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Can Humanities Survive the Budget Cuts?​

The state auditor of Mississippi recently released an eight-page report suggesting that the state should invest more in college degree programs that could “improve the value they provide to both taxpayers and graduates.”

That means state appropriations should focus more on engineering and business programs, said Shad White, the auditor, and less on liberal arts majors like anthropology, women’s studies and German language and literature.

Those graduates not only learn less, White said, but they are also less likely to stay in Mississippi. More than 60% of anthropology graduates leave to find work, he said.

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“If I were advising my kids, I would say first and foremost, you have to find a degree program that combines your passion with some sort of practical skill that the world actually needs,” White said in an interview. (He has three small children, far from college age.)

For years, economists and more than a few worried parents have argued over whether a liberal arts degree is worth the price. The debate now seems to be over, and the answer is “no.”

Not only are public officials, such as White, questioning state support for the humanities, a growing number of universities, often aided by outside consultants, are now putting many cherished departments — art history, American studies — on the chopping block. They say they are facing headwinds, including students who are fleeing to majors more closely aligned to employment.

West Virginia University recently sent layoff notices to 76 people, including 32 tenured faculty members, as part of its decision to cut 28 academic programs — many in areas such as languages, landscape architecture and the arts.

Several other public institutions have announced or proposed cuts to programs, largely in the humanities, including the University of Alaska, Eastern Kentucky University, North Dakota State University, Iowa State University and the University of Kansas, according to The Hechinger Report, an education journal.

Miami University, a public institution in Oxford, Ohio, with 20,000 students, is reappraising 18 undergraduate majors, each of which has fewer than 35 students enrolled, including French and German, American studies, art history, classical studies and religion.

Those departments are dwarfed by computer science, which has 600 students enrolled; finance, with 1,400; marketing, with 1,200; and nursing, with almost 700.

For the humanities faculty, “it’s an existential crisis,” Elizabeth Reitz Mullenix, provost of Miami University, said in an interview. “There’s so much pressure about return on investment.”

She said she hoped the subject matter, if not the majors, could be salvaged, perhaps by creating more interdisciplinary programs, like cybersecurity and philosophy.

The shift has been happening over decades. In 1970, education and combined social sciences and history degrees were the most popular majors, according to federal statistics.

Today, the most popular degree is business, at 19% of all bachelor’s degrees, while social sciences trail far behind at just 8% of degrees.

Many courses on the endangered list are also dissonant with an expanding conservative political agenda. And many public universities are loath to invite further scrutiny of their already stagnant state subsidies.

At Miami University, degrees on the chopping block include critical race and ethnic studies, social justice studies and women’s, gender and sexuality studies.

White, the Republican state auditor, said his first question was whether state spending on degree programs matched the needs of the economy. But he said that he also wanted to know, “Are we paying or using taxpayer money to fund programs that teach the professor’s ideology, and not just a set of skills on how to approach problems in the world?”

Liberal arts professors are trying to defend themselves, using arguments tailored to an economy that is rapidly shifting — while also appealing to a more august vision of life’s possibilities.

In a recent YouTube video — bluntly titled “Is a Humanities Degree Worth It?” — Jeffrey Cohen, the dean of the humanities at Arizona State University, defends his domain as a pathway toward not just a job but a lifetime of career reinvention.

“Our students are living in a time when the career that they’ve trained for is not likely to be the career that they’re going to be following 10 years later,” Cohen says. Studying the humanities, he argues, will teach them how to be nimble.

In a recent panel discussion in New York City, sponsored by Plough, a quarterly Christian-oriented magazine, Roosevelt Montás, a senior lecturer in American studies and English at Columbia University, suggested that universities should push back against a strictly careerist view of education.

“It’s not true that all students want from a college is the job,” he said. They are hungry for an education that “transforms them, an education that addresses their entire selves, not just a bank account.”

But that argument seems to be faltering almost everywhere.

Harvard, which has an endowment of more than $50 billion, formed a strategic planning committee to look at humanities education. One idea, a university spokesperson said, would consolidate three language majors into one super major: languages, literatures and cultures.

There is also collateral damage. In early October, Gettysburg College shut down The Gettysburg Review. In its heyday, the magazine, founded in 1988, published writers such as E.L. Doctorow, Joyce Carol Oates and Rita Dove. More recently, it has prided itself on publishing up-and-coming writers.

The editors of the magazine, Lauren Hohle and Mark Drew, were caught off guard when the college provost told them they were being fired.

“She said we’re not serving the core mission of the college,” Drew recalled. “I was going to say, ‘What is the core mission?’ I thought this was a liberal arts institution. But I was trying not to be snarky.”

To Drew, the Review, with about 1,100 paying subscribers, was a symbol to the outside world of the college’s commitment to the humanities. But to the university’s president, Robert Iuliano, the Review was a money pit that might have bolstered the college’s reputation among the literati, but at a cost to the student body.

The magazine earned about $30,000 to $40,000 a year in subscription revenue, “and the operating cost is something like five times more than that,” he said.

“We have been really thinking hard about what it means to prepare students for today’s world,” he said, “because you know, it’s changing with such rapidity.” That means, he added, offering courses that could be twinned with “hands-on experiential opportunities.”

White, the Mississippi state auditor, majored in political science and economics at the University of Mississippi before becoming a Rhodes scholar and a graduate of Harvard Law School — a fine example, perhaps, of the value of the liberal arts.

But if he could do it over again, he might switch majors, he said, because “political science majors don’t command a high salary.” Working on a campaign or in government might be more valuable experience than the degree, he said.

White said he personally would have liked to play acoustic guitar for a living. But he doubted his chances for success, given the small number of jobs available.

Then he seemed to reconsider, conceding: “If you dig into the data, music majors do pretty well for whatever reason. They go to work at schools, they go to work at the university setting, or they work in churches.”

So on reflection, he softened his message. “What I would tell students is, don’t write off all of liberal arts,” he said. “Don’t write off all of the fine arts.”

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That means state appropriations should focus more on engineering and business programs, said Shad White, the auditor, and less on liberal arts majors like anthropology, women’s studies and German language and literature.
These three things are absolutely essential to our GNP, and definitely not related to joggers getting gibs. So we should fund them.
 
Dear humanities grads: you are not “well-rounded Renaissance men”. Those guys were actually good at math and were passionate scientists. They were also good writers, unlike modern humanities grads.
 
the sad part is that they will most likely cut back on useless but harmless stuff like smaller foreign languages, not the malicious cancerous fields of the social sciences

they'll fire the people who teach hungarian and thai, while keeping the rats who teach CRT and gender studies
 
the sad part is that they will most likely cut back on useless but harmless stuff like smaller foreign languages, not the malicious cancerous fields of the social sciences

they'll fire the people who teach hungarian and thai, while keeping the rats who teach CRT and gender studies
Language is actually useful and a skill. So of course it’ll be cut instead of lesbian underwater interpretative basket weaving. History and culture can be fun to learn about and can be useful in international business or some analytical positions, but it’s not something that is immediately applicable for most professions. Most cultural degrees like Latinx studies are garbage with no redeemable aspects. They often don’t require language courses and are taught from Marxist lenses.
 
I don't object to serious humanities classes, like real philosophy and history. I do object to blatant grifting, like Beyonce Studies and Grievance 101.
 
To Drew, the Review, with about 1,100 paying subscribers, was a symbol to the outside world of the college’s commitment to the humanities. But to the university’s president, Robert Iuliano, the Review was a money pit that might have bolstered the college’s reputation among the literati, but at a cost to the student body.

The magazine earned about $30,000 to $40,000 a year in subscription revenue, “and the operating cost is something like five times more than that,” he said.
So its about 30$ a year and they spend close to 200k a year on publishing it? how much waste are they printing?
 
With the insistence of the leftist that there is no objective fact and that all interpretation is valid, we have no need of humanities, because the subject material is free online and in the library. Anyone can come up with their valid interpretation of anything on their own time, if they want. With the internet, anyone can publish their interpretation and thoughts in word or video. There is no western Canon, because it's all problematic, so pick anything you want to pontificate about. Marvel, Disney, Beyonce, my little pony, it's all equally valid, empowering, and necessary. We are all philosphers now.

BEHOLD! A MAN!
 
I have to say, everyone has been pointing out how tibetian dance degrees are not only useless but devalue the actual degrees ALL MY LIFE.
Literally all my life I have known this. All of my family and friends all say this. Everyone I know went with programming, or math or engineering, I went with engineering and you know what we have an issue here. There is not enough people who can do basic tasks. 60% of the people working here have some mongolian throat vocalization degree and jesus christ they are less than useless. HR and marketing departments are completely fail, R&D mostly shitheads, busy with trying to have diverse meetings, and even the engineering there is 2 niggers there who can't even work. Incabable of basic tasks. Jesus.

Competency crisis is real and I live in it daily.
 
Most cultural degrees like Latinx studies are garbage with no redeemable aspects. They often don’t require language courses and are taught from Marxist lenses.
Indeed, it is a strange thing when a degree allegedly to study a people, does not require one to speak the language of said people. It is an even stranger thing, however, when a degree allegedly to study a people requires that one be actively hostile to the language of said people, because "Latinx" is pure neolinguistic cancer that the people in question actively despise and which the invading parasitic Woke culture is actively trying to force upon them against their will.
 
In 1970, education and combined social sciences and history degrees were the most popular majors, according to federal statistics.
That's cos it was the province of trust fund babbies. Now that higher ed is often a prerequisite for employment, more people want higher ed and more people want useful degrees.
“Are we paying or using taxpayer money to fund programs that teach the professor’s ideology, and not just a set of skills on how to approach problems in the world?”
This guy is wrong. Humanities higher ed will always be "teaching the professor's ideology". The problem is professors are retards and their ideology is woke garbage.

The magazine earned about $30,000 to $40,000 a year in subscription revenue, “and the operating cost is something like five times more than that,” he said.
It was a quarterly magazine and the last issue costs $15. $30000 is therefore 500 subscribers.
The contents of the last issue:
Essays
Marilyn Abildskov, Maura Lammers, Christina Pugh, and others, plus remembrances of the journal's thirty-five-year history

Fiction
Dariel Suarez, Leyna Krow, Leslie Pietrzyk, and others

Poetry
Natania Rosenfeld, Angie Estes, Virginia Konchan, Samyak Shertok, and others
[NONE OF THESE ARE POEMS!!! -S.]

Graphics
Michael Alvarez
8 women (unless troons, too lazy to check), 2 men (I don't count the artist). None of the "poets" can write anything that rhymes (I linked a sample "poem" for each). I won't even bother with Early Life sections, but Samyak Shertok has a hagiography here which tells you what humanities are looking for in a hire: foreign, illiterate, lazy, gay, anti-Maoist, degenerate, nonprofit scammer, and fundamentally unqualified.

Language is actually useful and a skill.
It's extremely useful for diplomacy. You'd need Hungarian and Thai speakers to know what's going on in Hungary and Thailand. But the US is now in the middle of a war with Russia and the "analysts" don't know Russian.

edit, missed this
If you dig into the data, music majors do pretty well for whatever reason.
Music majors pick their major already having a self-contained job skill, playing the instrument. It's like if the requirement for a business major was running your own business and paying for the education with the profits.
 
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At Miami University, degrees on the chopping block include critical race and ethnic studies, social justice studies and women’s, gender and sexuality studies.
These sound essential.

Harvard, which has an endowment of more than $50 billion, formed a strategic planning committee to look at humanities education. One idea, a university spokesperson said, would consolidate three language majors into one super major: languages, literatures and cultures.
And the graduates are guaranteed to learn none of the three.
 
Nothing of value will be lost. Not because the humanities can't teach you valuable knowledge and a broad perspective on the world, but because the actually useful and uplifiting parts of the humanities have been purged in favor of Marxist junk. You might want to study Shakespeare, only to learn he was an evil white man who belongs on the ash heap of history, or have an interest in the Greeks and Roman, and get placed in a course whose objective is to tear down their subject matter. There is no getting around this crud. The best you can do is read books on your own and stay away from the poison colleges are peddling. Unfortunately, you will miss some of the rigorous schooling earlier generations had access to in those fields, but that's not something you can get anymore. It may come back in the future if the system is fixed, but for now, these are your options.
 
For years, economists and more than a few worried parents have argued over whether a liberal arts degree is worth the price. The debate now seems to be over, and the answer is “no.”
Liberal arts and humanities are not synonymous.

The humanities are very important for maintaining and advancing human culture. If ideas are not kept alive through continual teaching and discussion, they become nothing more than dead words in books, and even the books may be lost. So it was the greatest civilizations of the ancient world fell into obscurity and were only rediscovered with great effort and a lot of luck. While people knew of the ancient Egyptians and Babylonians, they did not know these cultures in their own terms because their literature, their store of knowledge, was functionally lost. Their accumulated wisdom was lost.

The same could happen to us. While Western culture will probably not be lost to the extent Mesopotamian or Egyptian culture was, it's happening on a small scale. Classical and Biblical metaphors that were commonplaces 100-200 years ago can no longer be understood by most, placing large swathes of literature out of reach. Most voters have no political philosophy beyond "give me more" or "be nice," and they lack the historical knowledge to understand the likely outcomes of their choices. Foreign propaganda and colonization are welcomed while native culture is degraded or misrepresented to support foreign interests. Sometimes its very existence is questioned.

Sadly, the degradation of our culture has probably been brought about by the humanities faculties, the same institutions that were supposed to prevent that. Starving this beast is necessary, but we shouldn't lose sight of our goal, which should be the restoration of our culture to its high status.
 
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