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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Fucks sake though. I'm back in work tonight and have to go to sleep in a bit so if he goes today (will he? Won't he? What do people think?) I'll be asleep and will miss it.

On the one hand there's no good replacement for him but on the other, I want to see Thatcher-style tears. I want to see him humiliated and I want him to lose the only thing he wants.


@Brumbletroons: I can't stand niggers but this dude is on Africa where he belongs and his reaction when he realises what he's done is hilarious.
 
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Lammy is on record saying he genuinely believes tranny men can grow cervixes and he believes removing jury trials are mandated by his booga booga spear chucking interpretation of Christianity.
For posterity.



I honestly go back and forth on whether this is worse than when he said Henry VII succeeded Henry VIII. So far he's failed biology and maths. I'm just waiting for someone to ask him a chemistry question next.

A little diversion away from the insanity of politics for a moment.
Is anyone else getting bombarded with wuthering heights propaganda? It’s everywhere. Now don’t get me wrong, it’s a fantastic book, all the characters are hideous, tale of obsession and madness, I’m all for it, and I’m a sucker for a good costume drama but the marketing for this is just bizarre. Anachronistic costumes and the (clearly done for the publicity) insinuations of an affair between the two main characters.
I guess this is life now. The algo identifies you as female and serves you the appropriate slop.
I loved Wuthering Heights. Wonderful book (and someone I dated once compared me to Heathcliff which gave me some pause for thought). What really blew me away when I heard about the movie was that Margot Robbie was casting herself as Catherine Earnshaw! It's a long time since I read it but I think her character is around 16? Maybe even 15? She's this wild, waifish girl, dark-haired as well I think. Margot Robbie is 36, pneumatic and blonde and looks like she just stepped of a surfboard in Bondi Beach. Never mind Cathy's ghost, it's Emily Bronte's we'll hear wailing at the window when she learns about this.
 
It’s everywhere.
They want it to be the THING OF NOW. Young peoples culture is so fucking homogenous, people are into ONE THING at a time and its always that ONE THING; Ie Arcane, Spiderverse, Doechii, Pitt, Bridgeton, whatever trendy slop TV Film Music whatever!!! They want WH to be the new Barbie that everyone talks about and obsesses about, but forget its ditched within a month for the next new thing to show that You are cool/trendy/in touch/have good taste.
The New Thing dominates every social, but is gone just as quickly, even now ""analogue hobbies"" are trending because people are complaining about taste/fandom being all the Same and online everyones making their videos about crocheting and painting and reading again!!!!
As a bitch in politics, trains, and only 20th C lit, its exhausting. No one has true and honest taste unique to themselves anymore! Theres no more cliques or subcultures or anything and its all Yank Slop pushed by socials. Rant over :(
ETA because rant not over, even our politics are the thing of Now; which is the ICE immigration stuff, which all my UK political adjacent mates are talking about. None of them had a clue about the Green slavery arrest, 15 U Turns, the Met Police beating pro-Shah protesters, or even Mandelson and the 2024 elections, Mandelson and Brown, former Prince Andrews new information, nothing! To be Political is to be served the new Yank Issues even though we are British. Even young british conservatives get the yankee online Now Culture (Clavicular had a moment everywhere). People just take on what they are served
 
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RE: This 'destroying' Batty boy Kier. I am ALL IN on nothing happening. We may get some token resignations or firing, but Starmer himself and his demon cotiere are staying put. There are no rules to our modern politics, it is power for the sake of power and he's not letting it go. I bet another Warwick Davis apprectaion thread on it.
 
They want it to be the THING OF NOW. Young peoples culture is so fucking homogenous, people are into ONE THING at a time and its always that ONE THING; Ie Arcane, Spiderverse, Doechii, Pitt, Bridgeton, whatever trendy slop TV Film Music whatever!!! They want WH to be the new Barbie that everyone talks about and obsesses about, but forget its ditched within a month for the next new thing to show that You are cool/trendy/in touch/have good taste.
The New Thing dominates every social, but is gone just as quickly, even now ""analogue hobbies"" are trending because people are complaining about taste/fandom being all the Same and online everyones making their videos about crocheting and painting and reading again!!!!
As a bitch in politics, trains, and only 20th C lit, its exhausting. No one has true and honest taste unique to themselves anymore! Theres no more cliques or subcultures or anything and its all Yank Slop pushed by socials. Rant over :(
ETA because rant not over, even our politics are the thing of Now; which is the ICE immigration stuff, which all my UK political adjacent mates are talking about. None of them had a clue about the Green slavery arrest, 15 U Turns, the Met Police beating pro-Shah protesters, or even Mandelson and the 2024 elections, Mandelson and Brown, former Prince Andrews new information, nothing! To be Political is to be served the new Yank Issues even though we are British. Even young british conservatives get the yankee online Now Culture (Clavicular had a moment everywhere). People just take on what they are served
A factor in this is that for many people the purpose of knowing these things is to appear knowledgeable and to appear part of the group. They want to be able to tell someone else the new information or not be on the backfoot when someone tells it to them. They also want to be able to agree and nod and be part of the group. Notice how much of a bonding and social cohesion ritual agreeing on the latest thing is.

Put all that together, and people just want to consume the latest information in order to regurgitate it. They, especially younger people, want to be Part of Current Thing.

Even if Current Thing is something as bad as a Margot Robbie adaptation of Wuthering Heights. Note, she doesn't just star in it. Her own production company is behind it. Lets also add that THIS is Edgar Linton in the movie (the actor is Shazad Latif).

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And THIS is archetypal Yorkshire woman, Nelly Dean (the actress is Hong Chau):
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Notice how much of a bonding and social cohesion ritual agreeing on the latest thing is.
Oh I agree that we have always wanted to 'be in the know' but there's a huge culture shift that EVERYONE knows the same thing. It used to be fun at parties to introduce people to new music or films or learn and talk about what they listen to and watch or do, and now everyone watches the same thing and listens to the same thing and does the same thing. It's way more copy paste and we make fun of it (lads joke about how every girl watches the f1 on sundays with a roast) but no one seeks out their own interests, if they are capable of having any anymore. There's no more interesting unique people, everyone has ADHD and is loving or hating on Wuthering Heights (also the trend cycles are SO much shorter, the Pitt went from crazy loved and popular online to finding out the Noah guy was a racist and hates women and loves Israel within a month. Stranger Things is dead. etc etc)

James Evans defecting to Reform, Dan Thomas is the leader of Reform UK Wales. Starmer is 'sorry' he believed Mandelson's ''lies''.
 
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RE: This 'destroying' Batty boy Kier. I am ALL IN on nothing happening. We may get some token resignations or firing, but Starmer himself and his demon cotiere are staying put. There are no rules to our modern politics, it is power for the sake of power and he's not letting it go. I bet another Warwick Davis apprectaion thread on it.
I just can't see the people who are actually running things (morgan macsweeney et al) allowing Lammy or Rayner to become PM. It simply can't happen. Starmer is awful, but someone like Lammy would utterly destroy the country.

Starmer has at least somehow been ok with international relations. Can you imagine Rayner or Lammy dealing with Trump/Putin/Xi etc?

Also, here's another possibility that is sure to horrify you. What if Miliband becomes PM?
 
I hate Lammy. He's a breathy melanin gobshite from the same mold as Dianne Abbott.
Dianne Abbott used to be intelligent, she managed to get into Cambridge despite working class parents.
But decades of diabetes-addled fat laziness in a safe seat led to her becoming the woman she is today.

Lammy on the other hand, well, I'm amazed someone as dumb as him remembers to breathe. I'm tempted to change my boomerbook status to "a monkey is running the zoo" but I don't want the internet police to die of laughter. He has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
 
I just can't see the people who are actually running things (morgan macsweeney et al) allowing Lammy or Rayner to become PM. It simply can't happen. Starmer is awful, but someone like Lammy would utterly destroy the country.

Starmer has at least somehow been ok with international relations. Can you imagine Rayner or Lammy dealing with Trump/Putin/Xi etc?

Also, here's another possibility that is sure to horrify you. What if Miliband becomes PM?
Just seen McSweeney has got Starmer to make a big "apology" speech for the Mandelson situation.

Really pulling out all the stops now.

These people want Starmer in until 2029.
 
RE: This 'destroying' Batty boy Kier. I am ALL IN on nothing happening. We may get some token resignations or firing, but Starmer himself and his demon cotiere are staying put. There are no rules to our modern politics, it is power for the sake of power and he's not letting it go. I bet another Warwick Davis apprectaion thread on it.
He won't resign he has no need to.
If the boy hungry mincing pedophile lied to Starmer, which of course he did, his whole career is scandals and lying, the Starmer has no reason to quit.

I'm guessing that's why all of the documents will be handed over to parliament, so that Starmer can show them and say "see, I had no idea!". Plausible deniability.

And IF starmer were to go there are two candidates for PM; Suckdick Khan and Sheboon Mahmood.
 
A little diversion away from the insanity of politics for a moment.
Is anyone else getting bombarded with wuthering heights propaganda? It’s everywhere. Now don’t get me wrong, it’s a fantastic book, all the characters are hideous, tale of obsession and madness, I’m all for it, and I’m a sucker for a good costume drama but the marketing for this is just bizarre. Anachronistic costumes and the (clearly done for the publicity) insinuations of an affair between the two main characters.
I guess this is life now. The algo identifies you as female and serves you the appropriate slop.
I wouldn't call it propoganda, it's just hit the perfect 'crossover episode' levels of marketing as there's the standard Hollywood marketing for the movie, it's an all star cast, it's based on a very popular book and they've got Charli XCX (at her popular peak) to score the soundtrack. It's very similar to the mega hype the Barbie movie got for similar reasons if you replace the book with a popular toy line.

Every now and again Hollywood tries an 'all in' and either it makes absolutely billions and is seen as a huge cultural movie OR it does alright I guess and is almost immedately forgotten about (like Leo's Great Gatsby, or that Nosferatu remake)

Chances are I'll go see it for the hype because fuck it, I like seeing these big movies because Barbie was unironically great (for all the wrong reasons) and even if it's dogshit I get to rant about it.

Also doubleposting but whatever, SHOULD Starmer go then do you think it's likely they'll try and poach Corbyn with the promise of leadership? It'd immediately change the public perception of the Labour party (as Wes Streeting or Angela Raynor would be seen as literally more of the same) and Corbyn would be basically given his shot at power in a situation where it literally cannot get any worse for the Labour party. Worst case scenario Labour continue to plummet and rank 4th (or worse) in the elections, best case is that he turns it around to be the opposition at the very least while they find a candidate worthy of replacing him?

Who am I kidding, it'll go to Raynor, Lammy or Ed Milliband.
 
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It's always funny whenever I see the argument of "even if we DO have the death penalty, we wouldn't be able to find ANYONE capable of hanging them"

I'd pull forty levers an hour for minimum wage, and if there's not enough of me then you can always get SERCO to hire some nigger to press a button.
Who wouldn’t want to do this? You could auction off the opportunity for charity: “Pay 50 Pounds to Kill a Paedo, all proceeds to Children’s Charity.”
 
they've got Charli XCX (at her popular peak) to score the soundtrack.
I have no idea who this is and just looked them up. It’s just… wrong.

Nelly dean should be some hard bitten Yorkshire woman. Linton should be some slightly effete distant Yorkshire minor nobility. Margot Robbie is fine in other stuff but she isn’t Cathy Earnshaw. Cathy is tiny and brunette and absolutely awful. Heathcliffe should be tall and dark and brooding. He goes from being badly treated to also being absolutely awful.
Wuthering Heights is a great book. This just looks like bridgerton casting meets chic flick on drugs.
Bring back merchant ivory, is what I’m saying.
A factor in this is that for many people the purpose of knowing these things is to appear knowledgeable and to appear part of the group. They want to be able to tell someone else the new information or not be on the backfoot when someone tells it to them. They also want to be able to agree and nod and be part of the group. Notice how much of a bonding and social cohesion ritual agreeing on the latest thing is.
Yeah, I think this is true. All the kids look the same and like the same stuff. It’s so very boring, and their opinions are programmed I to them wholesale.
Wuthering Heights the musical is worth watching. Cliff Richard playing Heathcliff is hysterical.
More hilariously awful casting
 
It's the Hollywood reimagining of remakes, the marketing makes this look like it's 50 Shades of Grey instead of some quaint but complicaated love story.
But it doesn’t need all that. It’s not a terribly quaint story. It genuinely is ‘everyone involved is utterly awful and over dramatic and hideous.’
 
Also doubleposting but whatever, SHOULD Starmer go then do you think it's likely they'll try and poach Corbyn with the promise of leadership? It'd immediately change the public perception of the Labour party (as Wes Streeting or Angela Raynor would be seen as literally more of the same) and Corbyn would be basically given his shot at power in a situation where it literally cannot get any worse for the Labour party.
They wont let Corbyn near the top spot because Corbyn wont behave. They need another person who'll try to pass all the crap without question which right now Starmer is doing. He knows his card is marked and is just trying to run down the clock and do as many favours as possible as he's doomed anyway.

Wuthering Heights the musical is worth watching. Cliff Richard playing Heathcliff is hysterical.
Does this musical include the Kate Bush song? I like that song but I can only imagine how bad a musical version of Wuthering Heights is.

Only work of classic literature I think they did a good musical of was Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds which has Richard Burton doing the narration and is bonkers music.

"The chances of anything coming from mars a re a million to one____ 🎶🎵"

Chances are I'll go see it for the hype because fuck it, I like seeing these big movies because Barbie was unironically great (for all the wrong reasons) and even if it's dogshit I get to rant about it.
I like you so I will suppress my dismay at anyone putting any money into their pockets for this abomination. Hopefully your contribution is not enough to tip it over into being any kind of success. This film has an R rating in the US apparently. And pre-sales indicate it's going to have a strong opening weekend.

You may find yourself having to insist loudly that you're there ironically.

Margot Robbie is fine in other stuff but she isn’t Cathy Earnshaw. Cathy is tiny and brunette and absolutely awful. Heathcliffe should be tall and dark and brooding. He goes from being badly treated to also being absolutely awful.
Going to have to disagree with you there, Otters. I don't think Margot Robbie is fine in other stuff, either. I've never liked her in anything. Closest was in the Tonya Harding biopic and she was way too old for that role as well, trying to play a teenager when she was 27.

Did you marry her sister or something?
Come to think of it, I did chat her sister up at a party! I'd forgotten about that. But I'm fairly sure it was nothing to do with that.

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It's the Hollywood reimagining of remakes, the marketing makes this look like it's 50 Shades of Grey instead of some quaint but complicaated love story.
It doesn't make it look like it's 50 Shades of Grey. They have made it 50 Shades of Grey (from what I've heard).
 
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