Canada is a failed state

[Martin Serious]

Canada is a completely different country than it was 10 years ago. It went from a great country down to a great shithole. I've spent the last 11 months studying Spanish so hopefully it'll pay off since some cities in Mexico are a reasonable choice. Sure the locals there think things are getting expensive but to truly grasp the severity of the economic problems in Canada should really make them think they've got it so good compared to us. Most Canadians have become economically trapped and the cost of living continues to skyrocket. Getting a Job in Canada is completely out of the window due to the combinations of lacking wages and demands for prior job experiences for entry level jobs. I have this sense that I would freeze to death if I don't leave within the next few months as costs continue to skyrocket.

I already got my Pesos and I am going to attempt to leave this shithole in one months time. I'm hoping to achieve my dreams of becoming an Interpreter with the languages I am learning. But yeah. I hate Canada's cold weather as well.

Do you have friends in Mexico already?
Crazy how Mexico is actually somewhat trying to fix it's crime problem. Who knew Mexico would become a better country than Canada? I have my sights set on buying a house in Guam with my savings and just doing my job remote or starting a business on that side of the world as I mentioned before my friend moved to Thailand and is saving $30k a year not living in Canada.
What countries are you guys thinking of moving to, to avoid collapse?
I remember watching a video where a guy compared Legacy countries to drinking coke because it's the default option when choosing where to live but now some people are choosing to move to places like Malaysia and Mexico.

 

[Breadquanda.]

I have my sights set on buying a house in Guam

I hope you enjoy spiders.

What countries are you guys thinking of moving to, to avoid collapse?

The countries I am a citizen of are all, seemingly, in much the same position as each other, which is very annoying and inconvenient and leads me to be very insecure about where I should be. My mother doesn't think it is as bad as in Canada, and would like to leave, but I really think she is wrong and it seems futile to me.

I desperately wanted to move to Norway when I was 17, and it probably would have led to a much better position for me, unfortunately, especially given that Norway has become a little cheaper (in relative terms) recently, whereas Canada is getting startlingly expensive. I doubt that is really an option now, and wouldn't know where to start.

I considered moving to Belarus for a while too, and studying in Minsk. I don't really remember why. It wasn't a 'based Russia' thing, or anything like that. I just was very fascinated with Belarus for a long time, and Minsk seems nice. This is not really an option anymore, as we know.

Anywhere else... I have no idea. I have a friend who moved to Taiwan from Australia, but I don't know much about it, and it seems like it would be difficult without his academic credentials. He previously lived in Turkey for a while and highly recommended it in terms of cost of living and the relative quality of life (just not Ankara, because it is apparently godawful to navigate as their public transit sucks). He also went around the Caucasus and said that Georgia was decent (obviously it is a bit unstable now, and don't even try to get into Abkhazia anymore unless you are Russian), but Armenia was very expensive and cut off, due to having to export most things through Russia. Transnistria is apparently a great place to visit, because of how cheap it is, and how much you get for your money, but good luck trying to stay there for any length.

Albania and Croatia seem like nice places to go, although Albania is iffy infrastructure-wise and Croatia is probably expensive now that tourism there is so common. I think Singapore seems nice, but I can't imagine it is too much cheaper there than in the West. I've also considered maybe studying in South Africa (glorious Stellenbosch), but it just seems to dangerous and awful these days. I don't even know if I should study anywhere, really.

Anyone else?

 

[CowBoyCormack]

american industry doesn't exist and almost all of it is just made overseas.

american businesses aren't well run either, they just get to free ride off the USD as the world's reserve currency

deregulation has a point, but usually that will just end up being canadians will be on the business end of american extractive industries.

they key phrasing is 'run better'

american industry doesn't exist

I get it, but you hear of job booms in Alabama, job booms in New Mexico, Colorado, factories opening up again in the US, and I want some of that here. We really don't have that, and even being part of the 50 states without internal investment barriers, you're getting that.

but usually that will just end up being canadians will be on the business end of american extractive industries

Thats kind of my point. Thats largely the old argument, but at this point, seems the better option than being on the business end of Brazilian extractive industries (Timmy's is owned by Brazilians), staffed by Indians, and financed by Chinese investors. You get my point there. If Canadian industries were actually hiring Canadians and benefiting Canadians, you might have an argument for corporate protectionism; but they're really not.

 

[macrodegenerate]

american industry doesn't exist and almost all of it is just made overseas.

Wrong. Unbelievably wrong. The vast majority of infrastructure manufacturing is done by American companies. Who do you think builds buildings or make manhole covers? It's American companies. American manufacturing is alive and well for parts that matter and require longevity. Cheap consumer shit comes from China, the machines used to run industry and large enterprises: Tractors, Trucks, Filters, Planes, etc are made in America. We aren't even getting into ductwork or furnaces or water heaters. The things that run your house. Or windows which are cut to spec.

If you think American manufacturing is dead. Just look at all of the buildings or fixtures that make up American cities and roads. The wood benches or metal bus stop outdoor enclosures or stationary chairs or street lamps. Most of them were made in America.

 

[Betonhaus]

Not to mention Oil and agriculture are still big businesses.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Fully agreed, I think I remember reading somewhere in this thread of someone who breaks down the parliament speeches, which would be a nice entry point. Or maybe I'm retarted.

The colloquial terms of "Legalese" has been driving me bonkers lately, I feel as if all government/political work is designed too be as dry as possible to discourage those who get bored easy or haven't "practiced the art of reading dry-shit". Pair that with the instant gratification loop most lay-men are dealing with and it's a travesty.

Quick edit: yes I know I'm retarted, I'm Canadian.

One thing that needs to happen in any kind of reform is that laws need to be written on a 1 page summary (max).

No one got time to read hundreds of PDF pages of unnecessary pork barrel spending

 

[kim foxx]

The vast majority of infrastructure manufacturing is done by American companies. Who do you think builds buildings or make manhole covers? It's American companies. American manufacturing is alive and well for parts that matter and require longevity.

lmfao no. america makes as much steel today as it did in 1980, with a fraction of the workforce.

Cheap consumer shit comes from China, the machines used to run industry

capital good imports from china exceeded domestic production in 2022:

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

Do you have friends in Mexico already?
Crazy how Mexico is actually somewhat trying to fix it's crime problem. Who knew Mexico would become a better country than Canada? I have my sights set on buying a house in Guam with my savings and just doing my job remote or starting a business on that side of the world as I mentioned before my friend moved to Thailand and is saving $30k a year not living in Canada.
What countries are you guys thinking of moving to, to avoid collapse?
I remember watching a video where a guy compared Legacy countries to drinking coke because it's the default option when choosing where to live but now some people are choosing to move to places like Malaysia and Mexico.

Most of my friends in Mexico are in Puerto Vallarta and Manzanillo with one of my relatives living south of Guadalajara. My best guess is if I stay out of Canada. I'd most likely live either in Puerto Vallarta or Manzanillo (or places around it). They're quite beautiful places actually. I talked with my mother about this and even she is kinda thinking the same with the economic situation in Canada. Mazatlan is also a fine option but Tepic and Guadalajara are kind dangerous and Culiacan is just out of the question for me.

 

[gobbos]

Most of my friends in Mexico are in Puerto Vallarta and Manzanillo with one of my relatives living south of Guadalajara. My best guess is if I stay out of Canada. I'd most likely live either in Puerto Vallarta or Manzanillo (or places around it). They're quite beautiful places actually. I talked with my mother about this and even she is kinda thinking the same with the economic situation in Canada. Mazatlan is also a fine option but Tepic and Guadalajara are kind dangerous and Culiacan is just out of the question for me.

I know a guy in Merida looking for Tin Shackmates

 

[Jar-Jar Fanboy]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=QoEP1vKgj6M
Literal 1984 shit

The fact that there are financial consequences for not wanting to celebrate homosexuality month is fucked up. A "human rights tribunal" found them guilty? I didn't realize it was a right to force everyone to celebrate the alphabet community. Whose rights were violated, exactly? The town council and mayor should've told them to fuck off, and refused to pay it, and refused to go to the "retraining" which I assume is just watching gay porn on a loop. I live in fucking clown country, I swear to God. Becoming the 51st state is looking better by the minute

 

[kickingstones]

If Canada ever does join the US it needs to become a territory first so that Canadians can learn what it means to be American.

 

[King Metalia]

If Canada ever does join the US it needs to become a territory first so that Canadians can learn what it means to be American.

I'd settle for American overthrowing the current Canadian government and installing a pro America/Capitalist leader.

 

[Betonhaus]

If Canada ever does join the US it needs to become a territory first so that Canadians can learn what it means to be American.

Do it in stages.
Stage 1. US takes full control over border control and immigration
Stage 2: begin adapting tax code and government programs to comply with the US version
Stage 3: complete a census and begin issuing american IDs for people who were born in Canada and have lived in Canada for over a decade
Stage 4: begin expelling people who don't meet the immigration standards, or throw them in jail until they are deemed acceptable
Stage 5: gradually loosen travel restrictions and border control between the Canadian territories and the mainland.

 

[Baraka Obama]

I really don't get the "move to mexico" idea.

If you boil it down what is different in my life vs 10 years ago (aside from having 5 more children)?

1. There are a lot more ugly people at the grocery store
2. I don't feel safe going downtown any more

Mexicans are some of the ugliest people I have ever personally encountered with the lowest tier culture and personality. The country is notorious for massive gangs that behead and murder large numbers of people.

How is that an improvement?

 

[Betonhaus]

How is that an improvement?

Housing is cheap
Doctors are cheap
Food is cheap
Drugs are cheap
Climate is nice and warm

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

I really don't get the "move to mexico" idea.

If you boil it down what is different in my life vs 10 years ago (aside from having 5 more children)?

1. There are a lot more ugly people at the grocery store
2. I don't feel safe going downtown any more

Mexicans are some of the ugliest people I have ever personally encountered with the lowest tier culture and personality. The country is notorious for massive gangs that behead and murder large numbers of people.

How is that an improvement?

First of all, are you confusing Mexicans for poojeets, they have the worst culture. Mexico's culture is great compared to them. Second of all, many cities in Mexico are safe (Merida, Puerto Vallarta, etc.) While others are dangerous (Culiacan, Celaya, etc). It's not all shithole warfare. Also, I don't remember Mexicans being that ugly. I get some of them look like that but not all of them. Plus, Canada is extremely depressing compared to Mexico.

 

[Lord Xenu]

I watched this documentary a few days ago. I thought that this thread may find it interesting. It's well made, although a mite dry.

Description: The story of multiculturalism in Canada, long believed to be a foundational mythology, is in reality a relatively recent political movement, one that occurred against the clear and explicit wishes of the Canadian public throughout the 20th century. “Paving Over the Public” documents the clandestine schemes and political machinations that subverted Canadian identity contrasted against opinion polls and the lies public officials were forced to tell to cover up the truth.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Good, the Traitor Politicians should feel scared. Especially since they all refuse to release the names of the known traitors in Parliament.

Since they all refuse to release the names of the traitors, then defacto they are all Traitors and deserve to be hung.

Edit: Also I hope those Faggot law enforcement officers / private security mercenaries enjoy their cushy pensions while they still have them.

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

I watched this documentary a few days ago.

The narrator of the mass immigration doc is Dimes/@LegallyIronic

He's the main host on the Blood Satellite podcast.

It was recommended to me by someone here on KF who I believe has since been banned.

His podcast is hard to describe. It's probably the most cerebral podcast I listen to. He's a voracious reader and frequently reviews the premise of books on air. He also has lots of guests I've never heard of, some Old Glory Club types like The Prudentialist and some more known alt-right ones like Diagolon's Jeremy MacKenzie.

He lived at one point in the Toronto area, has a background in marketing and has a young child. He also is a recovered alcoholic.

His co-host is Judas, who is the quieter and perhaps more radical half. Judas is Canadian as well and I believe has returned. But at one point he was living in Hong Kong running a furniture factory. Judas seems less committed to the podcast as he's never on the interview shows and it seems as though it's Dimes who is always networking and guesting elsewhere.

A "human rights tribunal" found them guilty? I didn't realize it was a right to force everyone to celebrate the alphabet community. Whose rights were violated, exactly?

Apologies for the doublepost.

The Ontario Human Rights Tribunal 15k fine for Emo, ON is another example of how much of a cuck Doug Ford is.

He's held absolute power for two terms now and hasn't done a single fucking conservative thing & is obsessed with tinkering with retail politics alcohol BS.

-He was awful on COVID.
-He was awful on the convoy.
-He sucks up to Trudeau & Freeland constantly.
-He inexplicably allowed a NDP radical to write his Education Ministry's new troon & DEI policy which was going to codify all the "equity" into law. And give school board tyrants the ability to fine parents 200$ for every wrongthink (the bill thankfully died before Final Reading prior to the 2022 election).

If Ford had an actual right-wing bone in his body, he'd take the axe to the commie HRT kangaroo courts.

 

[Lord Xenu]

He's the main host on the Blood Satellite podcast.

Nice. They have RSS feed too. Thanks for the tip.

He sucks up to Trudeau & Freeland constantly.

He's in lock step with them. Nothing he does is a departure. He wants the same policies and benefits from the same grafts. He's grown fat under their regime, he won't do anything to upset the status quo.

Also, remember when $1/bottle beer was one of his campaign promises? Fuck that guy.