Canada is a failed state

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Canada is hellbent on propping up unproductive portions of society in every facet of life despite having the greatest advantage out of ANY nations.

Canada for one doesn't have to spend a single cent on military.

They can buffer ALL immigration and screen them like no tomorrow because USA takes in every single dirt imaginable from south. east and west are covered by Pacific and Atlantic ocean.

Limitless amount of resources coast to coast. Pipeline access to China and USA. Incredible amount of agricultural capacity. Plenty of fresh water.

In reality, Canada allows unfiltered migrations. Anybody with a pulse can claim asylum and receive free shit. Dirt bags with first grade education can immigrate freely. Middle class Mexicans can enter Canada through airport and immediately register for refugee status on arrival. Canada is also a hub for pajeets and Nigerians to enter cross the border and enter USA.

Essentially everything you make is now taxed. Carbon tax. Capital gains tax. Income tax. Hst. Pst. GST. Nearly half of your capitals gains are now taxed. Provinces do not have FREE TRADE POLICY and every single one of them have different jurisdiction, duties and tariffs. And of course, the productive surplus from your provinces get transfered to bailout Quebecers who are not even french.

We are not even touching indigenous money laundering scheme in hundreds of billions to chiefs and corrupt politicians.

Our so called "prestigious" educational institutions are also worthless. Most of our best and the brightest are taken away by Americans or even Australians. Most of them earn upwards of 300-500k. In Canada, at best, they can earn 200k. We basically spend trillions educating our youth and lose the best to the world because quality of life is so shit and unproductive.
 
HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS said:
Our so called "prestigious" educational institutions are also worthless. Most of our best and the brightest are taken away by Americans or even Australians. Most of them earn upwards of 300-500k. In Canada, at best, they can earn 200k. We basically spend trillions educating our youth and lose the best to the world because quality of life is so shit and unproductive.
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We've listed off a ton of reasons in this thread for why living in Canada is a fool's errand nowadays unless you're a subhuman grifter leeching off of useful people. Is there ANY reason that a normal, productive person would want to stay in Canada at all? All I'm coming up with is family and friends. Wisconsin, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, and a few other states closely approximate Canada (and its pre-pajeet culture) enough to make moving a seamless transition if you can get a green card/marry an American.
 
DiscoRodeo said:
There's like 10 Franco-Albertans, they can fuck off and learn English.

If its Ontarois, or people from Acadia, I get it because theres much more sizable communities, especially in the north of Ontario- but no, franco-albertans basically do not exist.
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I looked it up on Wikipedia and there are >86,000 people who speak French as their mother tongue in the whole of Alberta. This out of a population of nearly 5 million so it's basically catering to %0.02 of the population. You might had well give government services in Mandarin, Arabic, Urdu, or other languages too. English is the language of commerce because of the historical influence of the British Empire and later the United States of America so there is more of a practical reason to learn it. By that same coin, French had long been the language of diplomacy from the 16th to 19th centuries when it was the leading European power until English overtook it. Had France been as serious as Britain in creating settler colonies, then it's possible we'd be speaking French now. One has to remember that the thirteen colonies were more populous than the whole of New France.

It's frankly amazing how insecure and insular the Quebecois mindset is. Look to Louisiana where cajun culture has thrived despite having linguistically assimilated into the broader "anglo" American culture.
 
Audit said:
We've listed off a ton of reasons in this thread for why living in Canada is a fool's errand nowadays unless you're a subhuman grifter leeching off of useful people. Is there ANY reason that a normal, productive person would want to stay in Canada at all? All I'm coming up with is family and friends. Wisconsin, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, and a few other states closely approximate Canada (and its pre-pajeet culture) enough to make moving a seamless transition if you can get a green card/marry an American.
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I am married to an American citizen, so we could move.

But we genuinely love where we are and our tiny community and being deeply rooted in the land where my great great grandparents homesteaded. I also have elderly relatives who can’t move.

There isn’t anything actively pulling us to the states. We both make good money and are not sure if we could transfer our specialized skills to the US.

For now, we may be stupid to stay but we still have non-economic ties here, and we don’t have anything in the US.

We have contingency plans though. It will probably come to it.
 
LeCoq said:
Firstly, a rights-based system serves to protect minorities. As an exemple, freedom of speech serves technically to protect maginalized speech. Nobody want a tyranny of the masses. The real question is "should it be a right?" For me, it is a about blood and soil: so, it should be a right. I would be agree the extent the same courtesy to first nations.

Secondly, Alberta is province of also franco-albertans, but they are forced to learn english.

Thridly, how bilingualism block the majority to work for their own governance? Just learn french. English is already 40 % french words. Most melanined gentlemmen in Africa speak three languages without any education. Are anglos stupidier and lazier than africans? Seriously, I find it hard to excuse anglos when even in Quebec most of them are unilingual. Also, New-Brunswick is like 40 % french for your information.

Speaking of, fourthly, yes, the same courtesy is in fact extended in Québec even if they don't need any protection. Anglos in Québec have some of the best universities in the world, they overly represented in the elits and mist of them live their entire life without saying a word in french. They are welcomed by the infamous in Quebec's politics "Bonjour-Hi." Like in Alberta, British Columbia, and Manitoba, they have their own schools and their own educations system.
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As Disco said, why should Alberta bend over for a tiny minority of French speakers?
Turkey Beef said:
I personally don't have much sympathy for Quebec. People don't seem to realize Quebec not being as 'diversified' as the rest of Canada has nothing to do with language or other policies. Franco-Quebeckers in the modern age are quite literally menchildren/womenchildren, that in itself is pretty obvious with how they act hyper-emotional like battered wives everywhere they go, whether its IRL or on the internet. As for the reasons, they love acting uppity and smug over "muh nationalism" even when, as others have pointed out, their province is the most welfare-dependent of all of Canada.
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Their fate is the same as the rest of English Canada. They will be assimilated by our mass immigration of jeets and other cultures who have no respect for Quebec or Canada culture. Quebec is below replacement level just like Canada, and their premier Legault likes talking on both sides of his mouths. The big business lobby really wants jeets and the elderly to work (to make them easy money).

I'm surprised nobody is mentioning how territorial and racist Quebeckers are outside of metropolitan areas. All the jeets and migrants go to Montreal, and outside of the city, there is a profound disdain for anything not white, French, and with religion. Few years ago some loser white guy shot up some muslims. The local muslims decided they wanted a muslim cemetary, the municipality and people adjacent to the project said fuck no, and big city mayors/politicians tried to shame that community: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/muslims-react-cemetery-vote-1.4208144 .

Quebec not being diversified has to do with language 100%. You do not operate outside of Montreal and perhaps Quebec City without French.
 
Tachibana said:
Quebec not being diversified has to do with language 100%. You do not operate outside of Montreal and perhaps Quebec City without French.
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I was thinking about this exact thing a few weeks ago. Unfortunately for the Frenchies, many countries in Africa are French speaking. I predict Quebec will be heavily negrified in the coming years.

Perhaps, in typical Quebec fashion, they will be the ones to start the mass revolt against all this bullshit. A man can dream :|
 
Baraka Obama said:
It's mainly africans and haitians, so worse.
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It's far less worst than jeets due to volume.

Quebec wants French speaking immigrants, Haiti has 5-15% of its population (of 11 million) that can speak French, and there are about 165 million Africans who speak French.

Streetshitter land has a population of 1400 million people and they make the bulk of registered immigration. I am sure they are far more represented in unrecorded immigration.

100 jeets are probably of lower skill, and harder to manage than 10 africans. Those 100 jeets will most likely ghettorize.
 
Tachibana said:
there are about 165 million Africans who speak French.

Streetshitter land has a population of 1400 million people
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French is the dominant language of business in most of Africa the same way English is the dominant language of business in India. Only about 10% of Indians speak English.

The scale of immigration from India is higher today. However, given rising living standards in India and explosive population growth in Africa that will change.

And by worse I meant in every way but numbers.
 
Lei Wulong's Left Leg said:
Before I left BC, the government of Vancouver was fighting tooth-and-nail to get rid of tent cities. I imagine the same will happen out in 'berta. Makes me glad I'm in the middle of nowhere, with potential to get even deeper into the middle of nowhere. Hell, I'll go into Manitoba if I need to.
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My man I live in the mid kootenays and the jeets and homeless are infesting my town. Nowhere is fucking safe.
LeCoq said:
I appreciate the fact you preface by saying it is maybe a east/west thing, but you are simply wrong. I think that is shows how much anglos live in a bubble to say so.

Bilinguism as a policy does not exist only for pratical reason: it is also to protect the historical french communities (e.g. franco-albertan, franco-manitoban) present in all provinces except maybe British columbia before the anglos communities, and repair the damage already done to them by provincial governements who passed force assimilation policies.
If in Alberta and Manitoba the frenchs are a minority, it is because of tentatives of cultural genocide. By the way, as an Acadian, it is why I appreciate the fact that Québec is still part of Canada: it would much harder to fight for blinguism without their demographic weight.

As for J.J. statements, it's called populism. Now I know that, no gonna lie, I have an even worst opinion of him.

Finally, if we think about the same interviews, Trudeau said the best president were Québecois. We share the same distain for Trudeau (He is not even a real french, he is like 1/4 french), but it is clearly not what he said.
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Once Quebec abandoned being Catholic they became commies instead. Your province has nothing to offer this country and all your policies are shit.

Reminder that when you wanted your 'based separatism' you still wanted western provinces to front you equalization payments.
 
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Lei Wulong's Left Leg said:
Before I left BC, the government of Vancouver was fighting tooth-and-nail to get rid of tent cities. I imagine the same will happen out in 'berta. Makes me glad I'm in the middle of nowhere, with potential to get even deeper into the middle of nowhere. Hell, I'll go into Manitoba if I need to.
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TBH Alberta doesn't have quite the same issue, as the weather is rather volatile. We literally had snow a couple days ago, and the winters are outright cold. The tent cities die off every winter so we don't get compound growth.
 
LeCoq said:
By the way, as an Acadian, it is why I appreciate the fact that Québec is still part of Canada: it would much harder to fight for blinguism without their demographic weight.
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Thanks for reminding us all why we were 100% correct in rounding up and shipping your whiny asses down to Louisiana and back to France. Your people lost many times, be thankful we didn't finish the job when we easily could have. Oooooo you make noise on Tintamarre, only a French puss could think that's intimidating
 
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Flan Handler said:
Why should anyone in Alberta or Saskatchewan need to learn French to work as a bureaucrat in their own province?

No offence intended, I don’t want the francos genocided or anything, but like every other minority, they need to preserve their own culture.

The bilingualism policy effectively blocks the majority from working for their own governance, outside of Quebec.

The same courtesy is not extended to the Anglos in Quebec.
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jumpin jahosafat on a pogo stick u city slickers got more issues than a news stand
 
LeCoq said:
I appreciate the fact you preface by saying it is maybe a east/west thing, but you are simply wrong. I think that is shows how much anglos live in a bubble to say so.

Bilinguism as a policy does not exist only for pratical reason: it is also to protect the historical french communities (e.g. franco-albertan, franco-manitoban) present in all provinces except maybe British columbia before the anglos communities, and repair the damage already done to them by provincial governements who passed force assimilation policies.
If in Alberta and Manitoba the frenchs are a minority, it is because of tentatives of cultural genocide. By the way, as an Acadian, it is why I appreciate the fact that Québec is still part of Canada: it would much harder to fight for blinguism without their demographic weight.

As for J.J. statements, it's called populism. Now I know that, no gonna lie, I have an even worst opinion of him.

Finally, if we think about the same interviews, Trudeau said the best president were Québecois. We share the same distain for Trudeau (He is not even a real french, he is like 1/4 french), but it is clearly not what he said.
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Suck a dick. You are not french. Also, fuck you leeches.
 
Audit said:
We've listed off a ton of reasons in this thread for why living in Canada is a fool's errand nowadays unless you're a subhuman grifter leeching off of useful people. Is there ANY reason that a normal, productive person would want to stay in Canada at all? All I'm coming up with is family and friends. Wisconsin, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, and a few other states closely approximate Canada (and its pre-pajeet culture) enough to make moving a seamless transition if you can get a green card/marry an American.
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The thing is good luck getting on there when tech and finance jobs in those states would rather hire Pajeets.

In essence we are stuck on this sinking ship and we have to outlast it.
 
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