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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[whatever I feel like]

If Starmer was ousted an early election would be even less likely IMO. Whose going to backstab Keir to get his job and then call an early election so they can immediately lose said job.

Many such cases in parliamentary history, especially if you consider the various white colonies as well.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

because he’ll be ignored/omitted/censored/slandered in that order by all forms of media

While I am also sceptical, journos today are so used to running their mouths and always talking about how evil the other side are, and are so tactless, that Lowe/Restore has been mentioned in places like the Financial Times and GBNews as a viable option. Guardian and Canary journos won't be able to shut up about how heckin scary he is once they realise Farage looks like Cameron next to him. More respectable rags will also be talking about the (historic) 10/10 GYF sweep which will legitimise GYF/RB as a political party more.
Money wise, tax cuts and his attitude of "the government isn't going to get involved with how you run ur business" (ie work from home) will attract business owners. A policy of throwing all the browns out of social housing in inner London and giving young professionals/workers the opportunity to get the houses will hugely benefit London companies. Ubereats is obviously not going to back Restore, but fuck em.
Immigrants/browns committing thefts in retail stores, stabbings, and other crimes already pushed a few big names (the big one escapes me rn, but he had to write a non-apology to Keir for his comments? Football club owner?) to criticise govt policy on immigration. It's dire, but not entirely. We are probably at the "censored" stage, but Labours genius idea was to repeat every single "outrageous lie" from the Greens and Reform on video and create the funniest political campaign in the last 50 years, hugely boosting them.

 

[Pat Mustard]

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0:37

I'm so fucking sick of "Right wingers" and their love of culture war Bullshit. Piers wouldn't have touched the trans question with a 5ft pole when it was actually controversial but it's all he talks about now after that supreme court ruling basically settled it.

 

[Really makes you thunk]

Sorry,but how exactly will labour clinging on and shipping in more vermin who hate us, be better? Please can you explain that?

We're getting an endless supply of more vermin who hate us shipped in for the time being, regardless. Are you really convinced that it'll stop the moment Labour get voted out? Or that Reform would even achieve much in terms of stopping it, let alone reversing it? The Boriswave should've been more than enough proof that this isn't a Labour-specific problem. And a lot of those same people who made the Boriswave possible are now in Reform- the party that'll get in, if Labour goes out.

Short term, allowing Labour to fester isn't a good thing. Obviously. But what good (realistic) short term solutions do we even have, which won't make mass deportations an even more far flung dream in the long run? Because that should be the end goal here. For now, allowing Labour to continue shooting themselves in the foot, and keeping the problem actually be visible and on people's minds, seems to be the likeliest route to mass deportations. At least that's how I see it. Happy to be proven wrong though.
It's a moot argument anyway, I highly doubt Kier is going anywhere.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

Polanski gives me an automatic visceral recoil every time I see him (and not just because he looks like Shane McGowan). Anyone with such a shady past is dodgy as all hell. He obviously likes having power over people, if the hypnotism, name changing and rushing into politics is anything to go by. Spidey senses do not like him at all.

All that is before we even begin to talk about what a pile of populist bullshit the apparent ‘green’ party is. They’ve become the new faux-lefty vote, but look at the state of the greens in Germany when they got into power. Decimated their economy and went all-in for NATO and war. Dead environmental, is that. The green movement now is just full of weirdos wanting to push their own personal agenda for their own personal popularity.

What happened to Your tranny Party?

 

[Pat Mustard]

What happened to Your tranny Party?

Sultana and Corbyn had a very embarrassing public fallout over membership fees and the greens took over as the left alternative party from there.

In case anyone was worried, Derek got in by a solid margin (Hulton).

I don't think people know how insane this is, if a tory said something like that around the 2019 GE they would be unpersoned. Next GE is gonna be a wild ride.

If these elections have shown anything starmer should have resigned during the first mandelson revelations. I mean for fucks sake how do you make the welsh vote for a seperatist party, they barely voted for devolution in 97. The only people who voted for him in these elections were weepy middle of the road faggots who are terrified of reform but for some reason won't vote green. I used to think the next GE would result in a Reform/Tory coalition but at this point Reform/Lib Dem doesn't even seem that far fetched. (you have no fucking idea how happy I am that I don't even need to bring up the tories in conversation anymore because they're so irrelevant)


SUFFAH!


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Hugh Anthony sucks cock (much like his oshi nick fuentes) but fucking hell what is that on the right. He's getting actual retards on his show to debate about green party policy but fair enough if you're gonna show up on a stream debating politics you better know some policies.

 

[BongoMongo]

We're getting an endless supply of more vermin who hate us shipped in for the time being, regardless. Are you really convinced that it'll stop the moment Labour get voted out? Or that Reform would even achieve much in terms of stopping it, let alone reversing it? The Boriswave should've been more than enough proof that this isn't a Labour-specific problem. And a lot of those same people who made the Boriswave possible are now in Reform- the party that'll get in, if Labour goes out.

Short term, allowing Labour to fester isn't a good thing. Obviously. But what good (realistic) short term solutions do we even have, which won't make mass deportations an even more far flung dream in the long run? Because that should be the end goal here. For now, allowing Labour to continue shooting themselves in the foot, and keeping the problem actually be visible and on people's minds, seems to be the likeliest route to mass deportations. At least that's how I see it. Happy to be proven wrong though.
It's a moot argument anyway, I highly doubt Kier is going anywhere.

I agree with your last point, he's not going anywhere. It'll take force to get rid of him.

However what's the point of complaining if you don't have a solution? And mine would be a violent overthrow of the government and a far right party taking control that, within days, rounds up all non-natives and gets rid of nearly all of them. Which is what I would like to see. And while I know this is highly unlikely, it's a fantastic dream to have.

There isn't a single problem we face that won't be, at least, alleviated by sending them back to whatever hole they're from. We don't need them, they take more than they put in and they're a massive burden on just about every facet of society they come into contact with.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

It's so over for all the parties.

Labour - The cabinet is telling Starmer to resign, and he won't go. Fucking Milliband was telling him to time frame his departure, angling for Streeting/Rayner. The party will start voting against policies to humiliate Starmer. It's very similar to Biden and the Dems, eerily in fact. The media will start digging around his personal life more and more. I am not going to lie, the fallout is going to be exquisite.

Tories - Kemi is either going to be ousted or replaced by half-monkey Cleverly. What a conservative party, sir. Other than that dead.

Greens - Chief opposition to the right, but their votershare is hard-capped at 20%. They will lose, Polanski will be ousted, and the Muslim will replace him; the white voter base will go.

Restore - Will win the 2029 election overwhelmingly.

Reform - Will now start being very white, most likely, almost all the jeets they ran failed. I think Portsmouth or Plymouth lost to the dems because the candidate was a muslim. Farage will get very arrogant, like Johnson did and not realise a lot of the votes were protest votes and not actual core voters. He will continue to chat shit on Lowe and ultimately eat crow for it.

Very optimistic about the voting, though. Foreigners are hated, and Starmer is despised.

 

[Frofo Baggis]

I'm sure if the left keep calling people against mass immigration "thick racist gammon", they might change their vote next time. They should keep doing that.

 

[Pat Mustard]

a violent overthrow of the government and a far right party taking control that, within days, rounds up all non-natives and gets rid of nearly all of them. Which is what I would like to see. And while I know this is highly unlikely, it's a fantastic dream to have.

Hate his methods all you want but Henry Kissinger was probably the best statesman to ever live besides maybe Otto Bismarck. They were so effective because they had an almost religious devotion to realpolitik, the idea that ideology comes second to actual existing conditions. I think it's much more important to discuss the situation as it stands and the factors that play into that rather than the fan fiction we would like to happen.

 

[BongoMongo]

I live in an area where (and it pains me to say it,but it's true) the councillors are lib dem and are very, very good at what they do. They all have a really strong local presence and all three do a lot, very quietly and in the background, without demanding attention or asspats, for the local community, quite a ways above their responsibility. They're great councillors.

All three got back in but only by the skin of their teeth. I strongly believe if it was different candidates this time, reform, who came a very close second, would have got in.

The four lowest scoring candidates were some independent (can't decide if Muslim or not; has a white name) and the three labour candidates. Given I got a hope not hate leaflet stuffed through my letter box at same time as the one for labour, I am glad they got shitcanned and I am happy they've got a tangible idea of how despised they are.

 

[Pat Mustard]

I live in an area where (and it pains me to say it,but it's true) the councillors are lib dem and are very, very good at what they do. They all have a really strong local presence and all three do a lot, very quietly and in the background, without demanding attention or asspats, for the local community, quite a ways above their responsibility. They're great councillors.

That's why I think the GYF landslide in GY is so important, people remember good local government and are much more loyal to them even if they disagree with the party leadership. Real political momentum comes from being so loved at the local level and while I don't know if Restore will be a force to reckon with at the next election this is a really good start.

 

[SIMIΔN]

Oops.

What is the deal with that anyway? Surely nobody brown is voting for them? What’s going on?

Didn't they let Hope not Hate help with the vetting?

 

[Pat Mustard]

I'm sure if the left keep calling people against mass immigration "thick racist gammon", they might change their vote next time. They should keep doing that.

This is all the political establishment has done for the past 25 years and are shocked when a population that has voted against immigration in literally every election since the end of WW2 votes for a party that takes a relatively tepid stance on immigration. The stance that illegal immigration was not ok wasn't even a debate until around 2015. I hope they continue to keep saying it, keep alienating the white working class (literally the largest share of the population by a massive margin) I'm sure it'll work this time.

 

[tack så mycket]

I'm sure if the left keep calling people against mass immigration "thick racist gammon", they might change their vote next time. They should keep doing that.

It's fucking MENTAL to see this kneejeek reaction playing out again, exactly the same as after Brexit. No reflection at all, absolutely no attempt to try and understand what's happening. My own family are all turbo leftists and they're doing it in the group chat: everyone who voted Reform is a racist, end of story. It's like watching the "And then one day, for no reason at all, the people elected Hitler" meme play out IRL.

 

[Pat Mustard]

This guy is autistic as fuck and runs a minecraft channel as his main job but his autism allows him to be very neutral on things he gives the best (as close as you can get to) objective takes on events I've seen from most commentators

 

[Monopolywheel]

What is the deal with that anyway? Surely nobody brown is voting for them? What’s going on?

Farage in true Boomer fashion is obsessed with not looking racist so will deliberately surround himself with as many browns as possible

 

[Really makes you thunk]

However what's the point of complaining if you don't have a solution?

You misunderstand me, I wasn't complaining- and in fact I'm actually beyond hopeful that we now have a few actual paths forward through standard political means. Four months ago, I'd be right there with you, saying that insurrection was our only choice left. Now though, after all the recent happenings? Something's definitely changing. There are solutions, just no immediate ones.
Restore could win, and Rupert presses the "fix everything" button, but this will take time. Restore pushing the overton window so far, and the public sentiment in favour of pressing the "fix everything" button could reach such unprecedented heights that whichever party wins the next GE may actually press it, even if not Restore, but we aren't there yet. But in a sick twist of fate, letting Labour continue to do their thing seems to be the most direct path to one of these two things happening, which is my point in all of this.

(Rates self )

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

Piers wouldn't have touched the trans question with a 5ft pole when it was actually controversial

Well yeah, if he'd touched the trans question back then there's a chance he'd have actually gone to prison over it.

It's one of the reasons why there's no hope for Labour or Conservatives. They facillitated this situation of censoring wrongthink with severe punishments, and now the overton window has shifted and people are allowed to say the things that they couldn't they remember who told them they couldn't.

 

[Pat Mustard]

Cross post from the MATI thread

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some yookay news teachers have decided to protest outside their school for palestine(?) and have been met by a counter protest by their own students lol even the muslim kids joined in.

Imagine being a kid who actually wants to do well in school and your teacher is stood outside when exams are around the corner acting like a smug prick to you because you want them to do their job my blood would be fucking boiling.