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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

Opinions on Scotch independence?

Personally I don't like having a mixer with it, but I'm sure there are some people who use it in their cocktails.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

It might honestly be even higher because there's always tourists who 'disappear' and live unaccounted for with friends and family.

+ human trafficking and the shacks that are now popping up in London and Bham.

A lot of the Reform umbongos didn't get in- surprise, Reform people are only voting for their own kind. That one lady who didn't speak English from the viral doorbell vid didn't get in. The one who looked like a mega rapist didn't, sorry I'm bad at remembering these star wars names
Glenn Gibbins, however, DID GET IN. WE'RE GONNA FILL THOSE POTHOLES

 

[diroama]

Somebody do an AI edit of Glenn Gibbins but he's purple like that big guy in pop culture phenomenon Marvels and when he clicks his fingers all the muslims disappear.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Somebody do an AI edit of Glenn Gibbins but he's purple like that big guy in pop culture phenomenon Marvels and when he clicks his fingers all the muslims disappear.

But purple Aki was black too?

 

[evrae]

It looks like a general Overton window shift with eyes staying on Lowe. I hear people wanting him to expand out more when he can get more established. Hell, it shows with Restore getting a commanding victory across all 10 seats they were in, which in turn also cucked Reform out of a majority (and thus forcing them to collaborate with either Lowe or the Tories). Just a shame to see that in EoE Norwich there got their city council (unsurprisingly) go Green in the process (which also contributed to Reform getting cucked out of county control).

Just wish Labour lost even more seats, wanted to see the hilarity of them slipping into 3rd or even 4th place. Can't get everything you want in this life, sadly.

But purple Aki was black too?

You just reminded me of this video

 

[femboy fart huffer]

You just reminded me of this video

I miss him more every day. What lolcows does have England have now? Callum's corner and Steven Dawson, that's about it. All of the others are generic sex creeps or trannies. Aki might have been a sex creep but at least he was interesting and unique with it. No one is going around telling stories and urban legends about fucking elpheba or imallex.

 

[Scale Smerch]

Regardless of how Reform will act once in power it's quite telling what things the media (and BBC of all places) no longer tries covering up:


More critical than the skull fucking of Labour and the Cons is how much the Overton window movement on immigration affected the results. Reform won't have as much leeway as they think to cuck out back into business as usual, the pressure for actual change is becoming too great.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

Regardless of how Reform will act once in power it's quite telling what things the media (and BBC of all places) no longer tries covering up:
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More critical than the skull fucking of Labour and the Cons is how much the Overton window movement on immigration affected the results. Reform won't have as much leeway as they think to cuck out back into business as usual, the pressure for actual change is becoming too great.

Guy Dampier, from The Property Institute, wrote for the Telegraph that mass deportations are the reasonable option after estimated arrivals hit 200,000. This would have been unthinkable a year ago.

The latest migration lie is the most dangerous of them all​

For years we were assured that the number of illegal migrants was small. Not anymore
A grim milestone is about to be reached. Today, tomorrow, one day this week, another boat will cross the English Channel and the official number of illegal crossings since 2018 will hit 200,000. That is almost three times the number of regular soldiers in the British Army. The Office for National Statistics classifies an urban area of 200,000 or more as a city. It’s equivalent to the populations of Norwich or Reading. Of that number, in eight years, a mere 8,000 have been deported.
Since they began eight years ago, the small-boat crossings have grown from a trickle into a stream. The routes are entrenched, with criminal networks across Europe facilitating illegal crossings and a supply chain stretching all the way to China. Ending the crossings has frustrated the efforts of five prime ministers from two different parties, with the ambitious Rwanda Plan shut down by the democratically unaccountable judges of the European Court of Human Rights.
Not only is that costing billions, as these illegal migrants have to be housed and fed, but it has also led to an explosion in illegal working and, all too frequently, horrific crimes, like the dreadful abduction and rape of a 12-year-old girl in Nuneaton by an Afghan asylum seeker. He had only arrived four months before on a small boat and claimed that the girl initiated a sexual encounter with him, even though he filmed the attack. If any other government policy regularly led to rapes and sexual assaults then it would rightly be shut down.

Efforts at reforming the asylum system have consistently failed, with international law being the main blocker. That’s why we, at the Prosperity Institute, published a draft bill, laying out how to leave the European Convention on Human Rights and repeal the Human Rights Act 1998, which are the main impediments to stopping the boats and deporting those with no right to be here. A government of any party could implement it, if they chose to do so.
Assuming that this does come to pass – and both Reform UK and the Conservatives are now committed to leaving the Convention – then the fundamental issue becomes one of logistics. Reform has recently attracted controversy for its plan to build migrant detention centres in areas that vote Green, to punish them for supporting open borders. The plans, if successful, would lead to most, if not all, of the 200,000 who arrived illegally being deported. To achieve that, they are planning detention capacity for 24,000 and five charter flights a day. If a plane cannot fly, then an RAF Voyager will be on standby to pick up the slack.
Critics have raised concerns. Freezing out the courts won’t necessarily prevent them from challenging these measures, which could cause delays even if Parliament exercises its sovereignty. To remove the numbers promised requires a tenfold increase in the detention estate and very little operational friction. In many cases those who arrive illegally destroy their identity documentation, making it hard to work out where they are from. Even when we know, their home countries may refuse to take them back.

These are not insurmountable problems, however. Visa sanctions will encourage recalcitrant countries to take back their nationals. Those whose origin cannot be identified can still be removed to a third-party country, the threat of which may be enough to encourage them to leave or seek a voluntary return, as many have done in the United States. Building more detention estate rapidly is perfectly feasible when the NHS was able to build a 4,000-bed Nightingale Hospital in just nine days.
Such a large volume of removals will upset some, as mass deportations have in the USA. It has to be remembered, however, that this is a necessity. If it were not for mass breaches of our borders, then mass deportations would not be necessary. Any politician unwilling to do so is in effect saying that they will condone illegal arrivals, as well as the costs and crime that go with that. Only a rigorous response will create a deterrent capable of ending mass attempts to enter the country illegally.
If the borders are secured, then that should not be used as an excuse to increase asylum via so-called safe and legal routes, as the Home Secretary, Shabana Mahmood, has suggested. Studies in Holland, Denmark and Finland all show that asylum seekers impose high financial costs on the taxpayer, which is an intolerable imposition when unemployment is growing and pay growth stalling.

Instead, it’s time to accept that the 20th-century asylum system is outdated in a world of cheap and easy travel. We should move towards a much more selective and democratically accountable model, such as requiring names to be submitted in an asylum bill, allowing individual cases to be debated in Parliament. Should the number of names be greater than the time available for debate, then it would show we are accepting too many.
In emergency cases, like the Ukraine war, where the danger is geographically proximate, then temporary protection could be offered to populations without settlement rights. Without such controls, asylum will continue to be abused on a large scale.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

I bring reactions to the election from the Spacebattles UK Thread

Pure, undiluted idiocy.

What lolcows does have England have now?

The overwhelming majority of our politicians.

 

[East_Clintwood]

If Starmer was ousted the new leader might call an election in the fall.

If Starmer was ousted an early election would be even less likely IMO. Whose going to backstab Keir to get his job and then call an early election so they can immediately lose said job.

 

[A-Logato]

Watching the results come in this morning and through out the day has been a wild ride. What was even more wild though was Labour coming onto the TV and trying not to cry whilst the BBC tries it's best to cope with Reform sweeping the whole thing.

 

[BongoMongo]

If Starmer was ousted an early election would be even less likely IMO. Whose going to backstab Keir to get his job and then call an early election so they can immediately lose said job.

None of them,because they all desperately want that sweet pension they'll get if they just cling on long enough.

 

[ConsentAccidentVictimNo98]

Pushed by foreign powers who want to cut the English power grid off from north sea gas which would put us into blackouts.

Buuttttt Saar, look at Norway, look at all of their oil money and how it is used as a fund for poeple.

Actually scratch that, if there was a British government that cared, they would have kept the likes of the trucial states, Malta, Qatar. Hell, the first two were actually asking to stay with Britain. If we had their oil money, and managed it well then Britain would be pretty rich. We could have also been from the North Sea, but the entire British establishment like to one Britain like everywhere but the financial market is a colony. It's just they can't grant anywhere else independence for a multitude of reasons.

 

[teriyakiburns]

We could have also been from the North Sea, but the entire British establishment like to one Britain like everywhere but the financial market is a colony. It's just they can't grant anywhere else independence for a multitude of reasons.

It was the post-war consensus. Paternalism mixed with crypto-communism is a hell of a drug.

 

[ConsentAccidentVictimNo98]

It was the post-war consensus. Paternalism mixed with crypto-communism is a hell of a drug.

Paternalism mixed with no fucking money + the yanks forcing decolonization. The irony being that the entire point of America's strategy was to fuck over Britain, and the Europeans to ensure they'd have influence within the middle east instead of the Europeans. And for what? For Americans to die for Israel, the Europeans were fine working with Israel pre Suez crisis. Hell, the Jews would have gotten the Sinai from it. Israel would have been greater. The Middle Eastern countries aligned with the Soviets, like Egypt, would have remained because it was arms to use against the west, Granted, with the canal zone they would have been less likely to cross it.

A Britain that kept Suez would have been been one that remained east of Suez, with actual CVs, carrier battlegroups and the Iran thread wouldn't be bitching about Britain or Europe because they would have kept an East of Suez policy ,and would have helped in the Vietnam war. America's situation is America's fault.

 

[Eekum Bokum]

Speaking of the Suez crisis, I find it pretty interesting that Britain and France received Americas wrath but Israel did not.

 

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It looks like a general Overton window shift with eyes staying on Lowe. I hear people wanting him to expand out more when he can get more established.

To ‘expand out’ you need money.

He’s not going to get a sniff from big business because mass deportations will significantly reduce their margins, not least because - were it ever to actually happen - ‘the bankers’ would find ways to punish the country.

I think even if he were to find a few genuine patriots with very deep pockets that were willing to throw millions at Restore just for the love of Britain - or dibs on the contracts for the Restore Roundup Wagons - he’s going to find it very difficult to get ‘more established’, because he’ll be ignored/omitted/censored/slandered in that order by all forms of media.

I want to see Restore blow up and have every victory, but the system being what it is, I’m skeptical.

 

[Pat Mustard]

When I go to the gym Instead of pre-workout I just put on some James O'Brien I get so angry over how retarded he is I think he actually helps me hit new PRs

 

[Really makes you thunk]

What's the actual likelihood of a General Election spinning off of this? Heard some guy hoping for it this morning.

Hopefully little chance. This is coming from someone who thinks accelerationism is retarded 99.9% of the time, but I legitimately think the longer Kier and Labour in general stay in power, the more optimistic things will look, in the long term.

I don't want labour to win another general Election ever again. This will only become more likely, the longer Kier spends digging the party's own grave.
I don't want people to gain a false sense of security and to think everything is a-okay, while things continue sliding into shit. This WILL most likely happen, if a GE was called called tomorrow, as Reform would win a landslide, and a lot of misguided fools will see it as a sign that everything is magically alright in the world again.
I do want Restore to maintain their growing momentum- and even if winning the next GE is a very long-shot, I still want them to have enough MPs to be a significant voice in parliament. This can only happen if given time to keep that momentum building, as well as for Lowe to set all the proper affairs in order, find the right candidates to contend for crucial MP spots, etc.

The only downside to letting things run their course, is to suffer through another few years of Labour continuing to fuck things up- which I'm sure they'll take a particular sadistic joy in doing. It's not going to be pleasant.

 

[BongoMongo]

Hopefully little chance. This is coming from someone who thinks accelerationism is retarded 99.9% of the time, but I legitimately think the longer Kier and Labour in general stay in power, the more optimistic things will look, in the long term.

I don't want labour to win another general Election ever again. This will only become more likely, the longer Kier spends digging the party's own grave.
I don't want people to gain a false sense of security and to think everything is a-okay, while things continue sliding into shit. This WILL most likely happen, if a GE was called called tomorrow, as Reform would win a landslide, and a lot of misguided fools will see it as a sign that everything is magically alright in the world again.
I do want Restore to maintain their growing momentum- and even if winning the next GE is a very long-shot, I still want them to have enough MPs to be a significant voice in parliament. This can only happen if given time to keep that momentum building, as well as for Lowe to set all the proper affairs in order, find the right candidates to contend for crucial MP spots, etc.

The only downside to letting things run their course, is to suffer through another few years of Labour continuing to fuck things up- which I'm sure they'll take a particular sadistic joy in doing. It's not going to be pleasant.

Sorry,but how exactly will labour clinging on and shipping in more vermin who hate us, be better? Please can you explain that?