Canada is a failed state

[harbringer883]

literal globalist WEF climate zealot

Well in all fairness those ghouls are just oligarchs seeking means to control humanity. I think their just shocked that some human cattle actually believe their shit.

 

[King Metalia]

Well in all fairness those ghouls are just oligarchs seeking means to control humanity. I think their just shocked that some human cattle actually believe their shit.

I would be happy if oligarchs got exposed as part of the left to the whole world. Mainly because it would finally shut up the liberals who insist our world is controlled by a cabal of conservatives.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

100%, I understand why the Cons wouldn't do it during the elections, since Canadians are super emotionally driven, and hell, even many of the people who hate the amount of immigrants would probably have thought "PPants want to deport people like the orange man." They definitely should do it now, especially since it's clear now Carney is definitely not going to reduce it.

Funny thing is that I'm pretty sure that Sweden called Denmark fascists back in 2015 for tightening borders, but now you can clearly see the difference between the two.

Japan is NOT a left-wing country btw, the Liberal Democratic Party is (at least on paper) a right-wing conservative party, though there are leftists in the party, like the former PM that wanted 500k south asian immigrants. I understand the confusion since "liberalism" in a Canadian setting exclusively means left-wing, no matter what NDPtards say about how "carney is a PC!" I do agree about the whole nationalism part, and with japan it's pretty prevalent among most of the parties in some way.

Canada isn't a left wing country. And the NDP isn't a workers party anymore.

Canadians have pet causes that they pretend to care about just like Americans but the empathy is highly selective and even performative.

It's all an illusion though. I would say most Canadians are probably greedier than Americans but won't ever admit to it.

Canada is Dubai 2 North in terms of its labour policies. Just look up the similarities. Human Rights violations through the roof.

Canada is definitely an old boys club as well. Contrary to the narrative women actually do better in the U.S than anywhere in Canada. The U.S excluding some of the conservative states is the real feminist success story in terms of the number of female CEO's, Business owners. Women are doing really bad in Canada by comparison but are completely in denial about it.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Stellantis is leaving because owning a business in Canada is not profitable anymore. Between the anti-competition laws favouring the local mafia, the huge layers of red tape and the onerous levels of environmental obligations why would anyone open a company in Canada?

Stellantis and the other big auto manufacturers literally are part of that mafia. Which is why they managed to shake down so much money for the battery plants from Trudeau, Doug Ford and now Carney (We're the marks he's the Carney).

 

[karaokeman]

At this point I'll openly admit Canada needs a White supremacist ruling class.

The Canadian ruling class are just a bunch of multicultural champagne socialists.

If the Canadian ruling class was actually White supremacist we'd actually be more selective with immigration and prioritise cultural and ethnic similarity.

We can have diversity, of different Europeans, and the non-Whites who are compatible with us.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

Canada isn't a left wing country. And the NDP isn't a workers party anymore.

Canadians have pet causes that they pretend to care about just like Americans but the empathy is highly selective and even performative.

It's all an illusion though. I would say most Canadians are probably greedier than Americans but won't ever admit to it.

Canada is Dubai 2 North in terms of its labour policies. Just look up the similarities. Human Rights violations through the roof.

Canada is definitely an old boys club as well. Contrary to the narrative women actually do better in the U.S than anywhere in Canada. The U.S excluding some of the conservative states is the real feminist success story in terms of the number of female CEO's, Business owners. Women are doing really bad in Canada by comparison but are completely in denial about it.

I wouldn't say Canadians in general are greedy, else wise they would actually try to make real money or build real businesses rather then just coast along on what's already been there for decades.

I'd say the average Canadian is both lazy and unaware. Canada has the lowest productivity per worker in the G7 and most Canadians are fine with anything Ottawa does just as long as it doesn't upset their apple cart. They hate the status quo but are unwilling to do anything about it, they fear the future but refused to think about it nor acknowledge their part in creating it.

Canada deserves to be a satrap of the US, in fact we'd be better off as one then under the current Canadian elites who have shown themselves to be practically useless except when it comes to fleecing the tax-payer.

 

[WanderingWalker]

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The liberals really are the just pedophile-protector party at this point, Jesus Christ


Iirc there's actually a recent clip from one lf the HOC sessions just a few days back that involved Marc Miller & crew accidentally voting through a motion about revisiting using the notwithstanding clause to undo that whole 'removing mandatory minimum sentences for pedos' SCC ruling which lead to them them getting notably upset over after realizing

 

[Sweetpeaa]

I wouldn't say Canadians in general are greedy, else wise they would actually try to make real money or build real businesses rather then just coast along on what's already been there for decades.

I'd say the average Canadian is both lazy and unaware. Canada has the lowest productivity per worker in the G7 and most Canadians are fine with anything Ottawa does just as long as it doesn't upset their apple cart. They hate the status quo but are unwilling to do anything about it, they fear the future but refused to think about it nor acknowledge their part in creating it.

Canada deserves to be a satrap of the US, in fact we'd be better off as one then under the current Canadian elites who have shown themselves to be practically useless except when it comes to fleecing the tax-payer.

The obsession with REITs support of LMIAs is the ultimate greed. That's upper middle class Canadians for you. But

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The liberals really are the just pedophile-protector party at this point, Jesus Christ


Iirc there's actually a recent clip from one lf the HOC sessions just a few days back that involved Marc Miller & crew accidentally voting through a motion about revisiting using the notwithstanding clause to undo that whole 'removing mandatory minimum sentences for pedos' SCC ruling which lead to them them getting notably upset over after realizing

Oh man, the Paul Martin era was so much worse. Age of consent was 14 years of age. A girl in my grade who was mixed race, overweight and chesty and had a really bad self esteem presumably had 30 year old boyfriend. We were all 14. I saw her one day smoking outside waiting to be picked up on a Friday from school by him and they drove off in his car. People were hilariously apathetic, even the teachers.

That age of consent law was supposed to have a provision where 14 was of age but the person they had sex with has to be only so many years older them but no one gave a shit really.

 

[WanderingWalker]

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Mate, I don't know if you read all of that second case, but this dude literally isn't even a Canadian citizen.

We straight up have knowingly allowed in multiple serial-pedos at this point, in this case in particular according to other information I've found on it he's apparently fathered at least 13 other kids, & our judges have consistently been refusing to deport them.

How many of those kids mighta came about from similar situations as this? I can't say exactly, but regardless the fact that we haven't immediately deported this piece of shit is such a blatant display of the rapid third worldification our country has been undergoing since Tardo was in power

 

[kawaiikat420]

China finally decides it's going to make a move on Taiwan.

The joke of it all is that China will never make a move on Taiwan. It really is just a scare-tactic used by Western and Japanese politicians and media conglomerates to push local issues into the shadows.

I've noticed that a lot of Westerners don't realize how much propaganda they swallow everyday. It's easy for a person to look at North Korean media, for example, and say: "Ah, how easily the people are fooled! This propaganda is so hammed up, how do the people buy it?" but those same people will turn around and absorb local propaganda without even realizing it.

If it was 90s Canada or earlier Canada could have likely held off like Ukraine is holding off Russia (at least for the moment) and put up a heroic defense even if we would eventually lose.

I really doubt this. Canada has a different geography from Ukraine, and a different population density pattern too. Ukraine is able to stave off Russia because the shared border is a relatively small percentage of Ukraine's border, and the population density is evenly spread out across the country.

In Canada, the populated regions loosely form a long continuous line, and that line follows the southern border. According to Stats Canada, about 66% of the Canadian population lives within 100km from the border.

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If we look at the population density of Canada and the USA, you can really see the difference. Now, one could argue that it's not a fair comparison because the smallest units of this map (the counties or parishes or census divisions) are a lot bigger in most of Canada than they are in the USA, but then you can look at the actual numbers of it all and it makes more sense. The eastern portion of the USA (I'm counting the traditional eastern seaboard) has a population of 120 million people, and central and eastern Canada has a population of about 25 million people. So for every 24 people in the eastern seaboard of the USA, there's only 5 people in central and eastern Canada.

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I like the map above because I think it really highlights the reality of the situation. Canada's entire population density is screwed beyond belief. This is why the government can seem unfair to certain people. The Golden Horseshoe and the St. Laurence corridor (so aptly named Laurentia ITT) has double the population as the western provinces, so why should the federal government care about what goes on outside of Laurentia? Why should the federal government care about creating policies that negatively affect those in Atlantic Canada or Western Canada when all they need to secure the vote is the Laurentian's support? The government doesn't actually exist to serve the people, that's only the explicit purpose. The implicit purpose of the government is to serve itself. All political parties understand this, and so they work towards furthering their own aims (i.e., staying in power because power means money).

We can actually see a microcosm of the Western-Eastern split in Ontario itself, where Northern Ontario is basically a wasteland and the majority of government funding in Ontario goes toward the Golden Horseshoe. The question is still the same: why should the Ontarian government spend so much money on such a sparsely populated area instead of focusing on the immediate well-being of the largest population centres? It's why at its core, democracy on such a large scale, such as in Canada, doesn't work.

I think that democracy works best when the country is geographically small, shares the same timezone throughout, exhibits the same type of ecosystem and climate in each corner, and shows only small cultural differences between regions. The material and cultural conditions of the Atlantic provinces are too different from Laurentia, and those are too different from the Western provinces, and those are too different from the territories. People that spout endlessly about "Canadian nationalism" are in denial about this simple fact: there cannot be nationalism when there is only a farce of a nation.

Canada's biggest problem has always been the brain drain.

I'm a highly-educated professional. When I lived in Canada, I couldn't afford to live alone, I had to go to the food bank every month, and I was bleeding money without trying. I had no chance to save anything, or move up in life, and I felt completely powerless and exhausted. After leaving Canada, I can afford a two-bedroom apartment on my own, I can go out to eat dinner everyday with friends, I can go out on the weekends to clubs and lounges, I can afford to travel a few times a year, and I live a perfectly normal middle-class lifestyle. The difference is crazy, especially considering the fact that my job title never changed, only the location changed!

Evidently, many of my peers and friends from university realized the same thing that I did. Most of the people I know from university don't live in Canada anymore. Why would I want to live in a place like Canada, anyway? What is the "pull factor?" A lonely life? Bad weather? Rude, ignorant, distant people? Poverty? Decaying infrastructure? Corrupt government?

 

[Koby_Fish]

News is saying he quit specifically because the Memorandum of Understanding signed with Alberta walks back a whole bunch of his environmental policies.

like I said, fake-out. Gayboh would quit the entire parliament not just cabinet. It walks NOTHING back, because Carny has NO intention of following through - hell, it JACKS UP the carbon tax. Gayboh is either playing a role to trick everyone or he's too stupid to realize Carny is playing 4-D chess.

BC certainly isn't happy that their tanker ban is under threat and another pipeline project is on the menu, but west is the easier direction to go as it's much less opposition.

Joke's on them; none of this is happening, Carny is a double-crossing backstabbing bitch giving false hope to Alberta.

Stellantis is leaving because owning a business in Canada is not profitable anymore. Between the anti-competition laws favouring the local mafia, the huge layers of red tape and the onerous levels of environmental obligations why would anyone open a company in Canada?

the problem here is Stellantis was bribed as was Volkswagen with gazillions of taxpayer dollars.

Oh man, the Paul Martin era was so much worse. Age of consent was 14 years of age. A girl in my grade who was mixed race, overweight and chesty and had a really bad self esteem presumably had 30 year old boyfriend. We were all 14. I saw her one day smoking outside waiting to be picked up on a Friday from school by him and they drove off in his car. People were hilariously apathetic, even the teachers.

That age of consent law was supposed to have a provision where 14 was of age but the person they had sex with has to be only so many years older them but no one gave a shit really.

the NDP threw a fit when the Conservatives raised it to 16. They had the nerve to cry that this was discriminatory towards LGBTWTFBBQ+- kids.

I'm a highly-educated professional. When I lived in Canada, I couldn't afford to live alone, I had to go to the food bank every month, and I was bleeding money without trying. I had no chance to save anything, or move up in life, and I felt completely powerless and exhausted. After leaving Canada, I can afford a two-bedroom apartment on my own, I can go out to eat dinner everyday with friends, I can go out on the weekends to clubs and lounges, I can afford to travel a few times a year, and I live a perfectly normal middle-class lifestyle. The difference is crazy, especially considering the fact that my job title never changed, only the location changed!

holy shit what kind of garbage wages were you getting in Canada?!

 

[kawaiikat420]

holy shit what kind of garbage wages were you getting in Canada?!

It's not so much the wages as it is the COL. I don't think Canadians realize how expensive everything is there compared to other places in the world. I can go and eat a full delicious meal here for less than CA$5. My monthly rent is less than CA$200, and I'm the first tenant in a newly constructed building. Subway tickets cost CA$0.20, and the subway has 150+ stops.

I recently wanted to buy a desk organizer. I looked up options on the web and I saw one from an office retailer located in Canada that was priced at something like CA$120. I took a picture of it and searched for it on a major retail site here, and the exact same model was selling for something like CA$7. So the Canadian pricing was more than 10x the pricing I was looking at, for the exact same model, produced by the exact same company. It's like that for everything.

 

[Koby_Fish]

It's not so much the wages as it is the COL. I don't think Canadians realize how expensive everything is there compared to other places in the world. I can go and eat a full delicious meal here for less than CA$5. My monthly rent is less than CA$200, and I'm the first tenant in a newly constructed building. Subway tickets cost CA$0.20, and the subway has 150+ stops.

I recently wanted to buy a desk organizer. I looked up options on the web and I saw one from an office retailer located in Canada that was priced at something like CA$120. I took a picture of it and searched for it on a major retail site here, and the exact same model was selling for something like CA$7. So the Canadian pricing was more than 10x the pricing I was looking at, for the exact same model, produced by the exact same company. It's like that for everything.

being a Leaf, I know shit's expensive, but I thought USA was catching up with us on that.

 

[kawaiikat420]

being a Leaf, I know shit's expensive, but I thought USA was catching up with us on that.

Perhaps, but I'm not familiar with US prices.

 

[BulkForceFive]

The question is still the same: why should the Ontarian government spend so much money on such a sparsely populated area instead of focusing on the immediate well-being of the largest population centres?

This is actually a fairly widespread talking point ("land doesn't vote, people do") and the actual retort to it is that people in bughives do not produce what a country needs to survive.

Along that strip of land from Hamilton to Kingston there is very little productive industry left, and although the economic activity there has a huge dollar value, it has minimal real-world value. Toronto bankers and app developers and hedge-fund managers and media moguls do not keep the country running. There is no great attraction for people to store and play with their money in Toronto over NYC, London, Singapore or any other actual real country's Finance Zone.

Also I don't really care if it's smoke and mirrors, watching that faggot Guilbeaut sulk away from Parliament is cathartic as fuck.

 

[Goofy Logic]

Also I don't really care if it's smoke and mirrors, watching that faggot Guilbeaut sulk away from Parliament is cathartic as fuck.

I dont really think it is smoke from him. The asshole is salty that the new liberal leadership is changing his policies that he no longer has control over. His only option in protest, since he was now a "minister of identity" or whatever, was to resign from cabinet and flounce for all its worth.

He was a Trudeau lackey, so he's naturally not happy with the direction of Carney's leadership.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

I dont really think it is smoke from him. The asshole is salty that the new liberal leadership is changing his policies that he no longer has control over. His only option in protest, since he was now a "minister of identity" or whatever, was to resign from cabinet and flounce for all its worth.

He was a Trudeau lackey, so he's naturally not happy with the direction of Carney's leadership.

Isn’t Guilbeut only the second member of Trudeau’s cabinet gone?

The first being Chrystia Freeland.

Carney promoted that Pajeeta bitch Anita Anand to be foreign affairs (instead of the French Cutie Melanie Joie)

 

[WanderingWalker]

Gayboh is either playing a role to trick everyone or he's too stupid to realize Carny is playing 4-D chess.

He just qualified for his pension very recently iirc right?

I figured he was just pulling a Jeetshit

 

[Campbell_Trio]

Alberta has been pretty angry with the Federal government, so I think this is throwing a bone to them so they temper the thought of separation

Separation isnt happening so it's more like Smith doing a lot of talk about how bad the carney libs are doing only to immediately play ball once a vaguely good sounding idea comes along.
Like there is still no word on the removal of an emissions cap but sure no cap on production, might as well tell me i have no cap on making bread but a cap on flour.

Several Liberal cabinet members are already threatening to resign over the deal,which by the way was the smaller, most minor thing Smith asked for.

They threaten to resign over every little thing, first it was the lack of mentions related to greenhouse gases in the budget and now it's them intentionally trying to divide the country when that should be the conservatives job.

 

[kawaiikat420]

Separation isnt happening

Crushing the dreams of millions of brave inbred Khalistani patriots with those words.