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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[teriyakiburns]

What's your equivalent of USAID, then? I'm sure you have one, and its probably some sort of gay-as-fuck quango, too.

There's no single equivalent any more. It used to be the responsibility of the Department For International Development, but that's been rolled into the foreign, commonwealth, and development office since 2020, which makes international development "aid" part of the foreign office, under the Foreign Secretary. This would be roughly equivalent to having USAID be part of the state department. I suspect Boris entangled them this way to make it harder to cut the international development budget.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

What could this mean

 

[mandatorylurk]

Seeing the Lowe momentum in such a small amount of time, and listening to Sargon's video this morning about the Restore ad, it seems like you might have someone who won't clearly stab you in the back.

Because that's what Farage was going to do, it was clear the minute Lowe was kicked out of Reform. Farage is the token pressure release valve for the UK, nothing more than a place to put the most discontent. But to his fault and the anger of his uniparty puppet masters, he lied too well with Brexit and people actually believed in him and it happened, so in response they had to just gut the conservatives into being useless to demoralize. Him telling everyone to vote for the tories in '19 was another example of doing what his masters said.

And now with Reform gaining, he was supposed to be the one who maybe stops immigration for a few years, but the rapists still stay and collect welfare. But people don't want that anymore, they want total removal. What worries me is how blatant Farage will turn if there's a three way split between Reform/Restore/Tories to form a government and he does something horrible like ally with greens just to ruin the opportunity. Because he will, especially with his muzzie benefactors now.

I'd love for Restore to also run on maybe giving you guys a first amendment or something that at least stops your faggot cops from harassing white people for shitposting online.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

Restore's first accepted Councillor, Maria Bowtell of Bridlington. She was Tory in 2023, defected to Reform in 24, but resigned last year because of party chaos and 'lack of support'. Lowe's team seems to be vetting people thoroughly and I'll try not to judge people for being duped by obvious snake-oil-saleman Farage. Also a great move to announce your first councillor is a white woman from Yorkshire, right off the back of the Rape Gang Inquiry.

 

[Overly Serious]

So far today, I have been messaged by friends in North America about Lowe and by the most TERFy of TERF types, all initiated by them wanting to ask/talk about Restore.

This has really made a splash.

It's also worth noting that the only criticism from Reform is "he'll split the vote". They can't say he's too nationalist, too anti-Islam, too hard on immigration. They can't say anything about him on any of his positions because its what their own supporters want and it would just cause people to jump ship all the quicker. So they just keep saying "he'll split the vote". Well you did that yourselves when you falsified some charges to kick him out. I don't think the vote will be so split because if the only argument against him is that, then once enough people are over there saying "the vote is split" just becomes an argument for everyone else to go over to Restore as well.

This is really backfiring on Reform's part. Nigel was supposed to gather up everyone's discontent and then fold back into the Establishment safely dissipating it until it was business as usual once again. But he couldn't pull it off. Even this thread's most ardent Reform proponent has to keep promising that Nigel isn't forever, it's just for a bit. They can tell me the vote is split as often as they want - I don't care. I'm voting for who I like. So should everyone else.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

The fallout has been pretty wild, with Farage at 29%, you can tell they're starting to panic, including Zia Yusef saying they are open to unifying the right. Yeah, you mean the fucking guy you said "wanted to kill you." You're cracked mate. This has happened 2 fucking days since I said once they dip down, they will capitulate. I assume Lowe is aiming to get Katy Lamb, too, which would be a massive win. Clarkson, I think, is gearing up to join, too.

The problem with Nigel is that he tried to silence the rights of Britain. You cannot stop the signal once it has been lit up. Lowe did this prior before his sacking. He thought he could bury it in a box; he thinks people are sheep; this will be his downfall.

Lowe's announcement excellently boxed Reform in with the uniparty. Reform is now in a position where it cannot attack Restore for fear of losing members, even MPs. I think they may attack him out of sheer stupidity.

The split vote narrative on X is just delicious. I can read them all day.

Lowe referred to talking to Reform members, I can see Sarah Pochin defecting. They're very similar, both new MPs. Her career is with Shell PLC, but she has served judicially since 2018, and then became a councillor. You can tell she has to hide her power levels as well; they allegedly nearly kicked her out for wanting to "ban the burqa". I know such a based take for a mum of 2. It's sad seeing someone who has ideals be hobbled, just because Nigel does not want to be pissed off.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

It's also worth noting that the only criticism from Reform is "he'll split the vote".

I wish I saved the tweet but I saw some polsci type commenting that based off the polling, Restore isn't splitting the vote but capturing people who would not have aligned with Reform/any other political party; voter turnout is predicted to be higher.
Castle Doctrine pending. Rupert, death penalty for fly-tipping and my vote is yours.

Clarkson is 100% jumping ship. Pochin and Lamb would both be huge defections; any female defections will be pretty big regardless because of Labour's 'all boys club' thing going on right now, and like I said, the Rape Gang Inquiry. As long as Lowe can keep the jeets out, he will be good.

 

[EddyRooney]

So how is this not a complete disaster? Forget all the social issues of mass migration, just from an economic perspective. How is it sustainable for the ONLY group that pays into the system to be declining as a share of population, while at the same time the number of people taking out of the system is increasing year on year?

And speaking as someone who is well read in economics ( rather than a Labour Chancellor ) this is a disaster. The changing demographics are heading in completely the wrong direction for sustainability along every metric. According to the official statistics, whites are still the majority ( have any of them been to Londonistan recently, clearly my eyes lie to me ? ) but it isn't enough and it's getting worse. The national debt is spiralling out of control, we have less chance of covering the interest on this with every passing year and the pessimists see a default in the longer term as a real possibility. Labour have placed their entire economic strategy around us growing our way out of this problem. The issue with this plan is that growth is flatlining ( line is not really going up in a meaningful way ) - the classic socialist tactics of increasing taxation and favouring the public sector will stymie any real growth so the situation will only get worse. All the time we are increasing the numbers of people pulling us further into the mire.

As one of my old teachers used to say, some bedtime reading......

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I've been saying here for a long time now - there simply aren't enough people contributing in our society and far too many people detracting.

 

[Long and sneaky]

Restore isn't splitting the vote but capturing people who would not have aligned with Reform/any other political party;

That'll be me then. I stopped seeing the value in wasting an afternoon waddling down to the polls to vote for which uniparty cretin will be ruining the country a while ago.
Castle doctrine is a big one for me, it's outrageous that it hasn't been law already for decades. Along with the rape gangs and immigration nightmares, Lowe has been saying a lot of the right things to catch my attention.
I'll need to give Restore's policies a good read and wait and see how things are shaking out, but so far it seems like the only party I could even justify the trip to the polls to vote for is Restore.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Castle Doctrine pending

Legalise cannons again. If my house is my castle then I want fucking hot oil for the porch and I want grapeshot ready at any second to blast down the stairs.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

I've been saying here for a long time now - there simply aren't enough people contributing in our society and far too many people detracting.

It also doesn't help that the UK is just, bluntly, unaffordable. So if you're under 35, and you can leave, the country incentivises you to do so. Pay is dogshit, taxes are high, the social scene is dead, house ownership is a literal fairy tale for most people. If you're not tied here by a love of the place, then why stay?

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

Your based right-wing candidate, Sir.


He had to reply to himself; he was getting lit up by pretty much 99% of comments.


Yeah fuck this party. The replies are brutal.

Comments can be found here.

https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2023132135016829427

 

[CaptainAutism69]

Your based right-wing candidate, Sir.
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Yeah fuck this party. The replies are brutal.

Comments can be found here.

https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2023132135016829427

Waiting for the 1000 word essay from the welsh faggot about how Goodwin just found the good browns and will totally dominate Labour.

 

[pot of sneed]

"British Sikhs have done more than most to take on the grooming gangs."

Only because the government doesn't crack down on them anywhere near as hard as they come after the native British population for trying to protect their children.

 

[Otterly]

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What could this mean

I shall wait until I see it to comment on policy but in the meantime, nice frock, wouldn’t have gone for those shoes but the dress is really nice. Maybe white shoes are a resort thing, I simply do not move in such circles.
So… do we get the ‘liz truss returns like a perkier Jean’d’Arc and smites globohomo’ arc or the ‘grifting podcasts’ arc? Tune in next week!

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

whites are still the majority ( have any of them been to Londonistan recently, clearly my eyes lie to me ? ) but it isn't enough and it's getting worse.

See, the horrifying part is that it's actually true but 80+ year old pensioners who live in their own houses or care homes are basically holding the line. Even if immigration is cut off and not a single brown person gives birth then the demographics arre going to swing RAPIDLY in less than 10 years.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I'm a bit out of the loop on what happened to that Nigel Farage guy.

Also, hopefully that Restore Britain thing can be done successfully.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

Policies keep on droppin from Lowe. Spouse visa rules and fees will be relaxed however MANY countries will not have this liberalisation of rules apply, they may be outright banned depending on the final policy. Red List includes Pakistan, Albania, Somalia, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, and more. He wants to allow American, French, Australian, (ie Western), wives and husbands into the country to work and raise a family legally. Visa routes will also be closed for countries with Islamic terrorism

Restore Britain will ease fees and rules around spouse visas.

If a British man or woman wants to raise a family in Britain with their foreign spouse, we will support that.

We will make it easier, quicker, cheaper.

Foreign wives and husbands will not be treated like fraudsters and criminals by the Home Office - we will save that for the genuine foreign miscreants.

There will be a Red List of countries, through which this liberalisation will definitely NOT apply.

Pakistan, Albania, Bangladesh, Somalia, Afghanistan and many, many more.

This list will be decided on facts, it will be decided on evidence.

We will crush fraud, it will not be tolerated.

Cousin marriages will be outlawed, so don’t even try and bring your wifecousin in from Pakistan. Not happening.

But if a British man wants to bring his American wife to Britain in order to build a life together, then we will encourage and enable that.

Because the current system is expensive, slow, intrusive and disrespectful. It’s easier to jump on a sodding dingy than get a legitimate law-abiding French wife or Australian husband into Britain.

Restore Britain will change that. We will restore fairness, decency and competence to the spouse visa system.

Floating idea for tougher immigration rules that apply across multiple countries, a so called Deportation NATO, as countries like Poland and Hungary have wanted for a while. Italy is now turning away 'asylum seekers' with the navy and Denmark is going even harder on them; perhaps a soft EU framework but seems popular.

Deportation NATO.

A Restore Britain Government would initiate the first steps across Europe and the wider West to establish a collective border security coalition: a kind of Deportation NATO, as it were.

Its chief purpose would be to deploy collective leverage – an organised, explicit, and escalatory chain of measures, from visa sanctions to lifetime re-entry bans, that member states apply in concert to secure readmission agreements and operational cooperation.

Consider how much tougher the measure would be if we had an international system in place to ensure that such bans apply not only in the case of Britain, but in as many Western countries as possible.

The NATO-like principle at work is clear: a lifetime ban from one member state means a lifetime ban from all.

There is no reason why the same collective clout cannot also intensify the power of various other penalties like remittance taxes, trade sanctions or visa cancellations.

Done once hard enough, it would not need to be deployed twice.

If a country persistently refuses to accept its own nationals, the coalition will move through a pre-agreed escalation ladder:
(1) naming-and-shaming
(2) moving quickly to visa restrictions
(3) suspension of non-essential travel
(4) trade and tariff measures
(5) restrictions on remittances/dividends
(6) diplomatic pressure
(7) for the most intransigent states, coordinated refusal to admit nationals into coalition territories.

The objective is simple: make non-cooperation politically and economically unbearable for the recalcitrant state until it agrees to practical readmission arrangements.

Multilateral weight magnifies cost.

Sanctions from a single country are easier to absorb, but a unified bloc of economies and travel markets creates systematic and severe pressure.

Coordinated restrictions would also close loopholes whereby nationals bypass one state’s measures by moving to another jurisdiction. All delivered alongside the credible and proven threat of action.

A ladder published in clear terms reduces negotiation uncertainty and removes the advantage of hoping political fatigue will make sanctions temporary. The use of these levers must be governed by legal authority and parliamentary oversight.

The coalition’s designation process must be transparent and evidence-based to withstand diplomatic and legal challenges.

Britain is uniquely placed to lead such a coalition. Initial membership would likely consist of nations already aligned on border enforcement, intelligence cooperation, and migration control: the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, France, Germany, Italy, Denmark, the Netherlands, and Greece.

Several Central and Eastern European states (notably Poland, Hungary, and the Czech Republic) have already voiced support for tougher deportation frameworks and would likely join.

Collectively, this bloc would represent the overwhelming majority of the Western world’s desirable destinations for economic migration, giving it immense leverage over recalcitrant states.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

I'm a bit out of the loop on what happened to that Nigel Farage guy.

To summarise the last few years.

1. Tories were absolutely dogshit and despite pretending to be an anti-immigration party decided to let in a bazillion brown people.
2. Labour gets in as a change, while it was generally understood they wouldn't do shit about migration the hope was that they'd at the very least take the foot off the gas of austerity so public services actually felt like they were worth the mammoth amount of tax taken off our pay every month.
3. Immediately after Labour gets in there's the Axel R mass stabbing incident which, with the combination of what appeared to be a media cover up and a total crackdown on angry protesters basically saw the entire public lurch to the right overnight.
4. So there's Farage and Reform, after picking up a few seats in the election all of a sudden projected to leapfrog both the Tories and Labour with a huge majority should they win the next election.
5. More and more scandals (the asylum hotel guy that started the hotel protests accidentally being let out for one) basically solidify Reform's lead in the polls and almost everything thrown at Farage doesn't affect him (The schoolboy racism scandals)
6. Then, all of a sudden Farage allows brown Tories to jump ship, including the ones who helped let in a bazillion brown people.
7. This is around the point the thread starts fragmenting in here as people go from Reform hope to "ok, I'll hold my nose and vote for them because they're still on paper better than Labour and the Tories"
8. Farage and Reform begin to look even more compromised as time goes on, with these brown Tories and Robert Jendrick pushing a completely bizarre pro Sikh + pro other minority races situation. One of them even talks about India's growth which is absolutely meaningless to Reform supporters and makes it look like they're 100% compromised and ready to stab us in the back.
9. Then Rupert Lowe decides to create his own party which closely resembles what Reform were originally set out to fucking do, without any of the watering down to appease centrists.

The sudden switcharound on Farage is because he was leading the polls on Reform's original points and then bizarrely decides to become more centrist despite looking like they'd win a complete majority anyway. It felt like he was trying to sabotage his own party somewhat and all of a sudden, the unwavering support for Reform has halted with a huge split emerging.

 

[Goose the Redeemer]

Hmm. Why have the Office for National Statistics produced this table in a counter intuitive manner ? Could they possibly have an agenda ?

It's not counter intuitive, the man is retarded. The graph shows the effect on household income, not net tax contributions. (graph is also titled badly?)

I can't find that graph though. Ons website. Any of the sites don't even have a single result for the word 'ethnicity'. The only place that I can find which posted this graph and gives any link is on reddit and that link leads to a blank page on the ons site which is somewhat linked to the linked site and that once again does not have this image or any talk of ethnicity at all. I cannot find where this graph came from. Whether that means the government knows it fucked up and is hiding shit, or grifters made shit up to grift on, I do not know.

It's not an official graph (Those aren't ONS colours, and they usually go for the horizontal bars. Also, we generally don't put a "+" in front of positive numbers like that, smells foreign to me.) but the data is real. The attached is the relevant table extracted from the "Effects of taxes and benefits on household income (Financial year ending 2024)" dataset along with a similar graph.