Canada is a failed state

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Turkey Beef said:
Orange Man will utterly obliterate "Canada" and then some. He has zero reason to entertain this toddler gibberish about "Canada" being the "USA's second closest ally" or whatever is the latest shitlib talking point is.
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This is something I've been wondering: have Canadians played themselves? I don't believe that Trump is a complete idiot. He has probably realized that Canadians have built little infrastructure and kneecapped resource development in the last decade. Similarly I reckon that he knows that Canadians have reinvested little in their own businesses and instead put that investment in a real estate bubble. That gives the United States a competitive advantage over Canada thus is in Trump's best interests that Carney is Prime Minister because he will he accelerate Trudeau's policies to weaken Canada's economic standing in future negotiations.

I Hate The Disabled said:
Since the liberals won, we're going to annex your country. You won't become a state, nor will you be able to vote in our elections. Basically, you and your fellow Canadians will work for us. We will take your resources, and follow our laws.

When we knock on your door, you let us in. We OWN that fucking door.

You try to stop us? We'll knock that fucker down.
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Your terms are acceptable.
 
Jetpack Himmler said:
This is something I've been wondering: have Canadians played themselves? I don't believe that Trump is a complete idiot. He has probably realized that Canadians have built little infrastructure and kneecapped resource development in the last decade. Similarly I reckon that he knows that Canadians have reinvested little in their own businesses and instead put that investment in a real estate bubble. That gives the United States a competitive advantage over Canada thus is in Trump's best interests that Carney is Prime Minister because he will he accelerate Trudeau's policies to weaken Canada's economic standing in future negotiations.
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When it all started coming up again last Friday, and Trump getting asked about it. I figured it was the Liberal's internal polling was not good and it was an attempt to drum up more votes. I figure Trump is in on it anyway. He was promised the moon if the Liberal's win. Which is what I suspect was said at the dinner he had with Trudeau, and the phonecall he had with Carney.

Which is ironic for the boomers, that they voted for El Naranja's preferred choice in PM.
 
Turkey Beef said:
Not-so-bold-predictions: Leafs, and especially the boomers, are going to be bullycided everywhere harder than ever.

Subscribing to neoliberalism is cancerous enough as it is, and then doing social signalling and moral grandstanding over it all the time is about as subhuman behavior as it gets. That's pretty much what "Canadian nationalism" is, and normal people around the globe see it for what it truly is, and no amount of legacy media propaganda can disguise that.

Orange Man will utterly obliterate "Canada" and then some. He has zero reason to entertain this toddler gibberish about "Canada" being the "USA's second closest ally" or whatever is the latest shitlib talking point is.

The youth in "Canada" did their part, and the boomers fucked them over. There will be an unprecedented brain drain to end all brain drains. It can be assumed the majority of the youngsters who voted are center-right, and I wouldn't be surprised if the US government wants to entice them to come over and replace the squatamalan gangbangers that are being deported.
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I wish the US would ease restrictions for people born in Canada to emigrate to the States. I'd have left long ago.
 
Every under 30 year old at the moment needs to think about a carousel platform for next election.
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Turkey Beef said:
The youth in "Canada" did their part, and the boomers fucked them over. There will be an unprecedented brain drain to end all brain drains. It can be assumed the majority of the youngsters who voted are center-right, and I wouldn't be surprised if the US government wants to entice them to come over and replace the squatamalan gangbangers that are being deported.
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This is unironically the best way for Trump to get Canada. If he opens up immigration for skilled tradesmen and gives concessions to make it easier for Canadian citizens under 35 to make it to the States, Canada will die overnight. A large part of our brain drain problem and stagnation is due to competent degree holders moving to the US at the first opportunity (just look at our medical system). If the same happens to the trades, the economy and all infrastructure ceases to exist as well.
 
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GhaeicSD said:
This is unironically the best way for Trump to get Canada. If he opens up immigration for skilled tradesmen and gives concessions to make it easier for Canadian citizens under 35 to make it to the States, Canada will die overnight. A large part of our brain drain problem and stagnation is due to competent degree holders moving to the US at the first opportunity (just look at our medical system). If the same happens to the trades, the economy and all infrastructure ceases to exist as well.
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All America needs to do to interest young Canadians is by advertising cheap housing/property, stable well paying jobs and and low crime rates in it's communities. America has actually made an effort to deport criminals and Canada has imported criminals while tying the hands of the police and it's citizens preventing them from fighting crime and protecting themselves and property.

I was looking at Montana a while ago and while it is more expensive due to it being rural, it's still cheaper than pretty much all of Canada.
 
I Hate The Disabled said:
Since the liberals won, we're going to annex your country. You won't become a state, nor will you be able to vote in our elections. Basically, you and your fellow Canadians will work for us. We will take your resources, and follow our laws.

When we knock on your door, you let us in. We OWN that fucking door.

You try to stop us? We'll knock that fucker down.
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Your terms are acceptable
 
Just Another Anon said:
All America needs to do to interest young Canadians is by advertising cheap housing/property, stable well paying jobs and and low crime rates in it's communities
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Many young Canadians are poor as fuck so they might need a system to help them get citizenship find housing while they work to self sufficiency.
 
GhaeicSD said:
This is unironically the best way for Trump to get Canada. If he opens up immigration for skilled tradesmen and gives concessions to make it easier for Canadian citizens under 35 to make it to the States, Canada will die overnight. A large part of our brain drain problem and stagnation is due to competent degree holders moving to the US at the first opportunity (just look at our medical system). If the same happens to the trades, the economy and all infrastructure ceases to exist as well.
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Unless the criteria was explicitly racial Canada would become a waystation for jeets &c. flooding into the US. They wouldn't mind the crumbling infrastructure because it can't get worse than the home country. We could persist on the track of pretending that Indian tribes are sovereign nations and use it to justify the feds completely abandoning the north to them, and the golden horseshoe could turn into a rainy Dubai with the Laurentians lording it over a transient serf class.
 
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Turkey Beef said:
Not-so-bold-predictions: Leafs, and especially the boomers, are going to be bullycided everywhere harder than ever.

Subscribing to neoliberalism is cancerous enough as it is, and then doing social signalling and moral grandstanding over it all the time is about as subhuman behavior as it gets. That's pretty much what "Canadian nationalism" is, and normal people around the globe see it for what it truly is, and no amount of legacy media propaganda can disguise that.

Orange Man will utterly obliterate "Canada" and then some. He has zero reason to entertain this toddler gibberish about "Canada" being the "USA's second closest ally" or whatever is the latest shitlib talking point is.

The youth in "Canada" did their part, and the boomers fucked them over. There will be an unprecedented brain drain to end all brain drains. It can be assumed the majority of the youngsters who voted are center-right, and I wouldn't be surprised if the US government wants to entice them to come over and replace the squatamalan gangbangers that are being deported.
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Highly doubt Trump is a faggot who would rather take in Jeets than young White Canadians
GhaeicSD said:
This is unironically the best way for Trump to get Canada. If he opens up immigration for skilled tradesmen and gives concessions to make it easier for Canadian citizens under 35 to make it to the States, Canada will die overnight. A large part of our brain drain problem and stagnation is due to competent degree holders moving to the US at the first opportunity (just look at our medical system). If the same happens to the trades, the economy and all infrastructure ceases to exist as well.
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Lmao you really think trump is going to allow Canadian trades workers into the US. Nah the onshoring Trump is doing will only bring in Jeets and Haitians to work on those factories
Just Another Anon said:
All America needs to do to interest young Canadians is by advertising cheap housing/property, stable well paying jobs and and low crime rates in it's communities. America has actually made an effort to deport criminals and Canada has imported criminals while tying the hands of the police and it's citizens preventing them from fighting crime and protecting themselves and property.

I was looking at Montana a while ago and while it is more expensive due to it being rural, it's still cheaper than pretty much all of Canada.
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Once again good luck getting any of those jobs unless you already work for a global homo corporations and they approve your transfer request. Likely not because they would once again… “Prefer to hire Jeets”
 
Jetpack Himmler said:
This is something I've been wondering: have Canadians played themselves? I don't believe that Trump is a complete idiot. He has probably realized that Canadians have built little infrastructure and kneecapped resource development in the last decade. Similarly I reckon that he knows that Canadians have reinvested little in their own businesses and instead put that investment in a real estate bubble. That gives the United States a competitive advantage over Canada thus is in Trump's best interests that Carney is Prime Minister because he will he accelerate Trudeau's policies to weaken Canada's economic standing in future negotiations.


Your terms are acceptable.
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Both kind of did.

As people pointed out earlier, whats likely to happen is that after the election, whomever is in charge will tone down the saber rattling a bit, and seek out a deal/try to salvage whatever economy they can with Trump.

Not going to get into too many details there, but Trump is also backing out of a lot of the tariffs, and fucked around with too many countries, is trying to restabalize relations with Beijing (and failing), the bond market is tanking, etc.

Whats likely to happen here is Carney and Trump will meet, will met out some trade deal, both will portray it as a 'win!' for their respective nations, and a big nothingburger will happen. Canada might actually lose out a bit, but not entirely- you may have some auto jobs remaining or moving further south of the border, and the downward trend towards our literal southern neighbor will continue. Perhaps Trump will actually "win" on a few fronts, and there will be even more lowered trade barriers. Don't forget that with the USD lower, this actually might just entice manufacturing companies on the fence prior to move south.

On the Canadian side, you could hope that a more stable trade relationship with the US, a more sober looking leader globally (cough, to the globalists), and the right kind of PR could also boost the Canadian dollar (thus weakening out own manufacturing, ironically). I'm hoping for this, as I've been living outside of Canada since the vaccine was rolled out (saw a lot of writing on the wall, left far earlier than most I guess), and would love to trade my CAD out for something more stable.

For actual structural stuff- give it up with Carney. There's basically zero way that hes getting manufacturing back in the nation. If you think the US is fucked there (seriously, who expects the average American to be competing with China level wages making iphones in a sweatshop, unless youre Elon Musk)- its even worse in Canada. You add the taxes, the lack of infrastructure, the lost generation, and there just isn't an economy to create. My guess is that he will further financialize the Canadian economy, we might have short term gains (if all goes well) and then expect Canada to wind up like how he ran England. A smouldering ruin of a casino where some people got rich, its mega islamified, and most got fucked. Whats different I guess is we have already had a decade of being fucked, and the Indians.

Don't forget as well, that we have a massive housing bubble, that in many ways our current housing bubble is worse than the US's in 07, and that is due to pop sooner or later. When it does, a lot of our 'perceived wealth' will be gone with it. While it would fuck the economy, I actually somewhat cheer it on, because its the literal only way any millennial will ever have a house, be able to afford renting again- and after this election, noone should like the boomers or have literally any sympathy for them any longer. If your parents bought their home 10 or 20 years ago- theyll hopefully be fine as long as theyre not refinancing it. A home is a home, and allowing our housing market to get financialized was an utter mistake.

Whats actually going to happen next is that any young people with sense who have made it are probably going to be looking at what happened, and leaving the country. Brain drain is going to be real over the next few decades, as if nothing is fixed, and it won't be, its like living in a sinking ship. Remember- the average income is below Missouri, with the cost of living being higher than California, and the tax rate being akin to Scandinavia. If youre anyone lucky enough to have a career, you are either long going or going to get going.

Expect more of a competency crisis, expect more band-aid solutions, more Indians, and greater social unrest. God help Canadians I guess.
 
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Stop with the critical thinking disco, read the room. Now is the time for larpers to bend over and beg to be raped by the US on the Chris Chan forum.
 
DiscoRodeo said:
Don't forget as well, that we have a massive housing bubble, that in many ways our current housing bubble is worse than the US's in 07, and that is due to pop sooner or later.
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I would rather the housing bubble pop under Carney than Poilievre because he would bear the brunt of the public's ire.
 
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