomintang is in an extremely awkward position where they are Taiwan's only conservative party but with emphasis that Taiwan is a part of China in an island where the Chinese Communist Party is heavily despised. As such, they had only been gaining ground in local elections.
 
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All these factors became Pierre's undoing because now he and the Conservatives are pretty seen as a slower status quo because they were all outmaneuvered by Carney.
I would argue that it wasn't so Carney outmaneuvering the Conservatives as it was the failings of the Canadian electorate. One painful lesson that I learned over the past five years is that a plurality of Canadians are lazy and apathetic to the point of willful ignorance because critical thinking is too much for their limited cognition. Poilievre put forth other policy planks like tax cuts and slashing red tape to kickstart resource development and create jobs. However, many libshit boomers don't care because they are A) mostly retired, and B) benefit from a broken system. Of course, they were going to rally behind Carney out of self-interest. "Orange Man bad" provided a convenient fig leaf for their unfettered greed.

Something to note is that Poilievre increased the voter share and the seat count. Meanwhile, the NDP imploded thanks to Jagmeet Singh's greed and ego while the Greens withdrew from several ridings to avoid vote-splitting. Additionally, the Conservative Party's message strongly resonated with the under 35 crowd. They are angry with the libshit Boomers and when you get a cohort of young men with no prospects and no escape, societal unrest follows.

It leaves me to wonder it Carney will put his foot on the gas when it comes to immigration and following through on the proposal to tax home equity. The former will further erode social cohesion and I doubt that the boomers that stood with him will stand to have their nest egg raided. I certainly hope that he has the sheer fucking hubris to do that. Given that Canada has no identity aside from anti-American chauvinism, it will be glorious to see it all crumble of the weight of the federal government's ineptitude.
 
I would argue that it wasn't so Carney outmaneuvering the Conservatives as it was the failings of the Canadian electorate. One painful lesson that I learned over the past five years is that a plurality of Canadians are lazy and apathetic to the point of willful ignorance because critical thinking is too much for their limited cognition. Poilievre put forth other policy planks like tax cuts and slashing red tape to kickstart resource development and create jobs. However, many libshit boomers don't care because they are A) mostly retired, and B) benefit from a broken system. Of course, they were going to rally behind Carney out of self-interest. "Orange Man bad" provided a convenient fig leaf for their unfettered greed.

Something to note is that Poilievre increased the voter share and the seat count. Meanwhile, the NDP imploded thanks to Jagmeet Singh's greed and ego while the Greens withdrew from several ridings to avoid vote-splitting. Additionally, the Conservative Party's message strongly resonated with the under 35 crowd. They are angry with the libshit Boomers and when you get a cohort of young men with no prospects and no escape, societal unrest follows.

It leaves me to wonder it Carney will put his foot on the gas when it comes to immigration and following through on the proposal to tax home equity. The former will further erode social cohesion and I doubt that the boomers that stood with him will stand to have their nest egg raided. I certainly hope that he has the sheer fucking hubris to do that. Given that Canada has no identity aside from anti-American chauvinism, it will be glorious to see it all crumble of the weight of the federal government's ineptitude.
The fall of canada will be glorious to observe.
 
we are being replaced
"Should have had more babies then!" - Retards who ignore economic and social conditions which punish whites nationwide and prevent us from succeeding or matching even a fraction of immigrants' "excellence" through no fault of our own. At what point can we all come together and admit that the current regime is hostile to our very existence? As white boomers cheer it on and sacrifice their children on the altar of ~diversity and inclusion~
 
"Should have had more babies then!" - Retards who ignore economic and social conditions which punish whites nationwide and prevent us from succeeding or matching even a fraction of immigrants' "excellence" through no fault of our own. At what point can we all come together and admit that the current regime is hostile to our very existence? As white boomers cheer it on and sacrifice their children on the altar of ~diversity and inclusion~
Its a ticking time bomb really, and I am all for the day that that bomb explodes.
 
Since the liberals won, we're going to annex your country. You won't become a state, nor will you be able to vote in our elections. Basically, you and your fellow Canadians will work for us. We will take your resources, and follow our laws.

When we knock on your door, you let us in. We OWN that fucking door.

You try to stop us? We'll knock that fucker down.
Look I fully believe that the American government should foment dissent in Canada and secretly arm and fund right wingers to take over the country's middle provinces and make Alberta 3 states 2 red states and one blue state. Calgary metro area should be blue and pozzed.
So, how long do you guys give it before being patriotic is racist again?
The moment the right in Canada started to use the flag as a patriot system.
 
At what point can we all come together and admit that the current regime is hostile to our very existence? As white boomers cheer it on and sacrifice their children on the altar of ~diversity and inclusion~
Boomers are one of the most narcissistic generations to exist. Their only concern is themselves and no one else. Before the Second World War, the term "teenager" didn't exist. However, after the war, it was invented to keep children in this new invention called school longer Back then, when you hit 14, you were sent to the farms to work and find a job; you were considered an adult.

That's why teenagers are often associated with "It's not a phase!"; their bodies mentally crave challenges and want to rise above. However, they are being cradled like children in the most critical years of development.

As a result, there is an entire generation of people who are treated like children during their most critical years. Fostering manchildren, I remember this story from my history teacher. He said that his parents were full-blown hippies as Vietnam raged on, but the second the war was over, they cleaned up their act and went to living out the American dream.

Liberalism was appealing to them because it was precisely the opposite of the nuclear family. They wanted to prove their parents wrong so badly; however, because they were cradled like children, they thought of solutions in the most black-and-white way possible, and as a result, to them, the Liberals would always be the heroic underdogs, no matter how much they control media, and the conservatives always an evil controlling force.

They want to be treated as adults but still be allowed to act like children, completely naive and oblivious to the world around them. They don't possess the same maturity as their parents because they never suffered. They cannot possess any true compassion because there was never a moment in their youth that they had truly suffered in life. When there were inconveniences, they had their parents to fall back on for emotional support. Compare that to their parents' childhoods, where all hopes and dreams were crushed as anyone who wasn't the elite suffered during the Great Depression. After the Second World War, their parents wanted to do everything to ensure their children would not suffer as them. However, they couldn't have foreseen the consequences. To be fair, who could have at the time?

This is even more prevalent in Canada, which hasn't joined Vietnam and has become a popular location for American men seeking not to serve their dues; this heightened the sense of grandeur those boomers got back when they were young Canucks.

And the Boomers have never grown out of that mindset, which is why they mass-voted for Carney despite him being the exact figure they would have despised in their youth. To the boomers, America has once again become that nation during Vietnam, and Carney would be here to "help" Canada prove itself once again against the much more "corrupt" America.
 
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