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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Swerf'n'Terf said:
He will be using Some Might Say by Oasis'as campaign music
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That’s pretty funny. Since he’s planning to become PM without actually being elected as one he’s trying to make this by-election into ‘his’ GE.

I have no doubt whatsoever that Noel Gallagher is a ‘shy Tory’, or whichever party is most favourable to the 1% at the time. Liam probably doesn’t vote.
 
Kofi Drinka said:
Twitter doesn't have free speech.

Getting rid of Starmer does nothing. Starmer is the figure head of labour but if you understood UK politics you would understand that's irrelevant. People holding real power never want to be in the top seat because it makes you the patsy. More of our PMs have been put there to take the blame for unpopular changes the party wants but no one wants to be blame for. Starmer is doing the job he was put there to do, but he's refusing to leave once he's dirty enough to want a clean patsy. Replacing him won't change anything.
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Admittedly, all I know of UK politics comes from news articles I read here. Have never been there, no plans to go, cannot leave the USA anyway due to health. But I've seen a great many things that go against what Great Britain used to be, so all I can do is advocate someone else become Prime Minister.
 
For anyone who may care, I think this might be the first majority non-white England World Cup squad. Twelve white, two of whom are back up goalkeepers and unlikely to play, and fourteen non-white.

I think the place of football in the national consciousness of the UK is something that needs rapidly dismantling, not just for the needless fracturing it can cause among working class White British, but because it has been used for quite some time now as a globalist/immigration/globohomo propaganda vehicle.

The ‘mbungu played a blinder… open the borders’ meme really does have a lot of truth to it.
 
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For anyone who may care, I think this might be the first majority non-white England World Cup squad. Twelve white, two of whom are back up goalkeepers and unlikely to play, and fourteen non-white.

I think the place of football in the national consciousness of the UK is something that needs rapidly dismantling, not just for the needless fracturing it can cause among working class White British, but because it has been used for quite some time now as a globalist/immigration/globohomo propaganda vehicle.

The ‘mbungu played a blinder… open the borders’ meme really does have a lot of truth to it.
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A noticeable amount of people rooted against the USWNT over politics but I think divegrass is such a huge part of your culture that I don't see you guys following suit.
 
cancelmysubscription said:
I think the place of football in the national consciousness of the UK is something that needs rapidly dismantling, not just for the needless fracturing it can cause among working class White British, but because it has been used for quite some time now as a globalist/immigration/globohomo propaganda vehicle.
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Football has lost it's national identity the same way cricket has. People just aren't watching it the way they used to. Kids aren't playing it because they have other forms of entertainment. Can the working class even afford tickets any more?
 
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For anyone who may care, I think this might be the first majority non-white England World Cup squad. Twelve white, two of whom are back up goalkeepers and unlikely to play, and fourteen non-white.

I think the place of football in the national consciousness of the UK is something that needs rapidly dismantling, not just for the needless fracturing it can cause among working class White British, but because it has been used for quite some time now as a globalist/immigration/globohomo propaganda vehicle.

The ‘mbungu played a blinder… open the borders’ meme really does have a lot of truth to it.
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This is a good example of why reducing immigration isn’t going to cut it, And Labour can bleat on about bringing the numbers down but it won’t cut any ice with the majority of the public.

The damage has been done, There has been a massive shift in culture, large chunks of the country where being white British is the minority. It’s not possible to put the cat back in the bag.

This is where the anger stems from. Not racism. Not numbers now (although of course that matters) but what’s been done. And until a mainstream party can articulate that and have a vision for what the future looks like, they’ll be going nowhere and we’ll be stuck on this prime minister merry go round.

Let’s face it, given birth rates across cultures, if we cut immigration to zero, the white British would become more and more squeezed anyway.
 
only shallow said:
It’s not possible to put the cat back in the bag
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Not with that attitude!

I’m under no illusion about how badly the West has been bombarded with near extinction level insanity over the past eighty years, but it can be gradually undone.

Cutting out the cancer from within, beginning first with the institutions that have been ‘marched through’ - the civil service, the media, the judiciary, academia etc. - followed by the mass deportations. Then you can move onto the finer details such as financially incentivising White British couples to have children, recruitment drives from a young age in schools for jobs in the NHS and the armed forces, reinstilling national pride and a sense of duty.

It would require the total seizure of power and a complete cultural shift, but it could be done.

Will it? Probably not, but I could knock up a ‘X-point plan’ and have it to you by Monday if you like!
 
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I think the place of football in the national consciousness of the UK is something that needs rapidly dismantling, not just for the needless fracturing it can cause among working class White British, but because it has been used for quite some time now as a globalist/immigration/globohomo propaganda vehicle.
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Football serves as one of the last remnants of local community, football teams are tied to specific areas and their histories entire families support a single team you take away that you take away a large part of regional identity.

What do you mean about "needless fracturing among working class white british"? There hasn't been any major issues with football hooliganism since the late 90s and even then most of that was just organised scraps which still happen because people like to fight, most of the "animosity" if you can even call that is just banter between rival fans, it's like calling a welshman a sheep shagger or making fun of a geordies accent, there isn't any actual fracturing.

While I don't fully disagree with the last bit not every person who watches football are zogslaves and do have a problem with the state of the UK and make it very well known several football fan bases are known for being particularly right wing and anti immigration e.g, Millwall
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Do you really think a white working class young man who can see the state of the country right now is just going to do a 180 on all of his opinions because some senegalese player scored for his team? Like it or not football is ingrained into British culture, it's where the sport originated and talking about "dismantling" it is like saying we should ban television because it stops the population from starting a race war or something.

Basically what I'm trying to say is don't get all of your opinions about football from that norf fc meme that did the rounds a few years ago that was probably made by some american /pol/fag who knows nothing about Footballing or British culture.
 
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Pat Mustard said:
What do you mean about "needless fracturing among working class white british"? There hasn't been any major issues with football hooliganism since the late 90s and even then most of that was just organised scraps which still happen because people like to fight, most of the "animosity" if you can even call that is just banter between rival fans, it's like calling a welshman a sheep shagger or making fun of a geordies accent, there isn't any actual fracturing.
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You don't know very much about Scotland do you?
Pat Mustard said:
Do you really think a white working class young man who can see the state of the country right now is just going to do a 180 on all of his opinions because some senegalese player scored for his team? Like it or not football is ingrained into British culture, it's where the sport originated and talking about "dismantling" it is like saying we should ban television because it stops the population from starting a race war or something.
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Football has been dismantling it's self just fine. Nigger fatigue applies to sports as well and people seeing wog united in England shirts is going to turn more people against them. Middle class women who don't watch football will virtue signal but the hate grows.
 
@Pat Mustard

“Football serves as one of the last remnants of local community”

How depressing is that? Might be a bit better in the smaller towns where access is easier and people feel like they have a stake in their teams success, but if you come from a proper city then one of your few chances of civic engagement is ‘pay for a sky subscription (among others) and buy a hundred pound top’.

“football teams are tied to specific areas and their histories entire families support a single team you take away that you take away a large part of regional identity.”

I disagree, just reform (no pun intended) that regional identity around something that actually matters. Football now, with the exception of some lower league as I say, is corporate slop. Nobody should be attaching their identity to that, living vicariously through some people that wouldn’t give you the steam off their piss kicking a ball around.

”What do you mean about "needless fracturing among working class white british"? There hasn't been any major issues with football hooliganism since the late 90s and even then most of that was just organised scraps which still happen because people like to fight, most of the "animosity" if you can even call that is just banter between rival fans, it's like calling a welshman a sheep shagger or making fun of a geordies accent, there isn't any actual fracturing.”

This is ill informed. Football is factionalism, rivalry is an integral part of supporting a team and it affects cohesion and organisation among the white working class in explicit and implicit ways. You can’t say ‘it’s the last remnant of local community, a large part of regional identity!’ and then ‘there isn’t any fracturing though!’. Of course there is, the ‘identity’ of being a Manchester United supporter for example is that you hate Manchester City and Liverpool supporters. Some people truly live their lives like that, I have known and met many. These cities have separate pubs for supporters of the different teams, the week of the supporters revolves around the games their team is playing so naturally they’re mainly socialising with other supporters of that team.

”While I don't fully disagree with the last bit not every person who watches football are zogslaves and do have a problem with the state of the UK and make it very well known several football fan bases are known for being particularly right wing and anti immigration e.g, Millwall”

Not everyone no, but most of them. Millwall’s ground holds about 20k, even saying half of those are anti immigration, that’s nothing. Vocally racist/anti-immigrant supporters are a tiny minority because they literally get arrested, charged with a crime and banned for life. People have been charged with public order offences for singing ‘homophobic chants’. What kind of social proof do you think that’s demonstrating to the people on the fence?

Do you really think a white working class young man who can see the state of the country right now is just going to do a 180 on all of his opinions because some senegalese player scored for his team?”

Probably not. Do you think all the impressionable children, pre-teens, teenagers, young men that have been brought up on rainbow laces, taking the knee, ‘look how cool this black footballer is in this advert’, all the globalist marketing and propaganda that exists around football are going to break that conditioning? Gary ‘borders are fascist’ Lineker is the most high profile pundit in the UK, football is inherently ‘multicultural’ where non-whites are massively over represented, it is ever increasingly incompatible with the mindset that the majority of this country needs, and yes, there will absolutely be those that get conflicted about ‘sending them all back’ when they have a respect/admiration for a non-white sportsperson/musician/whatever, and that’s before that sportsperson/musician/whatever starts making the inevitable public appeals to emotion that they would if the UK started to deport en masse.

”Like it or not football is ingrained into British culture, it's where the sport originated and talking about "dismantling" it is like saying we should ban television because it stops the population from starting a race war or something.”

Yeah? Just un-ingrain it then or face constant resistance to your objectives. Football and the culture around it is a fifth column in the UK, and ‘they’ certainly know that.

”Basically what I'm trying to say is don't get all of your opinions about football from that norf fc meme that did the rounds a few years ago that was probably made by some american /pol/fag who knows nothing about Footballing or British culture.”

I’ve taken nothing from those, it was an off-hand reference.
 
Kofi Drinka said:
You don't know very much about Scotland do you?
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wow the Irish catholics and their decendants don't get along with scottish presbytarians!? they would be fighting at cricket or hockey matches if there was no football
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just reform (no pun intended) that regional identity around something that actually matters. Football now, with the exception of some lower league as I say, is corporate slop.
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Easier said than done to "reform" regional identity that is heavily intertwined with a sport older than a unified German state. I do agree that modern football (championship and PL) is corporate slop that mainly caters to overseas fans.

In relation to the trans toilet ban I remember @Null saying something to the effect of the national shock of the Jimmy Savile case led to a heightened "anti-nonce" radar which manifested itself through anti trans legislation. I do think that has some merit to it, insane how public perception of troons in the UK is probably worse now than it was in the 80s.
 
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