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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[SIMIΔN]

"He'll split the vote"

He will split the vote.
Keir got 2/3s of the seats with a 1/3 of the votes because the opposition was split.

Lowe is launching a national party.

I think he'll make a far better PM than Farage, but I'm terrified of another 5 years of Labour.

I don't think NF kicked Lowe just to secure leadership, but at the time it would've made Reform look too Tory.
If NF wanted the best for the country, he'd let Restore Britain candidates run unopposed in small-c conservative areas, so he can get aligned people in without losing centrists.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

"What is necessary will be incredibly painful"

Shame he’s the only British politician speaking the truth. This is what Farage should have been.

Isn't that what Jim Ratcliffe said the other day?

 

[Sensitive Young Man]

Isn't that what Jim Ratcliffe said the other day?

I don’t think Ratcliffe is a politician.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

I don’t think Ratcliffe is a politician.

He's the part owner of manchestah united. Jim said a politician needs to come along and do what's unpopular and uncomfortable.

 

[Le b0wski]

Good people of Scotland- can you identify this man? On last Saturday he went to someone's door in the "wee" hours of the morning with a knife and to date hasn't been identified AFAIK.

The person who's door he knocked on will know exactly who the guy is, the person who filmed it and lives across from them has no idea.

 

[soulless guarantee]

I wonder if Habibi will try to join.

I cant remember which youtuber interview I saw with Habib recently, but I do seem to remember him saying he would join a Lowe-led party. But this was prob before the announcement of Nick Buckley as Advance candidate for Gorton. I get the impression that Habib has put a lot of thought into what would need to happen upon a right wing insurgent party entering government. Whether he feels like he's invested too much into Advance to quit is prob what it comes down to, and whether he actually feels any chagrin towards Lowe for apparently backing out of running Advance in order to focus on Restore Britain as a social movement, only to now swing round again to launch and lead a party. Habib has never seemed keen on being the leader of the party - indeed I thought his openness about this was a negative for Advance. Yes, he is appearing honest by being so open about it, but it didnt come across in the manner of the underdog hero stepping into the breach to do what needs to be done. Lowe has much more of that pathos around his character.

It could be that Advance just gets folded into Restore. I imagine the membership would probably be mostly fine with that - I assume they want a right wing party, but dont like the direction or leadership of Farage, so moved to Advance due to no other options at the time, plus maybe some memories of Habib from UKIP times etc

 

[Clem Fandango]

I wonder if Habibi will try to join.

Just let a load of third rate Tories join. What's the worst that could happen?

 

[Made In Wales]

Well, at least those who don't want Nigel as PM now have an alternative.

Good for Rupert, but I doubt he'll get many votes in comparison with Reform UK.

Anyway, our (maybe) soon to be PM - Ooga Booga of Tottenham - has had this marvelous idea:



@soulless guarantee What IMO will happen is that the Right Wing parties may form into one solid unit post Farage - that will effectively be step 2 of them governing, uniting the tribes and with a new leader going forward into the 2030s/40s with long term plans and delivering on promises.

The only thing which will prevent Lowe being PM, other than votes, is his age - he's close to 70 and whilst Nigel, Richard Tice, Lee Anderson etc. aren't spring chickens we can get a few years out of Nigel and then it'll be up to a younger leader (maybe Jenrick, I think that is the continuity plan) to then have five or so years as leader before we get a more 'legacy' leader who can beat Blair's and Thatcher's records of 10 years or more at the top.

The Left, unless they get a 'Nigel of the Left' will still be blaming the then-dead Tories and refusing to listen to criticism as their numbers eventually slip to single figures.

Love them or loathe them, Reform UK is winning more battles than it is losing - we don't always get our way (as seen in Caerphilly and a recent council vote in Fishguard which Plaid celebrated as if they'd won the World Cup) but overall things are looking very positive at the moment and all the right people are seething and crying about it - it makes me glow internally.

Also, interesting...

 

[EddyRooney]

Live with the goat fuckers, die with the goat fuckers. We should never have let the virtue signalling fossils back in the country

British couple held by Taliban describe 'culture shock' returning to UK​

A British couple detained by the Taliban in Afghanistan for seven-and-a-half months have described a "huge culture shock" after returning to the UK.

Peter, 80, and his wife Barbie Reynolds, 76, said they were never told why they were being held, nor why they were released in September.

The couple, who have run a charity programme in Afghanistan for almost two decades, told BBC Newsnight the last five months in the UK have been "totally different".

"What we've been through changes us. What we've been through in the last, well decades, but also obviously last year, it reshapes you," said Barbie.
"You think differently and you see things differently than we did when we used to live here before."

While living in their long-term home in Afghanistan's Bamiyan province, Barbie said she wore a Hijab at all times and was not allowed out in public without her husband.

"The freedom here is very striking; people are free to wear what they want, go where they want," she said.

"She was no longer a 76-year-old, she was in her 90s," he said, adding that his wife was unable to steady herself to walk.

They previously said they wished to "hug" the people who decided to jail them and forgive them.

"I'd want them to know I'm not holding a grudge against them," Peter said.

He added that he would love still to work with the government of Afghanistan "for the good of the people of the country".

They sent a message to Craig and Lindsay Foreman, who were arrested and detained by the Taliban in January 2025.

"Hang in there, don't lose your hope," said Barbie.

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"Hug, forgive and not hold a grudge ?" - Either they were guilty of something or they have learned nothing. In my opinion they are irredeemable.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

I think it's been long enough, I honestly can't remember what day it was so it should be ok. But I had to pick some some shit up from the 'diverse' part of town a while ago. There's a pretty big park nearby so I thought I'd stick the dog in the van and take her for a walk somewhere different while I was there. Yes I took my dumb furball that only exists for my pleasure to the paki side of town

Holy fuck I saw some absolute creatures though. Even in a pretty sparse area, so not many people and not up close. There was one of them that looked like a fucking tellytubby, probably po considering their toilet habits. I don't know what the fuck it was but he had what must have been a two incher growing out the top of his head. He had that classic bald spot but it was also growing a idk a thing? You know in old cartoons, Jerry would push an anvil onto Tom's head and he'd grow a mountainous lump? Yea apparently that's real? There was some other thing that I don't even know how to describe. He wasn't hunchbacked or anything. But his spine was just misplaced. Instead of coming out of the base of your skull just behind your jaw it was coming out the fucking back of his skull. Imagine just the skull without the jaw, he had a P shape instead of a lollypop shape. Like if you gave him a nuggie that would be akin to trying to break his neck. His entire head was a couple inches lower and more forward than a human's should be. I'd call it neanderthalian but honestly I think it's worse than that. Aren't you glad to have the privilege of paying taxes for the nhs? It makes you rethink mythology. No I don't think there were giants or cyclops or dwarfs, I think that the Greeks or Romans found their way to india and just didn't know what they were looking at and assumed it must be some mythical beast.

 

[Made In Wales]

> Be elderly and tortured by savages
> Be more scared of being branded as 'racist' by your own country

I think that explains it @EddyRooney



Earth to Beaker: 'MEEP OFF!'

 

[teriyakiburns]

I don't think NF kicked Lowe just to secure leadership,

NO, he booted Lowe because Lowe was capable of independent thought and dared to propose policy ideas. It's a pattern with Farage, visible all the way back to when he took over UKIP in the 90s. Anyone with too much independence and motivation challenges his ego, so he kicks them out.

It could be that Advance just gets folded into Restore.

It wouldn't be the first time. We're seeing a right replay of the gang of four, in a way, so it makes sense that the insurgents would eventually fold into a more stable party. Plus there's a certain satisfaction in merging the names: Advance and Restore Britain.

The main problem I see is that Habib and Lowe are both fairly well on in years, so whatever they do will have to happen relatively quickly

Also, interesting...

From this I understand that half of muslims haven't figured out the truth yet.

There was some other thing that I don't even know how to describe. He wasn't hunchbacked or anything. But his spine was just misplaced. Instead of coming out of the base of your skull just behind your jaw it was coming out the fucking back of his skull.

Sort of like this?



I assume it was someone with microcephaly. It fucks up the whole spine as well as everything else.

 

[Made In Wales]

Happy Hallmark Card Day!

Spare a thought for Keir Starmer on Valentines day...

He's got to buy presents for his wife, Lord Ali & five rent boys!

 

[Sensitive Young Man]

Meanwhile Farage: “Without Islam, we lose.”

 

[BongoMongo]

NO, he booted Lowe because Lowe was capable of independent thought and dared to propose policy ideas. It's a pattern with Farage, visible all the way back to when he took over UKIP in the 90s. Anyone with too much independence and motivation challenges his ego, so he kicks them out.

It wouldn't be the first time. We're seeing a right replay of the gang of four, in a way, so it makes sense that the insurgents would eventually fold into a more stable party. Plus there's a certain satisfaction in merging the names: Advance and Restore Britain.

The main problem I see is that Habib and Lowe are both fairly well on in years, so whatever they do will have to happen relatively quickly


From this I understand that half of muslims haven't figured out the truth yet.

Sort of like this?

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I assume it was someone with microcephaly. It fucks up the whole spine as well as everything else.

Microcephaly is literally nightmare fuel. It's absolutely horrific.

 

[Vesperus]

I don’t think Ratcliffe is a politician.

Not per se, but he has fat sacks of money, fingers in many pies, and I suspect a very patriotic streak. Slap me with rainbows, but I hope this is an overture to him putting his weight behind Lowe.

 

[EddyRooney]

I've posted this in full because I think it is important, it's not being covered by our treacherous media and it needs to be seen -

As posted by Rupert Lowe on X -

Today marks the end of the survivor participation for our rape gang inquiry hearings. I simply have no words that describe the bravery and courage of these women who have come forward.No words.

What they have been through is indescribable.It has been a life-changing experience for me. I never thought such evil was possible. Never. Not here, in Britain. In our towns, in our communities. It is pure evil.

These men are so utterly depraved.If it were up to me, thousands of them would receive the death penalty.To do what they did, on such an industrial scale, to innocent young girls - many of whom were already in such an incredibly vulnerable place? There is no redemption possible. The world is a better place without them in it.

I started this inquiry because so many others failed.Speaking honestly, I did not understand how deep this evil is rooted in our society.Police, politicians, council officials, the NHS, social workers, children’s homes - it is everywhere.IS everywhere. Not was. IS.Meeting these women, and men, listening to how severely they were failed by those tasked to protect them? My views have changed forever. I knew it was bad. I never knew how bad it was.

Every single one who has come forward is a hero in my view.The courage and grace in how they have conducted themselves is unlike anything I have seen in my life. All because they don’t want others to suffer the same fate. That is an extraordinary sacrifice. They could have just moved on with their lives. Tried to forget. But no, they chose to do this. I am in awe of all of them.

Our hearings will finish tomorrow, following the contribution of three more expert witnesses.Then the next stage begins. We will produce a report, and then we will seek to put people in prison. There are FAR more testimonies and evidence to release - this will keep coming and coming and coming.

Even with a media blackout, we have reached tens of millions. We have made real progress. And following such immense demand, we will reopen the portal so that more women can tell their stories.This is just the beginning.Politicians from all parties have failed these girls, again and again and again.I do not intend to join that list.To everyone who donated, thank you. To our team, thank you. And especially to the survivors, thank you.I believe that together we can start to make Britain understand what is happening, and then finally do something about it.

 

[Overly Serious]

Well, at least those who don't want Nigel as PM now have an alternative.

The problem for Farage is that this includes quite a lot of Reform supporters. I've lost count of the number of times I've heard the sentiment of "I support Reform but I wish Farage wasn't in charge."

Farage seems to have forgotten that Reform's support is not based around their achievements, but on the failures of the Tories and Labour (esp. Labour). He seems to have forgotten it because he feels he can bring in people responsible for those failures to Reform without consequence and because he feels he can drive out the people and supporters that actually make Reform an alternative, rather than more of the same.

I think his party stands a better chance than Advance, but it's going to be quite the struggle to compete with the momentum behind reform. I wonder how much engagement the press will give him. In some ways I expect they may be gleeful about a chance to split the right / damage reform, but then a lot of the reform voters base prob align a lot more with Lowe, so giving him coverage might have the unintended effect of actually gaining him more grass root support

Yes. I will be following the media coverage closely on this one because it will tell us a lot. If they drift more and more towards favourable coverage of Reform, that will mean that the Establishment view Restore as a real threat and are trying to pick the "Nationalists" that they think will play ball with them. If they give favourable coverage to Restore, it may mean that they think they can pull off neither winning by playing each other off against each other.

I think that latter is less likely though because it really nails the Overton Window to the nationalist mast and creates a bit of a 'purity' spiral of nationalistic dialogue that might drag the Tories into competing as well and Labour to grow even more distant from the general public feeling. So my money is that they'll plug Reform if and when Restore start getting somewhere. TBH, if that polling mentioned up thread is true, then Restore are actually starting somewhere to begin with. Lowe has earned himself huge credibility with his efforts on the grooming gangs. And his message of wholesale tackling the establishment and finding real local champions is going to resonate well with people looking for an alternative.

The only thing which will prevent Lowe being PM, other than votes, is his age - he's close to 70 and whilst Nigel, Richard Tice, Lee Anderson etc. aren't spring chickens we can get a few years out of Nigel and then it'll be up to a younger leader (maybe Jenrick, I think that is the continuity plan) to then have five or so years as leader before we get a more 'legacy' leader who can beat Blair's and Thatcher's records of 10 years or more at the top.

That's something else I liked in Lowe's message. He obviously doesn't want it to be about him or a cult of personality. His stated goals are to find and bring up new and good people. That's what we need.

He will split the vote.
Keir got 2/3s of the seats with a 1/3 of the votes because the opposition was split.

Some degree probably. But... I just cannot bring myself to vote for Farage if there's a better alternative. I am so tired of every election being "Here is a list of things you don't like. If you try to get anything better, we'll choose for you."

I'm sorry, I just can't do that anymore. If they don't want the vote split, they're just going to have to come along with us.

 

[The Green Man]

About that couple, I wouldn't be shocked if they're dangerous to us now. Remember that white woman who was kidnapped, then brainwashed into doing terror acts? Deport.

 

[Made In Wales]

Reform UK maybe does suffer from 'Nigel-itis' but we need him at the start of the journey when we hopefully become the next Government, thereafter we have to plan for life after him.

Never think that Nigel is the be all and end all with Reform UK - he isn't. He is our Clough, Fergie and Shankly but even they weren't above the clubs they served as managers and all in time were replaced.

Reform UK is not going to be a five or ten year project, it's going to be around for hopefully centuries in one form or another - therefore it begins with Nigel but does not end with him. We have to plan not just for the short-term but the medium and long-term assuming that the Left will never learn their lesson and will just navel-gaze and blame everybody else (as they usually do). After Farage, and possibly Jenrick, it's then a free run as to how far to the Right we do eventually go.

Lowe, Fox, Kurten etc. are all good and decent people, but tell me please how can they get into power, work to get out of the ECHR, UN, possibly NATO (though I get there are reasons why we should stay for now), WEF etc. and form a successful Government overtaking Reform UK in the polls? It's very very unlikely - I think I should award rainbows for a change.

Ultimately, I think Reform UK are almost there, but we cannot be complacent and whilst the wind is in our sails currently that could change at any point. The 'bleed out' is minimal and come the next GE I think more people on the Right will back Reform UK because they're the only option which a) can get enough votes and seats in order to win a GE and b) Reform UK as a 'brand' is certainly more noticeable and has more traction than any other party on the Right overall.

The choice will always be with the electorate and at least you can choose whoever you want - even if it's a local Independent candidate, you have that right.