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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Anne Green lives in Heath field. I know the area very well and I'm stumped the greens got in there. It's worth remembering these cards are to go to the vermin in Crowborough
Good on Sir Jim Ratcliffe.

I appreciate that the Manchester United fans among us (if any) might not like him, but he's only saying aloud what many of us think.

I doubt he cares if it reflects badly on The Red Devils, apparently he's looking to offload them to some oil-rich Asians.


Don't respect him. He's back tracked and apologised
 
Don't respect him. He's back tracked and apologised
Has he learned nothing from the Bad Orange Man ? Never apologise.....ALWAYS double down.

If he had any balls, he'd have called Starmer a traitor ( and asked him what he knows ( biblically ) about Ukrainian rent boys ).

Perhaps Starmer should report himself to the nonce line in Maxwell's video ( this is all very Stalinist ) ?

In Stalinist Confessions, Igal Halfin investigates the phenomenon of a mass surrender to the will of the state. He deciphers the skillfully rendered discourse through which Stalin defined his cult of personality and consolidated his power by building a grassroots base of support and instilling a collective psyche in every citizen. By rooting out evil (opposition) wherever it hid, good communists could realize purity, morality, and their place in the greatest society in history. Confessing to trumped-up charges, comrades made willing sacrifices to their belief in socialism and the necessity of finding and making examples of its enemies.

The only problem is I'm not sure I could draw a parallel with Starmer having a "cult of presonality", is it possible to have a "cult of non-personality" ?
 
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Has he learned nothing from the Bad Orange Man ? Never apologise.....ALWAYS double down.

If he had any balls, he'd have called Starmer a traitor ( and asked him what he knows ( biblically ) about Ukrainian rent boys ).

Perhaps Starmer should report himself to the nonce line in Maxwell's video ( this is all very Stalinist ) ?

In Stalinist Confessions, Igal Halfin investigates the phenomenon of a mass surrender to the will of the state. He deciphers the skillfully rendered discourse through which Stalin defined his cult of personality and consolidated his power by building a grassroots base of support and instilling a collective psyche in every citizen. By rooting out evil (opposition) wherever it hid, good communists could realize purity, morality, and their place in the greatest society in history. Confessing to trumped-up charges, comrades made willing sacrifices to their belief in socialism and the necessity of finding and making examples of its enemies.

The only problem is I'm not sure I could draw a parallel with Starmer having a "cult of presonality", is it possible to have a "cult of non-personality" ?
Thing is, if he did, he'd only inflame the situation with the Sky Sports/BBC insufferable idiots.

Some Tranny would probably try and burn Old Trafford down anyway because 'he hurt my fee fees.'

Fags on Socials are demanding Starmer seize his assets - I thought he only seized those of Ukranian rent boys... ooeerr missus.

He should have said 'I'm sorry that you feel offended but I'm a Muslim.'

Edit: Looks like, from many sources, Ratcliffe said 'I'm sorry that you're offended' which isn't a sign of him buckling to pressure at all.

Also, to hell with Drippy Drakeford.

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If anyone is still not convinced we live in a third world shit hole,let me remind you, we do.

Had a call just now from an old friend. One of our social circle has died from sepsis caused by an infected tooth. He lost everything when his wife kicked him out, including his job. He was booted off the NHS dentists books for missing an appointment (because they never sent him a text message about it. This is a common ruse by them).

Developed an abscess 3 weeks back. Fobbed off completely, given low dose ABX. Can't afford private care.


Pain got worse then stopped likely because the nerve died. Felt flu-y and off, collapsed at work three days ago. Dead of sepsis because despite taking £££ from our taxes the NHS won't fund dentistry, at 40.

And yet there is money for boat vermin to have dental care.
 
I regret to inform people that Mock the Week has returned and is providing such gems of political insight as, "nobody kind of seems to call Farage in the media."

I've as much contempt for him as the next non-Welsh poster but telling a lie that egregious even when it's "comedy" is pathetic. Though them trying to present Tony Blair as a moral human was worse.
 
I had a craving for jelly today and had a look at the pre-made pots. All of the ingredients were vegan friendly, plant-based bollocks.

Then I had a look at the old-school jelly cubes and they have not changed their ingredients. Pork gelatin, sugar, not a plant-based globohomo additive to be found.
 
I had a craving for jelly today and had a look at the pre-made pots. All of the ingredients were vegan friendly, plant-based bollocks.

Then I had a look at the old-school jelly cubes and they have not changed their ingredients. Pork gelatin, sugar, not a plant-based globohomo additive to be found.

His nibs and I were talking about this last week. He bought a packet of fruit jelly sweet from coop and they were foul. They taste almost floury and had a consistency like what I imagine wallpaper paste does. Turns out they're vegan now and have potato starch in.

The reason we use gelatin is cos it's a biological product and it's semi liquid at body temperature which is who you get that lovely gooey feeling from stuff with it in.

If vegans want to do that, I don't care but I'm sick of having their slop sneaked into everything.
 
His nibs and I were talking about this last week. He bought a packet of fruit jelly sweet from coop and they were foul. They taste almost floury and had a consistency like what I imagine wallpaper paste does. Turns out they're vegan now and have potato starch in.

The reason we use gelatin is cos it's a biological product and it's semi liquid at body temperature which is who you get that lovely gooey feeling from stuff with it in.

If vegans want to do that, I don't care but I'm sick of having their slop sneaked into everything.
It's not just Vegan gunk you need to watch out for - Halal is now in a lot of food even without labeling.

Haven't had a good news dump here for a while:


Welsh town named in Epstein files in teasing reference




Court packed with 100 more watching online to honour 'force of nature' barrister




Reform UK take seven-point lead in Wales with Plaid needing 'rainbow coalition' to govern, new poll says




Second inmate denies murdering disgraced former rock star Ian Watkins




Wales discover Nations League opponents as Craig Bellamy's side handed draw (England also find out who they'll be playing as well)




Teenage soldier found dead days after escorting Queen's coffin


 
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Turns out they're vegan now and have potato starch in.
They've all gone this way. Fruit Pastels of the Rowntree variety are mushy, instead of chewy. You used to able to suck on them badboys like an old lass with a Fox's Glacier mint.

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I have found, and reported, more and more items out of date at my local supermarket. I'm talking prawns up to a week old, still displayed for someone to buy. I'm a stickler and check the dates of bloody everything (Including the jelly I bought) but some of the items I've seen out of date by more than a day:

Fresh chicken
Sandwiches
Prawns
Fresh Fish
Milk
Fridge raiders chicken pieces
Chicken bits (meal deal snack).

Please. Check the dates on your produce!
 
Sage advice there @Duane Dibbley

(Just hope that the sage isn't out of date as well)


Some GB News bits:


Politics LIVE: Labour MP regrets NOT rebelling against Keir Starmer on Palestine Action vote as group wins court appeal on terror ban




Switzerland to hold vote on 10 million population cap amid record immigration surge



(IMO, a great move, Reform UK should cap the UK's population at 45 million)


Two men jailed for combined total of 63 years for plotting mass shooting against Jews




Man who stabbed soldier multiple times outside barracks in 'day of the devil' attack sentenced to hospital order




Ousted top civil servant handed £260k payout after Keir Starmer overrides Whitehall protests




Green Party 'reported to counter-terror police by internal whistleblower over extremism fears'




Union chief calls for Angela Rayner to replace Keir Starmer amid Reform landslide fears




Delayed local elections could be FORCED to go ahead as Tories urged to back high-stakes 'fatal motion'


 
Politics LIVE: Labour MP regrets NOT rebelling against Keir Starmer on Palestine Action vote as group wins court appeal on terror ban
Oh for fuck's sake.

The Home Office’s decision to ban Palestine Action under terrorism legislation was unlawful, the High Court has ruled in a humiliating blow for the government that could lead to the collapse of hundreds of criminal prosecutions against supporters of the group.

Huda Ammori, co-founder of the group, celebrated a “monumental victory” on Friday after Justice Victoria Sharp said that the proscription of Palestine Action was “disproportionate”, and that it “did result in a very significant interference with the right to freedom of speech and the right to freedom of assembly”.

Three senior judges concluded that only a very small number of Palestine Action’s activities amounted to terrorism, and that the group’s acts had not crossed the high bar to make it a terrorist organisation.


The ban remains in place for now and the government has said it will appeal, but the Metropolitan Police said officers would no longer arrest people simply for showing support for Palestine Action and will instead “focus on gathering evidence of those offences...to provide opportunities for enforcement at a later date”. They admitted that these “are unusual circumstances”.

The ruling means it is still a criminal offence to support or be a member of Palestine Action, punishable by up to 14 years in prison. Since the proscription last July, thousands of people have been arrested for holding up placards in support of the group.


Lawyers for Ms Ammori and the Home Office have till the 20 February to provide further submissions to the court ahead of more hearings that will decide whether the ban should be lifted, and whether the case will head to the Court of Appeal.


As news came through of the judges’ decision on Friday morning, about a hundred people gathered outside the Royal Courts of Justice building in central London started cheering and chanting “Free Palestine”.

In their judgement, Dame Victoria Sharp, Mr Justice Swift and Mrs Justice Steyn described Palestine Action as a group that “promotes its political cause through criminality and encouragement of criminality”, but said that criminal law is sufficient to prosecute these acts.

The Independent revealed yesterday that the Home Office has spent £700,000 in legal fees so far fighting Ms Ammori’s case.

Then-home secretary Yvette Cooper took the decision to ban the group under terror laws after activists broke into an RAF base and damaged two military aircraft. The High Court judges said in their ruling that Ms Cooper had failed to consider whether imposing a terror ban on Palestine Action was “proportionate” to the threat posed by the organisation. Justice Sharp wrote that, by doing this, Ms Cooper had made a “significant” error by failing to follow the Home Office’s own policy on proscription.

The High Court judges suggested in the ruling that “the strength of the case for proscription may need to considered further by the home secretary”.


Huda Ammori, co-founder of Palestine Action, in 2021 (Peace Pledge Union/YouTube)
During the court case, Ms Ammori’s lawyers insisted that Palestine Action does not advocate for violence, saying any examples of serious violence against property or person “are not the norm, they are rare”.


Ms Ammori responded to the news on Friday, saying that the ruling was a “monumental victory for both our fundamental freedoms here in Britain and in the struggle for freedom for the Palestinian people”.

She added: “It would be profoundly unjust for the government to try to delay or stop the High Court’s proposed order quashing this ban while the futures of these thousands of people hang in the balance, many of whom are elderly or disabled and facing up to 14 years’ imprisonment for this entirely peaceful protest.”

More than 2,000 people have been arrested for holding signs since the ban took affect and nearly 700 people have been charged with a terrorism offence for supporting Palestine Action, although no-one has yet been convicted.

Home secretary Shabana Mahmood said she was “disappointed” by the High Court’s ruling, adding: “I intend to fight this judgement in the Court of Appeal.”


Shadow home secretary Chris Philp welcomed the decision to appeal, saying Palestine Action’s campaign was “built on intimidation, destruction, and violence.”

Outside of the Royal Courts of Justice, there was confusion between Metropolitan Police officers and activists as dozens of people carried signs that read “I oppose genocide, I support Palestine Action”.

Activist Grace Lally asked two liaison officers if it was illegal to hold the sign, with the officers replying: “We can ask”.

People charged with supporting the group said they feel in “limbo” after the High Court decision. Angie Zelter, 74, said she faces charges over holding a placard at demonstrations last year and is due at Westminster Magistrates’ Court on Tuesday.


She said the situation is “up in the air”, adding: “We don’t really know where we are”.

Akiko Hart, director of human rights organisation Liberty, said they welcomed the court’s finding but said “the practical effect will depend on the government’s appeal”.

Lui Asquith, associate in the public law team at law firm Russell-Cooke, said, while routine, the ruling was “an oddity” as “the rights-infringing proscription stands until the court stays otherwise”. She explained that the Home Office could argue for the ban to remain in place for longer until the appeal is heard.

Amanda Weston KC, a member of the Independent Commission on UK Counter-Terrorism Law, Policy and Practice, said the ruling was a “solid judgment” which will be difficult to appeal. However, until a decision to quash the ban is decided, it leaves matters “up in the air” for protesters facing prosecution for supporting Palestine Action.

Baroness Shami Chakrabarti said the judgement made clear that “the decision to proscribe the whole organisation and its many peaceful supporters was disproportionate”, adding: “Let those engaged in criminal damage be prosecuted but don’t make peaceful protestors guilty by association”.


Yasmine Ahmed, UK director of Human Rights Watch, said that the verdict was a “shot in the arm for British democracy”.

Areeba Hamid, a director at Greenpeace UK, said the government’s use of terror laws had been “the stuff of dystopian novels”. She added: “The Crown Prosecution Service should immediately drop the terror charges against the peaceful protesters who opposed this ban”.

The Board of Deputies of British Jews and the Jewish Leadership Council said they were “deeply concerned” by the High Court ruling, saying that the “practical impact of Palestine Action’s activities on Jewish communal life has been significant and deeply unsettling”.

So as long as you scream, "Free Palestine" you can demand throats be slit, assault the police with slegehammers, bellow death threats against minority groups, provide financial aid to terrorist organisations. Sure, yeah, seems logicial.
 
Well if it's just a small amount of terrorism, then we can let it slide. It's just a teeny tiny amount of terrorism. I suppose we can now form radical groups as long as our terrorism is kept to small amounts?

How about a Nationalist march where no terrorism happens, can we do that?
'It's only a bit of terrorism, it's still good.'

Now watch NA and their goons go feral - all with the blessing of never here Keir.
 
It's only a bit of terrorism, it's still good.'
Quality Simpsons quoting. 10/10

I was thinking along the lines of Ms Doyle from Father Ted.
"Ah go on now, you know you want to over-rule"
"No, I don't"
"Ah of course you do, it's just a little bit of terrorism. A teeny, tiny little bit of terrorism."
 
His nibs and I were talking about this last week. He bought a packet of fruit jelly sweet from coop and they were foul. They taste almost floury and had a consistency like what I imagine wallpaper paste does. Turns out they're vegan now and have potato starch in.

The reason we use gelatin is cos it's a biological product and it's semi liquid at body temperature which is who you get that lovely gooey feeling from stuff with it in.

If vegans want to do that, I don't care but I'm sick of having their slop sneaked into everything.
Have you tried Percy Pigs these days? they made them vegan and now they're like eating styrofoam.
So as long as you scream, "Free Palestine" you can demand throats be slit, assault the police with slegehammers, bellow death threats against minority groups, provide financial aid to terrorist organisations. Sure, yeah, seems logicial.
I'm honestly more worried about the ramifications for domestic security that come from this. We're supposed to be gearing up for a war with the Russians and we're allowing what is essentially sabotage of defence industry and the Defence Estate. Both the Russians and Iranians put a heavy emphasis on manipulating political groups for their own ends. Letting people get away with sabotage because it's a politically correct cause is going to come back to bite the UK government big time.
 
They've all gone this way. Fruit Pastels of the Rowntree variety are mushy, instead of chewy. You used to able to suck on them badboys like an old lass with a Fox's Glacier mint.

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PSA!

I have found, and reported, more and more items out of date at my local supermarket. I'm talking prawns up to a week old, still displayed for someone to buy. I'm a stickler and check the dates of bloody everything (Including the jelly I bought) but some of the items I've seen out of date by more than a day:

Fresh chicken
Sandwiches
Prawns
Fresh Fish
Milk
Fridge raiders chicken pieces
Chicken bits (meal deal snack).

Please. Check the dates on your produce!
Part of this is because stock rotation and re-stocking is no longer done at night. Staff doing the yellow label rounds have to run the gauntlet of people trying to fight for reduced stuff and they're now constantly putting away deliveries in the day time because it's cheaper to do this and expect day staff to multitask than it is to employ night workers decorated solely to deliveries,stock rotation and deep cleaning as they're going.

I know I bang on about it but this penny pinching by big supermarkets is having a huge knock on effect in stores in terms of safety, both with OOD food and the physical clusterfuck it is trying to get about when the aisles are littered with cages. I cannot emphasise enough how much of a gigantic dick move it is by supermarkets, whose profit margins are already through the fucking roof.

It is, to me at any rate one of the biggest markers of the rampant enshittification of this country and it's only a matter of time before a kid has a serious accident involving a fully laden stock cage.
 
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