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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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JambledUpWords said:
I could, but then I’d be wasting that intelligence on you
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Now, now, remember that if you have to tell someone you're better than them chances are you're not. Don't lower to the level of this obvious faggot.

theo102 said:
Tell me again how derailing the thread is a bad thing.
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Well... It's not exactly a good thing, now is it? You have to understand how this looks, right? You claim to be drawn by the christchurch threads, yet post nothing in them, and then create a fresh account to slapfight as some moosey-fag. You're clearly white knighting for a religion wholly antithetical to civilized societies. For a religion that would just as soon see you dead. But you know... Peace and blessings n shit, amirite?

Dunkirk said:
you show promise, keep this up and maybe you'll get a thread for your autism.
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Nah. There's nothing significantly interesting about this dude. At least not within the context he's provided thus far. Just a lot of garden variety "NO, U!" shit we can see on reddit any day of the week.
 
theo102 said:
The Quran likens people who don't use reason to beasts. It endorses other sources of information and leaves it up to the reader to make the connections.


Yes, it's about the same in Judaism.


That varies with culture. The core gender roles involve protection of women, but Islamic culture doesn't always honour those core roles.


Sharia law is politicized, especially regarding punishment.


Islam, like any religion, has traditions which are political in origin. The core teaching from the Quran is modesty, and that can be interpreted mean anything from a headscarf with conservative clothes to a full burka.
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Nigger you've lost your god damn mind.

1: It commands it's followers to lie, cheat, enslave, murder, and rape non-believers and apostates. It also doesn't give a shit what order you do it in. Oh and if you don't follow the tenets as directed, you fall under the label "apostate" so you don't get the privilege to ignore the instructions in the holy books on how to wipe your ass or who you get to have sex with and tell an Imam in a confessional afterward how naughty you were without getting at least getting a beating if you're lucky.

2: If you're trying that unbelievable moon logic in the same vein as the batshit progressives who say "the hijab is a feminist symbol because it's for the protection of women!" I want you to be alerted to the fact that forcing someone to do something under penalty of physical harm with the sole reason for doing so being an immutable characteristic about themselves falls under the category of "oppression". Not going into all of the other horrible, legitimately misogynistic shit that the religion calls for.

3: Sharia law is what the tenets of the faith call for to be instated when an area is under islamic control. I have no idea what you mean by "politicized" unless you literally mean it's a political position muslims take in non-islamic countries.

4: It's interesting you think there's much wiggle room for "interpretation" in Islam. There isn't, and as far as it's "traditions" go it's origin was a pedophilic, blood-hungry, rapist warlord who had - and it says something that I have to add this after pointing out the previous - serious mental health issues. I guess you could call that a funny sort of political in ~640 A.D. but I wouldn't.

I don't give a fuck about magical men in the sky, but I want to point out that you shouldn't think you're kidding anybody with that horseshit.
 
Yawn. Look new troll dude, at least put a little more effort in. Maybe say something a little bit relevant to the thread? About a christian dude being denied entry due to the violence inherent in Christianity?

I get that this is new for you, but we get like 50 of you a week here. Why not just drop the trolling foolishness and actually join in real discussion?
 
theo102 said:
Do not mix truth with falsehood and do not deliberately hide the truth
Quran 2:42
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Let not the believers take the disbelievers as Auliya instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allah in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And Allah warns you against Himself, and to Allah is the final return. Quran 16:106

And a declaration from Allah and His Messenger to mankind on the greatest day that Allah is free from obligations to the Mushrikun and so is His Messenger. So if you repent, it is better for you, but if you turn away, then know that you cannot escape Allah. And give tidings of a painful torment to those who disbelieve. Quran 9:3

And they schemed, and Allah schemed too. And Allah is the Best of the schemers. Quran 3:54

"Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible, and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory... it is religiously precautionary in all cases to employ words that give a misleading impression... Reliance of the Traveler p. 746 - 8.2

So the militant interpretation is that unbelievers should be turned to Islam in the name of Allah, or failing that, deceived until they can be turned, or killed. Which is perfectly supported by all the evidence we have available.

It's pretty stupid saying religion of peace, religion of truth, when terrorist cells are operating out of mosques and people are bombing the shit out of everything.
 
The refusal letter from the department states the book of Revelations – the final book of the Bible – is “filled with imagery of revenge, destruction, death and violence”, and cites six excerpts from it.
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it's literally a prediction about the end of the world and Jesus coming back to have an epic battle with Satan what do they expect it to be.
 
DICKPICSRUS said:
it's literally a prediction about the end of the world and Jesus coming back to have an epic battle with Satan what do they expect it to be.
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Also, it's entirely metaphorical. It is one of the weirdest things to come out of the New Testament, sure, but I wouldn't exactly call it laws condoning violence and repression in the times they were written like Leviticus.
 
HeyYou said:
Also, it's entirely metaphorical. It is one of the weirdest things to come out of the New Testament, sure, but I wouldn't exactly call it laws condoning violence and repression in the times they were written like Leviticus.
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well there's a lot of stoning the sluts in the old testament. if he'd said that he followed only the New testament they're have had no reason really?

I'm just spitballing here.
 
Wonder if the reaction would be the same if it were an ex-Christian converting to Islam because it’s a religion of peace and seeking asylum.

Oh, who am I kidding. This is Brexit. They’d probably welcome him into their country with open arms and give him government subsidies to buy a truck of peace to match his beliefs.
 
Allowing legitimate refugees into the UK means that actual refugees would get resettled in the UK and the cuckolds in the UK government who get off to importing Pakistani rape gangs into the UK and having them rape innocent girls won't be able to indulge in their fetish anymore.
 
"Lawyers and campaigners said the case demonstrated a “distortion of logic” and a “reckless” approach to asylum seekers’ lives, stemming from a tendency by the department to “come up with any reason they can to refuse” cases."

"Stephen Evans, chief executive of the National Secular Society, meanwhile branded it “wholly inappropriate” for the Home Office to use “theological justifications for refusing asylum applications”. He added: “Decisions on the merits of an asylum appeal should be based on an assessment of the facts at hand – and not on the state’s interpretation of any given religion. It’s not the role of the Home Office to play theologian."

Looks like some idiot couldn't come up with a valid reason for refusing asylum, and came out with this complete gem.
Congrats, this moron has lent credence to people who believe validly that the UK is cucked regarding Islam, or backed by Muslim money.
 
Speedwagon said:
I don't give a damn about this religious debate autism, I only came here to find out if the decision stands or has been reversed, and more importantly, has the employee responsible been fired?

I'd rather not have this information be buried under pages and pages of unrelated sperging.
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No news on that yet, however, this was stated in one news report: A Home Office spokeswoman said: "This letter is not in accordance with our policy approach to claims based on religious persecution, including conversions to a particular faith."
So it looks like either some highly incompetent staff member wrote this garbage, or (more likely), some muslim government worker got so infuriated that one of the brethren would dare convert to Christianity that they wrote this cherry picked letter.

I wouldn't bank on that person getting the sack unless a lawsuit were to occur regarding this matter, though the solicitor for the asylum seeker has filed a formal complaint.
 
Is there any chance they'll reveal which employee did this? That's the most interesting part of this for me. I don't think it was some vengeful Muslim, my money is on some pale soy enthusiast who was afraid a Christian fleeing a Muslim country for their own safety would be used as ammo by the alt right and they would rather let an innocent person die than let the bad guys have a "win".
 
TerminalTryHard said:
Is there any chance they'll reveal which employee did this? That's the most interesting part of this for me. I don't think it was some vengeful Muslim, my money is on some pale soy enthusiast who was afraid a Christian fleeing a Muslim country for their own safety would be used as ammo by the alt right and they would rather let an innocent person die than let the bad guys have a "win".
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Hmmm. I suspect it'll probably be some idiot who doesn't have a clue about anything. Probably a Tumblrina.
 
Misplaced theological arguements on the farms aside, this is pretty much the MO of the UK goverment at the moment. Their's a constant drive to hit quotas so employee's will do anything to make that hit they think they can get away with. For example I've seen people dying of terminal illness' been shifted onto 'employable' status, the home office isnt a bigoted shit show-it's an inept one.

Although the outrage and disgust for abused Christian refugee's considering our general track record with such peoples is a 'touching' break from the norm.
 
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