Can oligarchy, autocracy or anarchy work?

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I just feel frustrated by democracy since all the time, the incompetent are ones the getting elected, so was wondering maybe the other ruling (or lack thereof) systems can work. I don't know much about politics, but I do have a will to study
 
What's unrealistic about it? I don't get it

First I'll start by saying I agree with @Eric Blair's Footnote to an extent, as long as you're looking for answers and seeking understanding. Being idealistic doesn't become a problem until you decide to start ignoring uncomfortable truths in order to maintain an idealistic fiction.

But basically I'll give you a few things to consider form your text blob earlier in the thread when I asked what you expect from a system of government:

That most people will have a way to get a sustainable life (food, water, residence and the rest is left for more advanced countries which includes things like electricity for example)

I'm not sure what you mean by "the rest is left for more advanced countries", but if you're saying some places don't get fancy things like electricity then you've already got a problem. Why would anybody on the short end of the stick agree to that? People want what others have (this is one of those pesky human nature things I mentioned). Also, no electricity means no economic growth so those unfortunates are then stuck in a cycle of minimum subsistence.

working a job that has acceptable conditions (the hours are worth the salary, not over a certain amount of hours unless there's extra payment

Large segments of the population don't want to work, so their "acceptable conditions" is sitting at home doing nothing. What is your plan for them, and more importantly, how do you keep the people that are working from getting pissed at these human leaches?

(the hours are worth the salary, not over a certain amount of hours unless there's extra payment

This is completely subjective so you'll never get everyone to agree on what "worth the salary" means. So who determines that?

no crimes committed at work (or at the very least that there will be a way to figure out if a crime has been committed at the workplace)

This is already the case, right?

that products, goods, services, commodity, raw materials and so on will be at a reasonable price for their value and usage

How is that "reasonable price" actually determined since you can't get people to ever agree on what that is?

That there's at least certain amount of freedom while not too much since you gotta prevent crimes from happening.

Again, this is vague and undefined and nobody agree on what that "certain amount of freedom" means.

So basically, I think the idealism comes from the vague wishy-washy language you use to convey positive thoughts and ideas, while ignoring fundamental realities of human nature. The world doesn't work that way because humans don't work that way.
 
@Unarmed Gunman I agree with you, I unfortunately have written it very vauge. So the yearly salary of any job should be equal to the price of the cheapest public residence without roommates or more. That will encourage people to work since they can be guaranteed to be able to move from their parents home, even though it's not necessarily gonna be the ideal residence, although it's better than nothing
Also I meant that electricity and education should be the next step. You first have to focus on food, water and residence

As for the rest I got no idea
 
good evening sirs, place wise priesthood in charge, wise brahmins from india have made it a spiritual paradise
 
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