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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Trig.Point]

Is this legit, or just another clickbait fag? https://youtube.com/watch?v=iIGgABvg8So

Dr Who wasn't their biggest cash cow, that was Top Gear, which raked in money. 10 years ago, you could put the top gear logo on any old piece of merch shit and it would sell. It was such a cash cow that they insisted the BBC own it directly (which is kind of funny) then watched it just go up in smoke, when they fired clarkson.

Yeah Clarkson is a knob and beating your producers is wrong..ish. but still this is the moment when the BBC saw a £300 million pound brand just go up in smoke.

 

[Slimy Time]

Dr Who wasn't their biggest cash cow, that was Top Gear, which raked in money. 10 years ago, you could put the top gear logo on any old piece of merch shit and it would sell. It was such a cash cow that they insisted the BBC own it directly (which is kind of funny) then watched it just go up in smoke, when they fired clarkson.

Yeah Clarkson is a knob and beating your producers is wrong..ish. but still this is the moment when the BBC saw a £300 million pound brand just go up in smoke.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=N6cfFnBNELs

Who was it they were first replaced them with? Idk UK celebrities, but what I remember was the guy they hired was so shit he kept feeling sick off camera from driving too fast. I don't know think they have been able to get some long timepiece running hosts since those three left.

 

[Trig.Point]

Who was it they were first replaced them with? Idk UK celebrities, but what I remember was the guy they hired was so shit he kept feeling sick off camera from driving too fast. I don't know think they have been able to get some long timepiece running hosts since those three left.

Clarkson, May and Hammon may not have looked like it, but they were all serious motoring journalists with 30+ years of experience, in a pretty tough industry. They could act like idiots for the camera, but the actual proudction of Top Gear was some of the most ambitious TV the BBC has every produced, a lot of the travel stuff rivals the Richard Attenborough shows.

The BBC at first replaced them with actual idiots, nobodies or has beens like Matt LeBlanc. They hired writers to give them funny lines and the whole thing just became a shit show.

The current line up isn't actually that bad, but it's obvious that they toe the line with the producers in a way that Clarkson, Hammond and May never did. Also they're not Motor Journalists.

 

[CWCissey]

Who was it they were first replaced them with? Idk UK celebrities, but what I remember was the guy they hired was so shit he kept feeling sick off camera from driving too fast. I don't know think they have been able to get some long timepiece running hosts since those three left.

Chris Evans, a long time broadcaster notorious for slacking, Matt LeBlanc, an amateur car fan and Joey from Friends, he did his best bless him, and some rally driver I think, I can't remember his name.

Now it's terminal lad and staple of shit TV Paddy McGuiness, ex-cricketer Freddy Flintoff and some other dude, I don't know.

 

[Chaos Theorist]

 

[It'sallabitsillyreally]

Yeah Clarkson is a knob and beating your producers is wrong..ish. but still this is the moment when the BBC saw a £300 million pound brand just go up in smoke.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=N6cfFnBNELs

May kind of captured all that needed to be said there. And fair play to the three of them they are still working.

Chris Evans aside, a man who can add to his resume "failed as a replacement for Jeremy Clarkson" alongside "failed as a replacement for Terry Wogan" the post that lot Top Gear is not awful. On paper Chris Evans and Matt LeBlanc were both car enthusiasts so not awful choices. The newest seasons are worth a watch and I do think it's on a steady upturn. The problem is it will always be compared to the three idiots Slowly, Crashy and Punchy. May, Hammond and Clarkson are not some manner of perfect team but for what the show was they worked and worked well. Any replacements will be compared against them.

If anyone is terminally bored have a look at their Youtube channel and find the Hammond and May assembling Lego video. It's a good demonstration of their fairly solid motoring knowledge.

The Tom Moore thing is a morbid irony, poor fellow was already being treated for pneumonia so adding Covid atop that given his age should be a near guarantee that he'll be passing soon. Hopefully not though.

 

[Clem Fandango]

How did he not receive his vaccine already? He's a hundred fucking years old.

 

[CWCissey]

How did he not receive his vaccine already? He's a hundred fucking years old.

That is a good point, especially as Captain Tom would be someone who would be plastered all over the news as an example of getting the vaccine so you should too.

Fetch the mint sauce, I smell sacrificial lamb!

 

[Hoplixe]

That is a good point, especially as Captain Tom would be someone who would be plastered all over the news as an example of getting the vaccine so you should too.

Fetch the mint sauce, I smell sacrificial lamb!

He was already being treated for pneumonia when he caught it, guy got double-whammied.

 

[Odessa Norwood]

How did he not receive his vaccine already? He's a hundred fucking years old.

Apparently he was diagnosed with pneumonia before he was due to have it.

 

[Clem Fandango]

I'm reading an article on the BBC about how Ursula Von Der Leyen is coming "under pressure" to resign over the whole shitshow over Northern Ireland, and more broadly the slowness of the commission to order and approve vaccines. But all I'm thinking is "from who?". I'm sure other Eurocrats are sending furious messages in their WhatsApp groups about how this incompetent bint has put their collective gravy train under scrutiny by spastically flailing in all directions, but what mechanism do "EU Citizens" have to oust an incompetent commission leader?

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

what mechanism do "EU Citizens" have to oust an incompetent commission leader?

On this side of the channel we call it article 50. On a serious note the Eurocrats probably have some obscure article allowing them to give whoever the commissioner the boot. However I doubt it will be enacted.

 

[mate]

It's funny/sad how she keeps simping for the EU in the belief that Brussels will somehow take her away from the mean ol UK like a gold digging wife of a has-been businessman badmouthing him to the hot new millionare on the block.

They're NEVER going to let you in the EU backdoor, honey.

Your country carries too much debt thanks to idiotic socialist policies that have sapped growth and wasted untold billions (which, naturally, she wants to expand to literal free money for being Scottish... no idea where that cash is supposed to come from except apparently the magic money-printers in mainland Europe....) Scotland will never ever clear the most basic entry checklist based on that alone, and the other MEPs won't say it to your face, but, a country that is already openly backstabbing it's partners in one union (uk) is showing EXACTLY why 31 members of the union it wants to join should say "Hell no" to that request . Your behavior makes it clear:

If they'll do it to England, they'll do it to you. If they'll threaten withdrawal/independence every time they don't get their way, and expect to stay in power by constant empty socialist promises of free money... why would you want them?

And not only that. Spain and any other EU nation with separatist regions will veto their membership. Don't want Catalonia thinking the EU accepts that sort of thing.

 

[Ly Erg]

And not only that. Spain and any other EU nation with separatist regions will veto their membership. Don't want Catalonia thinking the EU accepts that sort of thing.

That would be for any other method of achieving independence without a binding referendum approved by Westminster or Courts so Spain could still tell Catalonia that it's not getting a referendum without it's approval and join the EU as a result.

Plus we don't know if that's just showboating or not from Spanish Politicans just to make an argument against Catalonia independence like the UK does with Scotland, it could just be about recognition alone that if the UK recognised an Indy Scotland or not.

Regardless, won't know the truth till it happens so it's all just speculation at whatevers genuine or not. I'd rather be for an Indy Scotland trading with the UK and elsewhere if the EU trade bloc makes it difficult anyways.

 

[Irrelevant]

That would be for any other method of achieving independence without a binding referendum approved by Westminster or Courts so Spain could still tell Catalonia that it's not getting a referendum without it's approval and join the EU as a result.

Plus we don't know if that's just showboating or not from Spanish Politicans just to make an argument against Catalonia independence like the UK does with Scotland, it could just be about recognition alone that if the UK recognised an Indy Scotland or not.

Regardless, won't know the truth till it happens so it's all just speculation at whatevers genuine or not. I'd rather be for an Indy Scotland trading with the UK and elsewhere if the EU trade bloc makes it difficult anyways.

Here's what will happen.

SNP will get a majority in May with a referendum in their manifesto which is what allows them to ask Westminster. They currently have neither which is why they haven't asked yet.

Westminster will say no.

Sturgeon knew this would happen but will use it to stir up more protests in Glasgow. She will never call an unofficial referendum because there's no guarantee anyone would recognise it.

 

[Ly Erg]

Here's what will happen.

SNP will get a majority in May with a referendum in their manifesto which is what allows them to ask Westminster. They currently have neither which is why they haven't asked yet.

Westminster will say no.

Sturgeon knew this would happen but will use it to stir up more protests in Glasgow. She will never call an unofficial referendum because there's no guarantee anyone would recognise it.

Pretty much.

The problem for the SNP though is that it will cause the whole idea that a majority SNP government gets a referendum to be a moot point now since it makes less point to vote for them when majority or not, they ain't getting another WM approved referendum peacefully and could lead to people using their 2nd vote on another independence party which would thin the SNP numbers.

Protests won't matter because they would take place in Scotland and not in front of the Tories homes in England and Tories don't give a shit about Protests against them.

An unofficial referendum would either have Westminster ignore it or go the route of Spain's dealing with Catalonia's referendum (Which I would prefer, just to cause more division). The SNP don't have the balls or have any known armed force/militia willing (none that I can recognise anyways) to do a UDI so it's all just showboating.

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

Sir Tom Moore is dead.

 

[TowinKarz]

Pretty much.

The problem for the SNP though is that it will cause the whole idea that a majority SNP government gets a referendum to be a moot point now since it makes less point to vote for them when majority or not, they ain't getting another WM approved referendum peacefully and could lead to people using their 2nd vote on another independence party which would thin the SNP numbers.

Protests won't matter because they would take place in Scotland and not in front of the Tories homes in England and Tories don't give a shit about Protests against them.

An unofficial referendum would either have Westminster ignore it or go the route of Spain's dealing with Catalonia's referendum (Which I would prefer, just to cause more division). The SNP don't have the balls or have any known armed force/militia willing (none that I can recognise anyways) to do a UDI so it's all just showboating.

I can see them starting a referendum anyway, knowing full well it won't be approved, just so they can scream bloody murder at the standing Government "Ignoring the will of the people!" to distract from the fact they've accomplished nothing of substance for at least 4 years now except burning money on the usual pie-in-the-sky socialist dreams that somehow, once you throw enough cash at a problem, it will suddenly Pokevolve into utopia....

 

[AnOminous]

Sir Tom Moore is dead.

It was kind of inevitable. 100 years old, already with pneumonia, then gets COVID on top of that. Bad break for a good guy.

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

It was kind of inevitable. 100 years old, already with pneumonia, then gets COVID on top of that. Bad break for a good guy.

Yeah, I think he went into hospital for the pneumonia where he caught Covid.

I wanted him to get better just to see the reaction. Conspiracy nuts would use him as proof that the virus isn't real and the like. Boris would use it to brag about the great NHS.

Still, 100 years old. Not a bad innings.