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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[EddyRooney]

EDIT: I was getting red face over my car insurance which is less than £50 a month and wishing for a world where I can just not pay it lmao. I really am a miser.

Prepare for beetroot.....
Mine was £175. For the year. For a pretty reasonable car too, not an old banger. This is the first year in a decade I didn't haggle for a better deal.

 

[Flavius Claudius Julianus]

Prepare for beetroot.....
Mine was £175. For the year. For a pretty reasonable car too, not an old banger. This is the first year in a decade I didn't haggle for a better deal.

No PL, but I deliberately bought a small cottage in the countryside. On a regular Japanese bangernomics hatchback, I was paying about 10% more than you. Have since switched to a larger family car (still Japmaxxed) and it's about 330 for the year. Still very reasonable.

Meanwhile, I work with a few retards who are paying 800+ per month if you amortise the loan, insurance, tax etc over the year. Truly insane.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

800+ per month if you amortise the loan, insurance, tax etc over the year. Truly insane.

I'd be wiring the car to be a rolling bomb holy shit. I've been staring at my bins today like I'm Denethor in a mood because the council only collects once every 3 weeks, despite me paying them the same as I did when they collected every week.

 

[The Ghost of Sergei Witte]

£121'456. I don't pay enough to match the interest, and I don't ever expect to pay it off. It's just effectively a new tax for me. My parents got their degrees for free. Pain. Paaaiiiinnnnn.
EDIT: I did a Masters though, and then a funded PhD, so I had extra loans, and a period of no work which could be used to pay it off before I even got out of education.

Unironically, seeing these numbers and the number of people it effects in this country makes me understand why the Americans made it into such an issue, and with ours it's done so insidiously, "oy vey you'll never get a job with a degree" I would happily vote Green on the prospect of the loans being forgiven by the Government, with Restore being a second best option to freeze the interest. A backdoor Graduate tax is unbelievably sinister, especially when they were the ones pushing everyone should go to Uni angle, myself falling for that and going into construction of all things.

 

[Geoff Capes Vapes Apes]

Deliberately turning our teenagers into lifelong debt-slaves purely to fiddle them off the unemployment figures and prop up the department of toast studies at the university of Slough is one of the greatest sins of the Blair years.

If I was a young person today I would be looking at degree apprenticeships, my globocorp does them over 5 years, it costs the kids nothing, they're getting paid a decent wage for their age and they are getting workplace experience too.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

The "no loans" frowd have always interested me because do they mean no maintenance loans also? It's unrealistic (and classist) to assume that every uni student (or his/her parents) can foot their rent, living expenses, and booze, by themselves without a loan; and insane, imho, to suggest that every uni student should have a part time job as well, especially someone doing medicine or vetmed which require (unpaid) placements alongside a fulltime course.
The loan itself i don't have too much of an issue with, it's the interest raping I fucking despise. Free degrees I'm 50/50 on. We need to up apprentices pay and improve other forms of post-16 education and training and stop allowing Tesco to hire kids with a "business apprenticeship" that amounts to nothing useful for them. No one does on the job training anymore as many posters have mentioned.

Gordon Brown is alleging Andrew used RAF planes and bases to meet with Epstein.

 

[Geoff Capes Vapes Apes]

The "no loans" frowd have always interested me because do they mean no maintenance loans also? It's unrealistic (and classist) to assume that every uni student (or his/her parents) can foot their rent, living expenses, and booze, by themselves without a loan; and insane, imho, to suggest that every uni student should have a part time job as well, especially someone doing medicine or vetmed which require (unpaid) placements alongside a fulltime course.
The loan itself i don't have too much of an issue with, it's the interest raping I fucking despise. Free degrees I'm 50/50 on. We need to up apprentices pay and improve other forms of post-16 education and training and stop allowing Tesco to hire kids with a "business apprenticeship" that amounts to nothing useful for them. No one does on the job training anymore as many posters have mentioned.

Gordon Brown is alleging Andrew used RAF planes and bases to meet with Epstein.

Medicine should be fully funded for British students, in sufficient quantities to over time ween the NHS entirely off importing Dr Ranjeet from the Deolali Institute of Ayurvedic Cow Piss.

Tesco shouldn't be hiring apprentices full stop because there is no craft/trade there that merits the apprentice title. Working the tills/stacking shelves doesn't need years of training and working alongside a skilled man.

 

[FedPostalService]

Because "It's not actually a loan haha you won't even notice it, really you should take the most you can get because it's not even really a loan." was actual advice all teachers were told to give to their students about university. Also I might just fuck off to the US and never pay it lmao. It's a financial timebomb as well because the government lists the debt as a technical asset that is maturing rather than a mountain of debt that will never be paid off and will eventually explode, taking down the economy with it. In 40 years we'll be seeing articles about how student debt from plan 2 loans is a fiscal wrecking ball that needs to be paid. I'm not even sure who's even making money at this point off of this, because the universities plead poverty, the government is getting nothing back, graduates are on dogshit pay with no progression? The money just sort of catches fire and vanishes up the noses of students and into off licence tills.

I have a Plan 1 loan and I don’t. Price that at all. I don’t even look at the Student Loan Company statements. Even then, I’m not sure I’ll pay main off and I’m on good money and fees were only £1k a term back then.

I feel sorry for all the people who came later. It’s absolutely retarded what happened. That’s absolutely insane the amount of debt and payments before even getting started.

They really need to look at higher education. There’s too many universities and they’re basically just human trafficking schemes now. Lots of people from India and Africa using it to get into the country with fake qualifications only to drop out and claim benefits.

 

[teriyakiburns]

The tunamelts are at it again.

 

[okyt]

What pisses me off about Europe is that we COULD have remained in the EU and been a leading power in writing laws but instead we saw it as a fantastic reason to step back and just blame everything on the EU. "Can't do that sorry, the EU won't let us. Yes I know we could push for the EU to change this but we won't" It was fantastic for midwit politicians too scared to do anything because they could just run the UK based on laws enforced by the EU.

If you go back to 1995 and have a strong European MP who directs policy then the entire EU would be 95% British law. Farage doesn't have any ammunition, Brexit doesn't happen, Merkel's unlimited immigration shit never happens and European ties are stronger.

And why would we have so much power in Europe? Because we were literally one of the only countries in the EU with a reasonable army, navy and air force as well as having access to nukes. We could have simply gone "We won't defend Europe if you push for unlimited migrants" and border crossings from Romania would be shot on sight.

The EU in its essence is a liberal project. Thus liberals are going to be more likely to actively participate in EU politics and show up to vote in the EU elections, leading to the EU slowly but surely getting more liberal over time.

As a nationalist and right-winger it's a losing battle trying to engage and "change" the EU from within because your potential voterbase will be less likely to show up and vote for you.

 

[Otterly]

£121'456. I don't pay enough to match the interest, and I don't ever expect to pay it off. It's just effectively a new tax for me. My parents got their degrees for free. Pain. Paaaiiiinnnnn.
EDIT: I did a Masters though, and then a funded PhD, so I had extra loans, and a period of no work which could be used to pay it off before I even got out of education.

Oooof that’s a lot. I was really lucky, i went in the days when there was still a very small grant if you were poor (I was poor) and I had that, a grand or so a year in loans and worked three part time jobs in term and holidays (on top of a 40 hour a week course.) I ended up with about 3k in loans and had a paid PhD. I lived like an air plant, we used to go to all the guest lectures we could simply for the food they put on.
It’s so wrong that kids are starting their lives in so much debt, it chains them to the system.

 

[Jason_Cruiser]

The tunamelts are at it again.

No shocker. A few years back I spent the night in one. You'd think they were made of paper the way noise travels through them. You tap the interior walls and it's obvious there's little to no insulation. It was the summer so I don't know how these buildings fair in the winter. With the obsession with 'net-zero' you would think keeping the heat in would be a bigger concern.

 

[the printer is outo fink]

Because "It's not actually a loan haha you won't even notice it, really you should take the most you can get because it's not even really a loan." was actual advice all teachers were told to give to their students about university.

There was a thread on mumsnet about a week ago where a mother was asking if she should pay her kid's uni fees upfront as she had savings for it, and pretty much all the comments told her not to, and made these claims.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

or his/her parents) can foot their rent, living expenses, and booze, by themselves without a loan; and insane, imho, to suggest that every uni student should have a part time job as well, especially someone doing medicine or vetmed which require (unpaid) placements alongside a fulltime course.

Maybe we should stop telling teenagers that uni is for partying and finding yourself? Students don't take these loans seriously and I've seen it first hand where the loan comes in and they immediately buy a PS5, couple of games then go out for a night on the piss. Booze should not be coming out of your student loan. It's a luxury and it's your own fault if you take out a large loan and piss it away on life style. Live frugal, earn money where you can and you can afford to go to higher education even if you are poor. Don't treat it like a free party.

No shocker. A few years back I spent the night in one. You'd think they were made of paper the way noise travels through them. You tap the interior walls and it's obvious there's little to no insulation. It was the summer so I don't know how these buildings fair in the winter. With the obsession with 'net-zero' you would think keeping the heat in would be a bigger concern.

The heating is the worst thing. They're cold as fuck and they have stupid eco settings. So you have to constantly hit boost because you might go over your 12p a day limits on heating. Staying in one in January is miserable.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Westminster rumourmill is saying Starmer has been told to sack Streeting.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

The police are throwing the "Actually AI did it" in response to the Israeli teams fans being barred from coming to Birmingham.

I'm so pissed off at this, it's the most blatant lie used to cover their tracks and on the absolute off chance they're telling the truth then AI should be completely barred from the entire Police all the way down to Doreen the receptionist needing help to write emails.

But they won't bar it because they know it didn't really happen, it's just a way to prevent a lot of officers from being struck off and losing their pensions for defending Israeli fans from potentially being massacred by Muslims.

 

[Jason_Cruiser]

The police are throwing the "Actually AI did it" in response to the Israeli teams fans being barred from coming to Birmingham.

I'm so pissed off at this, it's the most blatant lie used to cover their tracks and on the absolute off chance they're telling the truth then AI should be completely barred from the entire Police all the way down to Doreen the receptionist needing help to write emails.

But they won't bar it because they know it didn't really happen, it's just a way to prevent a lot of officers from being struck off and losing their pensions for defending Israeli fans from potentially being massacred by Muslims.

I don't support Isreal, but it's so obvious that the reason they were banned was antisemitism from the muslim community. If they didn't do it out of hate, doing it of fear of a few Jews getting lynched is equally pathetic. It means they know that muslims would attack if they could, but they are too scared to tackle it head on. It's a persistent issue with modern politics the police are cowards and would rather target the victims and pretend everything is still okay than try to actually deal with the offenders.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

If they didn't do it out of hate, doing it of fear of a few Jews getting lynched is equally pathetic. It means they know that muslims would attack if they could, but they are too scared to tackle it head on.

It was fear of the Muslim community in Bham rioting.
There's a video doing the rounds of a female police officer telling muzzies in London that they need to shut up and move on over a Christian preacher in Whitechapel, idk bros i don't want to start getting optimistic again but...

 

[Mysterious Figure]

Whilst, overall, I've enjoyed my time on here it now has to come to an end due to personal threats and directed abuse being sent my way over my continuing support for Nigel Farage and Reform UK.

Who are you?

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

It shouldn't cost the tax payer to put people through university

Unfortunately this is the current business model for bringing in foreign students.

It’s much easier to get the general population to pay for it than get the actual students to pay it back