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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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British food is incredible and I love how upset people get over it.

A pinch of salt (and dare I say it, pepper) is enough to cook a perfect roast chicken, same with beef. Retards who wash chicken and then complain about 'plain' chicken being dry are their own worst enemy, plus it's always fucking idiots who assume cooking is bunging something in an oven for an unspecified amount of time and then wondering why all the flavour has been cremated.

Granted, I love a (homemade) Chinese and Indian from time to time, but if I get a solid cut of meat I'm not going to slather it in a billion spices in order for it to have 'flavour' just fucking have a bit of sauce on the side if you're so determined to take away any taste of the meat.
 
Tom Nook's Gloryhole said:
British food is incredible and I love how upset people get over it.
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Most "British" food is just what the average person used to eat as a mainstay of their diet. Most of our stuff is some kind of meat, vegetables, carbs like pastry ect and maybe some cheese. It's really simple and uncomplicated. You could live off of it forever and funnily enough people did for centuries. If anyone slags off "British" food just take them to a carvery for crying out loud then stand back as they recant their words. Personally I like the gammon from a carvery.

French food is actually disgusting because it's slop created by maniacs to appeal to rich fancy morons. Chicken Normandie is the exception and is actually quite nice because it's literally chicken in a creamy chicken soup with apple cider.
 
LXXVII Brigade said:
French food is actually disgusting because it's slop created by maniacs to appeal to rich fancy morons. Chicken Normandie is the exception and is actually quite nice because it's literally chicken in a creamy chicken soup with apple cider.
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A lot of traditional French food is basically traditional British food, making use of slightly different herbs and skewing based on local availability of ingredients.

For example, the main differences between Beef Bourguignon and a traditional British beef stew is the use of wine (as France had a lot more access to cheap wine) and the use of root vegetables vs pearl onions and the like (harsher winters meant we had to rely on root vegetables more).

There's also a lot of British food that is famously very good compared to other cusines (our cheeses and savoury pies, for example). The main reason we're seen as bad (mostly by Yanks) imo is several main factors;

  • We have an outsized cultural influence. People are exposed to our culture far more than other places - many of the dumb criticisms lobbed at us apply equally to other Northern European cuisines but Americans aren't engaging anywhere near as much with Norwegian culture.
  • The whole rationing thing with American servicemen, although even without rationing America wasn't particularly great - Julia Child famously got emotional in post war France and developed a passion for food, because she was exposed to flavours she'd never experienced in the USA
  • The comparison seems to typically be Tracy from Doncaster throwing some frozen beige things from Iceland on a tray that goes in the oven at Gas Mark 6 for 30 minutes vs a New York sophisticate. You could easily do the same thing with a foodie here vs Pam from Idaho who thinks mayonnaise is a food group.
  • A lot of our food is very stodgy, stick to your ribs fare designed to see us through tough winters, which is not fashionable in an era of abundance.
  • Loads of Yanks confuse "bland food" (in the sense of not being spicy-hot) with "bland food" (in the sense of being flavourless) and assume everything is improved with the addition of hot sauce. I personally think a creamy dairy-heavy dish is made worse with the addition of spicy heat. Also they don't seem to understand that chili pepper hot isn't the only way something can be hot/pungent (horseradish, mustard etc)
  • It's literally just a meme
 
The two world wars, rationing and loss of generational knowledge and an invasion of weird marketing fads, really did a number on British food. Like @AssignedEva says, traditional British cooking is really good. And I don't even think of it as simple - I can do some quite sophisticated stews and at some point I'll find the time to make pies properly.

But the knowledge is still out there and slowly, I hope, coming back. What's really bleak is when Americans of all countries makes fun of British food. I've eaten in many different countries and the USA is actually the second worst, behind Egypt. I'd put literally any European country, including the Eastern ones, ahead of America. They know how to do meat and are crap at everything else (if we're talking generalities).
 
AssignedEva said:
The comparison seems to typically be Tracy from Doncaster throwing some frozen beige things from Iceland on a tray that goes in the oven at Gas Mark 6 for 30 minutes vs a New York sophisticate. You could easily do the same thing with a foodie here vs Pam from Idaho who thinks mayonnaise is a food group.
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This is what annoys me the most, the laughing over 'beans on toast' as if that's what the middle class englishman comes home from work to although tbh every chef I know makes even worse poverty food choices as they're 100% spent when basic staples like pie and mash or fish and chips are a surprisingly rounded meal for macros.
 
Any one talking about macros is a nonse, wanting to see other men shower.

Pie and mash is good because it tastes delicious. It's a refined recipe through generations taking the best ingredients we have and finding the perfect combos for them. A lot of American food is just stolen Mexican food and then it looks like a pile of shit on the plate.
 
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Oh, that's Rangrez in Hammersmith. The owner, Harman Singh Kapoor, spends a lot of time trolling Muslims - in part in the hopes of appealing to the Tommy Robinson brigade, who he joins on marches, but mostly because he's got the classic "Indian who hates Pakistanis" thing going on
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Surprisingly he's Sikh rather than a Modi-pilled Hindu, but he also has gotten in multiple spats with the Sikh community for insulting the Khalistan (Sikh separatist) movement
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Seems to have been arrested.



Lots of responses pointing to this video he put out with some ritual knife.



Must be a horrible experience as somewhere to eat.
 
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Oh, that's Rangrez in Hammersmith.
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Jesus fuck it's indian moon man. I think anyone wearing literal rose tinted glasses after the whole saville shit idk. Look if we can't go around wearing red armbands because of the connotations then same goes for those glasses.
Tom Nook's Gloryhole said:
British food is incredible and I love how upset people get over it.
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I never understand the crowd that will repeat the same american nigger dey dun be seznan dey fuuud. I like chicken, that's why I just eat chicken. If I wanted shit that tasted like I threw the entire contents of a spice rack into my mouth without thought I would just do exactly that and dump some noodles or shit like that in.
AssignedEva said:
imo is several main factors;
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I think another one is that it's just not super interesting. It's normal food that you'd want to eat daily, not one off food you'd go out for. Other than because they just don't want to cook themselves who is getting excited to go out for bangers and mash or something like that?

I think the best way to describe americans is that they can't differentiate between bland and simple/mellow. Food shouldn't be this massive taste experience. If you constantly seek out an amazing new flavour or some shit like that then you just end up with mcdonalds chemically engineered slop. There is no savoury food better than a good pub pie or a shepherd's pie. We have a lot of incredibly iconic foods, we just don't really think about them because that's just normal for us. What foods does france have? The most famous ones are snails and frogs but other than that there isn't really any iconic french food. We have loads of cheeses, pies, Cornish pasties, fudge and toffee, countless other sweets, shortbread, fish and chips, the humble fucking (greggs) sausage roll. Go a bit more north and you have haggis, kinda similar with faggots and black pudding, west for rarebit. Warkurchesterierasharie sauce is a pretty common ingredient elsewhere too. There's plenty of foods that people outside the country have an interest in and want to try. It's just that americans need everything to be chemically engineered to be as addictive as possible otherwise they won't like it. You could say the same shit for the french but the classic french dishes aren't really associated with france, I don't eat a beef wellington and think of french people.
Tom Nook's Gloryhole said:
the laughing over 'beans on toast' as if that's what the middle class englishman comes home from work to
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Yea don't be fucking retarded. No one does that. You eat the beans on toast before you go out smh, that's a breakfast food. I think a lot of the shit beans on toast gets is just americans thinking it's just straight fucking kidney beans or some shit.
 
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