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Can Humanities Survive the Budget Cuts?​

The state auditor of Mississippi recently released an eight-page report suggesting that the state should invest more in college degree programs that could “improve the value they provide to both taxpayers and graduates.”

That means state appropriations should focus more on engineering and business programs, said Shad White, the auditor, and less on liberal arts majors like anthropology, women’s studies and German language and literature.

Those graduates not only learn less, White said, but they are also less likely to stay in Mississippi. More than 60% of anthropology graduates leave to find work, he said.

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“If I were advising my kids, I would say first and foremost, you have to find a degree program that combines your passion with some sort of practical skill that the world actually needs,” White said in an interview. (He has three small children, far from college age.)

For years, economists and more than a few worried parents have argued over whether a liberal arts degree is worth the price. The debate now seems to be over, and the answer is “no.”

Not only are public officials, such as White, questioning state support for the humanities, a growing number of universities, often aided by outside consultants, are now putting many cherished departments — art history, American studies — on the chopping block. They say they are facing headwinds, including students who are fleeing to majors more closely aligned to employment.

West Virginia University recently sent layoff notices to 76 people, including 32 tenured faculty members, as part of its decision to cut 28 academic programs — many in areas such as languages, landscape architecture and the arts.

Several other public institutions have announced or proposed cuts to programs, largely in the humanities, including the University of Alaska, Eastern Kentucky University, North Dakota State University, Iowa State University and the University of Kansas, according to The Hechinger Report, an education journal.

Miami University, a public institution in Oxford, Ohio, with 20,000 students, is reappraising 18 undergraduate majors, each of which has fewer than 35 students enrolled, including French and German, American studies, art history, classical studies and religion.

Those departments are dwarfed by computer science, which has 600 students enrolled; finance, with 1,400; marketing, with 1,200; and nursing, with almost 700.

For the humanities faculty, “it’s an existential crisis,” Elizabeth Reitz Mullenix, provost of Miami University, said in an interview. “There’s so much pressure about return on investment.”

She said she hoped the subject matter, if not the majors, could be salvaged, perhaps by creating more interdisciplinary programs, like cybersecurity and philosophy.

The shift has been happening over decades. In 1970, education and combined social sciences and history degrees were the most popular majors, according to federal statistics.

Today, the most popular degree is business, at 19% of all bachelor’s degrees, while social sciences trail far behind at just 8% of degrees.

Many courses on the endangered list are also dissonant with an expanding conservative political agenda. And many public universities are loath to invite further scrutiny of their already stagnant state subsidies.

At Miami University, degrees on the chopping block include critical race and ethnic studies, social justice studies and women’s, gender and sexuality studies.

White, the Republican state auditor, said his first question was whether state spending on degree programs matched the needs of the economy. But he said that he also wanted to know, “Are we paying or using taxpayer money to fund programs that teach the professor’s ideology, and not just a set of skills on how to approach problems in the world?”

Liberal arts professors are trying to defend themselves, using arguments tailored to an economy that is rapidly shifting — while also appealing to a more august vision of life’s possibilities.

In a recent YouTube video — bluntly titled “Is a Humanities Degree Worth It?” — Jeffrey Cohen, the dean of the humanities at Arizona State University, defends his domain as a pathway toward not just a job but a lifetime of career reinvention.

“Our students are living in a time when the career that they’ve trained for is not likely to be the career that they’re going to be following 10 years later,” Cohen says. Studying the humanities, he argues, will teach them how to be nimble.

In a recent panel discussion in New York City, sponsored by Plough, a quarterly Christian-oriented magazine, Roosevelt Montás, a senior lecturer in American studies and English at Columbia University, suggested that universities should push back against a strictly careerist view of education.

“It’s not true that all students want from a college is the job,” he said. They are hungry for an education that “transforms them, an education that addresses their entire selves, not just a bank account.”

But that argument seems to be faltering almost everywhere.

Harvard, which has an endowment of more than $50 billion, formed a strategic planning committee to look at humanities education. One idea, a university spokesperson said, would consolidate three language majors into one super major: languages, literatures and cultures.

There is also collateral damage. In early October, Gettysburg College shut down The Gettysburg Review. In its heyday, the magazine, founded in 1988, published writers such as E.L. Doctorow, Joyce Carol Oates and Rita Dove. More recently, it has prided itself on publishing up-and-coming writers.

The editors of the magazine, Lauren Hohle and Mark Drew, were caught off guard when the college provost told them they were being fired.

“She said we’re not serving the core mission of the college,” Drew recalled. “I was going to say, ‘What is the core mission?’ I thought this was a liberal arts institution. But I was trying not to be snarky.”

To Drew, the Review, with about 1,100 paying subscribers, was a symbol to the outside world of the college’s commitment to the humanities. But to the university’s president, Robert Iuliano, the Review was a money pit that might have bolstered the college’s reputation among the literati, but at a cost to the student body.

The magazine earned about $30,000 to $40,000 a year in subscription revenue, “and the operating cost is something like five times more than that,” he said.

“We have been really thinking hard about what it means to prepare students for today’s world,” he said, “because you know, it’s changing with such rapidity.” That means, he added, offering courses that could be twinned with “hands-on experiential opportunities.”

White, the Mississippi state auditor, majored in political science and economics at the University of Mississippi before becoming a Rhodes scholar and a graduate of Harvard Law School — a fine example, perhaps, of the value of the liberal arts.

But if he could do it over again, he might switch majors, he said, because “political science majors don’t command a high salary.” Working on a campaign or in government might be more valuable experience than the degree, he said.

White said he personally would have liked to play acoustic guitar for a living. But he doubted his chances for success, given the small number of jobs available.

Then he seemed to reconsider, conceding: “If you dig into the data, music majors do pretty well for whatever reason. They go to work at schools, they go to work at the university setting, or they work in churches.”

So on reflection, he softened his message. “What I would tell students is, don’t write off all of liberal arts,” he said. “Don’t write off all of the fine arts.”

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We need to save the humanities, to a certain degree. We need art, history, and music. But over the years we've seen a lot of fragmentation in the humanities, and here's where cuts can be made. Back to basics, back to the core, leaving a precise definition to others. My degrees are not in the humanities, yet I took some humanities courses. Allowed me to appreciate certain things seen and heard.
 
The shift has been happening over decades. In 1970, education and combined social sciences and history degrees were the most popular majors, according to federal statistics.
My dad went to college in the late 60's/early 70's. He always told me the education majors were the party degree. They out-drank and out-drugged even the theater and arts majors.
 
Can't fix the humanities til they crash and burn completely. Have to run out all the rats currently occupying tenure track positions who created the disastrous situation the humanities find themselves in. Bulldoze the humanities departments, fire everyone, and rebuild from whatever stock is worth rehiring. It'll be a painful process and star bucks and Barne & Nobles will be insufferable for a few years with the sudden influx of former professors working part time jobs in the only positions they're qualified for now.
 
including students who are fleeing to majors more closely aligned to employment.
I can't help but quote this little gem of language, there's no reason to gild this lilly and yet there they are :story:
In 1970, education and combined social sciences and history degrees were the most popular majors, according to federal statistics.
Given how things have turned out and the trend towards erasing history (ironic), I'm somehow not shocked by this.
Studying the humanities, he argues, will teach them how to be nimble.
...behind the counter at starbucks.
“It’s not true that all students want from a college is the job,” he said. They are hungry for an education that “transforms them, an education that addresses their entire selves, not just a bank account.”
No, you guys want people to transform, they went because they were told to do so and picked the easiest major. Because that's just what you do, dontcha know?
If you dig into the data, music majors do pretty well for whatever reason.
Well music and sound generally need people that understand it to keep entertainment competent and with content creation exploding...also entertaining people generally can be quite profitable if you know what you're doing and you have the drive to do it, so not super surprising imo.

On the other hand if your goal is to just like, play songs on the 'Uke from the heart at little cafes maaaaan, you might not make a whole lot...
 
Not only will Humanities survive, the field will probably get better.

Less money means only people who can actually produce good shit or are doing it out of actual passion will be working on it. We will get more people who did something else as a major and only later got a humanities degree. This is good news for the Humanities.
 
I got a better idea. Gut humanities, give the funds to home ec. Because alot of zoomies cannot cook or clean for shit.

REJECT HUMANITIES
RETURN TO ENGINEERING
Agreed. And engineering unironically has some practical arts in it. Like how do you make a pillar that looks good but also can hold the weight of all that rock.
 
Humanities/liberal arts had a very important purpose. The main part of it, before you were to learn theology, politics, fine arts, etc, was the learning of grammar, logic, and rhetoric. Learning the nuances of speech, how people talk, knowing fallacies and avoiding them, allows a person to call out bullshit and actually act reasonable. That is why democracies always abandon liberal arts education and classical humanities curricula, can't have a voter base who actually know their culture and history and can vote based on reason.
 
Humanities departments both collectively and gleefully dug their own graves, while singing socialist fight songs penned by freedom fighters who lined previous generations of humanities departments up against the non-metaphorical wall. Then they filled these graves with things they regarded as problematic, and so are now doomed to roam the earth as a particularly entitled and insufferable breed of overly-educated elitist zombie, that likes avocado sough-dough toast, and the comedic stylings of Hannah Gadsby.

It shouldn't be hard to fund a decent Humanities Department. Discounting the eye-watering price of some textbooks, there is no specialist equipment required, outside of wear-resistant corduroy slacks. Nobody has to get down on their knees to suck the robot AI dick that Boston Dynamics insists does not form part of their inventory, but most definitely does, in order to gain face-time with a cybernetic mouth that will ridicule their Battlebots entrant in the voice of J.K Simmons, from the film Whiplash.

All humanities departments needed to do was a provide a broad curriculum that nurtured genuine critical thinking and well reasoned discussion and analytical skills, and produced graduates who were the opposite of an unemployable hindrance who has to take a sick days to recover from the cumulative burden of micro-aggressions. They were too dogmatic and thin skinned to rise to even those basic and relatively easy to achieve criteria. Now they have to learn how to mine lithium for ChatGTP.
 
The question isn't "Can" but "Should"

The humanities are the door through which midwit leftists took over the colleges, the less influence and money they have, the better.

An even bigger lie than "everyone needs college" is that "Without college, the arts would wither and die!"

There are enough dedicated patrons to keep the arts healthy outside the academic world, and be much more true and honest about them than the current crop of hyperventilating gender-confused wokescolds.

Shakespeare is in much more peril in those people's hands than the dull "normies".

Maybe they won't get some of the deeper pieces, but they also won't arrogantly try to rewrite him for 'modern' times.
 
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I got a better idea. Gut humanities, give the funds to home ec. Because alot of zoomies cannot cook or clean for shit.


Agreed. And engineering unironically has some practical arts in it. Like how do you make a pillar that looks good but also can hold the weight of all that rock.
Ya, home ec in high school, not college. Many people don't go to college and still can't cook for shit. Personally, took three Foods classes in high school because I wanted to be able to feed myself. Learned a lot, got some free meals out of it. About all I got out of four years of high school was learning how to cook and learning how to drive.
 
Well music and sound generally need people that understand it to keep entertainment competent and with content creation exploding...also entertaining people generally can be quite profitable if you know what you're doing and you have the drive to do it, so not super surprising imo.

On the other hand if your goal is to just like, play songs on the 'Uke from the heart at little cafes maaaaan, you might not make a whole lot...
Nevermind that music has some mathematical/programming properties to it if you’re playing an instrument or working in a digital audio workstation.m, or even doing audio engineering.
 
I sure hope not. Then maybe education can get back to teaching and STEM focused work. (i.e. things useful for society and humanity) Should also play a helpful role in the battle to take back campuses from ideologue capture.
 
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