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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Mathas said:
Well of course. When you're being arrested those photos and prints are used for booking. I'm specifically asking if taking a person's photograph when they're fined on the street is normal procedure in the UK?

If not... Well I could see someone arguing that they just took his photo for their fancy new system he was trying to avoid.
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Ridiculous... No I don't want to have my photo taken, here is a fine for mean words, btw, we are taking your photo anyways.

Would love it if the reasoning was "well, I just fined him for disorderly conduct, better keep an eye out for him on our database", would be the sort of bullshit justification I could see them making.
 
Unog said:
So you think that this won't end up being abused by the government at all? That this won't be used to great effect against political dissidents?
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What can't be abused by the government? I don't see this as any kind of argument, as it's effectively a meaningless statement. It doesn't matter what you give or don't give a government permission to do, they'll find a way to abuse it if they actually have reason or cause to. Of course this has potential to be abused by government! So did the Domesday Book from fucking 1086. The whole reason we're only now hearing about stuff like the underground pedophile rings is because government abused the lack of any kind of grand, globalist informational exchange to isolate and extinguish whistle-blowing attempts. Whatever you invent, some asshole is going to find a way to use it in a manner you don't want them to. Then somebody will invent something that adjusts or counters that thing, and so on and so forth. If you don't want a government that can abuse you, don't fight a desperate war to try and somehow claw away their ability to abuse you. Vote for people you trust not to abuse you instead.
 
LocalFireDept said:
They're too free and smart and handsome and not cuck islanders
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Pushing it with the handsome... UK law/police/TR threads always generate so much autistic shrieking.
@EasyPeasy Calm down you autist. Half the post are you doing the above whilst doing nothing to explain or help, just like the TR thread.
 
Disclosure: I will go back after this, but I've basically read the first page and that's it.

That being said, this is some bullshit,and I almost dont know where to start. Maybe the guy got fined for disorderly or whatever the fuck bongs call it, but in America, if you haven't broken a law you can call a cop a tranny-blowing faggot and tell them to fuck off, and it's not a crime. The first amendment is alien to the Brits I guess.

On the other hand, I see a problem that UK and US law enforcement have in common; they will commit minor crimes to incite an actual offense which gives them the greenlight to do whatever.

"Stop, I'm detaining you for being suspicious."
"Fuck off, that's not a crime."
" Now you're being disorderly and resisting."
"Ur mom teh big gay, miss me wit dat shit nigga."
(Tasers and screaming "STOP RESISTING" ensue)

Cops are universal pieces of shit in every country,and when the legal system is as fucked as in the UK, it just makes things worse.

Again, sorry if this was already pointed out in one of the 4 or 5 pages I skipped, but I wanted to get this out in my own words.

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EasyPeasy said:
I take the 20mg Oramorph 4 times a day along with the tramadol, gabapentin and cocodamol. I take amitriptyline at night to help sleep.
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Real talk,if you weren't retarded before all of that, you most certainly are now. Get some physiotherapy and cut down on the nerve inhibitors. This might be hard to process right now but trust me; gabbies and horse will atrophy your almonds.
 
Forever Sunrise said:
What can't be abused by the government? I don't see this as any kind of argument, as it's effectively a meaningless statement. It doesn't matter what you give or don't give a government permission to do, they'll find a way to abuse it if they actually have reason or cause to. Of course this has potential to be abused by government! So did the Domesday Book from fucking 1086. The whole reason we're only now hearing about stuff like the underground pedophile rings is because government abused the lack of any kind of grand, globalist informational exchange to isolate and extinguish whistle-blowing attempts. Whatever you invent, some asshole is going to find a way to use it in a manner you don't want them to. Then somebody will invent something that adjusts or counters that thing, and so on and so forth. If you don't want a government that can abuse you, don't fight a desperate war to try and somehow claw away their ability to abuse you. Vote for people you trust not to abuse you instead.
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This is just a fundamental difference between the american and british mindsets, I suppose. We'd kill politicians and cops over here for this kind of shit, whereas apparently you guys think it's a grim inevitability and should just lay down and accept it. No wonder this is the country that came up with lie back and think of England.
 
Unog said:
This is just a fundamental difference between the american and british mindsets, I suppose. We'd kill politicians and cops over here for this kind of shit, whereas apparently you guys think it's a grim inevitability and should just lay down and accept it. No wonder this is the country that came up with lie back and think of England.
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So when is Hillary going to the chair?
 
Won't be long before muslims and africans complain that this "targets" them and will have them removed from their ghettos with not even a hint of pushback from the powers that be. Meanwhile the dickless whitebongs will murmur about how unfair it is (but only out of earshot of their masters lest they be fined or imprisoned for wrongthink) before shrugging and turning on a soccer game to cheer for their "local" team comprised 80% of said africans and muslims.
 
James Howlett said:
Disclosure: I will go back after this, but I've basically read the first page and that's it.

That being said, this is some bullshit,and I almost dont know where to start. Maybe the guy got fined for disorderly or whatever the fuck bongs call it, but in America, if you haven't broken a law you can call a cop a tranny-blowing faggot and tell them to fuck off, and it's not a crime. The first amendment is alien to the Brits I guess.

On the other hand, I see a problem that UK and US law enforcement have in common; they will commit minor crimes to incite an actual offense which gives them the greenlight to do whatever.

"Stop, I'm detaining you for being suspicious."
"Fuck off, that's not a crime."
" Now you're being disorderly and resisting."
"Ur mom teh big gay, miss me wit dat shit nigga."
(Tasers and screaming "STOP RESISTING" ensue)

Cops are universal pieces of shit in every country,and when the legal system is as fucked as in the UK, it just makes things worse.

Again, sorry if this was already pointed out in on of the 4 or 5 pages I skipped, but I wanted to get this out in my own words.
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Haven't missed much, just autistic screeching.
Forever Sunrise said:
What can't be abused by the government? I don't see this as any kind of argument, as it's effectively a meaningless statement. It doesn't matter what you give or don't give a government permission to do, they'll find a way to abuse it if they actually have reason or cause to. Of course this has potential to be abused by government! So did the Domesday Book from fucking 1086. The whole reason we're only now hearing about stuff like the underground pedophile rings is because government abused the lack of any kind of grand, globalist informational exchange to isolate and extinguish whistle-blowing attempts. Whatever you invent, some asshole is going to find a way to use it in a manner you don't want them to. Then somebody will invent something that adjusts or counters that thing, and so on and so forth. If you don't want a government that can abuse you, don't fight a desperate war to try and somehow claw away their ability to abuse you. Vote for people you trust not to abuse you instead.
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That's the sort of shit that Blair used to push forward his anti-terrorism bill, which allowed for the indefinite detention of foreign nationals without trial or extradition. or the recent Snooper's charter. Governments will abuse things, doesn't mean we should take it lying down. Also, who can you vote for who won't push this authoritarian nonsense through? Tories will, and their supporters like it because "it protects the kids" (UK Porn Licence supporters), Labour will ban and arrest because "dat's racist", Lib Dems and their offshoots are no different, CUKs are...well, just that, and UKIP is a joke thanks to one Carl "I wouldn't even rape you" Benjamin. Unless there is a massive reform of what the parties stand for, they will keep encroaching on freedoms "for the children/safety of our people" and the populace takes it apathetically, you can't vote for anything different atm.

Government is a complete shower, having come out today and more or less said what people have said they would do years ago, and are now saying that if her Withdrawal Bill fails yet again, then they will consider whether to go no deal or to take Brexit off the table. Every facet of government and education has infected with this "the government will fix it" mentality, it is frankly a disgrace. When they are not backstabbing and showing contempt for the people voting, they are eroding freedoms. The opposition is not any better.

At least when countries like China, Malaysia and Singapore massively restrict freedoms, they don't pretend that they are a free and people can do what they want, it's fit in or fuck off with them. Many of the other commonwealths will hold themselves out as free whilst restricting rights, and that is what I find most vile about it.
 
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