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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

cannot remember any of the boys being creepy or pervy

well of course welshie, your kind aren't known for flirting with human women!

 

[Otterly]

his lad (who I smashed)

I think the exact meaning of smashed needs to be clarified here…

 

[CaptainAutism69]

I think the exact meaning of smashed needs to be clarified here…

No...we all know what it means...and it explains why he behaves like a faggot when upset

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

But there's something peculiarly pornified about trying to get a camera up a girl's skirt to film that angle. It's very fetishised. Both the filming aspect and the specifics. It's the voyeuristic nature of it, not wanting to do something with a girl so much as gather photos and clips or humiliation / creep stuff.

While I would not normally use the word "objectifying" since it very much has grown over-used here is it is entirely appropriate, it's the actions of people with very superficial interest towards those they are targeting.

I think the exact meaning of smashed needs to be clarified here…

Given how determined Made always is when it comes to standing by his man I think the meaning is exceedingly clear.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

Personally I want Starmer to stay in power for as long as possible. I want to see them go from the incumbant party to 4th or 5th place in the next general election and anyone else has a chance of turning it around.

As we saw from PMQs, he's absolutely incapable of real debate and being put on the spot. Farage would absolutely cremate him in debates.

Keeping Starmer in power is the best chance that the labour party have of recovering.
They keep Starmer in place to announce unpopular bills, laws and bollocks, and then jettison him in 2028, saying that the labour party has changed. Here are some semi-decent bills, a couple of tax drops and a 'desire' to slash VAT (for example) which rolls into 2029.
They run on a platform of VAT slashing and get voted backin.





Does anyone else feel that 2029 is much further away that it feels? 2020 to 2024 went like zip, whoosh, it's gone. 3 years to 2029 feels like decades

 

[A-Logato]

So at this point there is no argument against the fact that Labour is the party of nonces? Connections to Jewish, Muslim and Christian nonces, all we need now is a high profile Hindu and a sheikh and we've got the full set.

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

It used to be that someone would run up to a girl and flip their skirt up as a laugh. Or pull someone's trousers down.

That was acceptable up to the age of 7 or 47 if you’re David Williams.

 

[Carpe Jugulum]

Both Boys and Girls will have to wear trousers

I’m from a time where us girls were forced to wear skirts to school or a hideous summer dress if it was hot enough.

We were also subjected to gym slips and knicker shorts (these were the most uncomfortable things ever).

I would have liked a choice. I kinda feel like I’d feel the same now if I was that age but we also live in clown world so I honestly don’t know.

 

[Otterly]

We were also subjected to gym slips and knicker shorts (these were the most uncomfortable things ever).

Ha! Navy knickers under ridiculously short netball skirts. Even at the time I thought that was insane. You had to wear these netball skirts for gym that barely covered your arse and then because that was bad you had to wear the navy knickers under them. Make it make sense… we should have been allowed to wear sensible shorts, leggings or joggers.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

Being friends with a nonce has never been a problem in British politics. If it was all of them would be sacked for knowing each other. As horrific as it is people need to accept that British politicians are nonce friendly, they do abuse children themselves or hang around with people who do and protect them. They are pro-pedo and will destroy your life if you try to get justice for the kiddies. Like Jimmy, they're national treasures and too culturally important to let a little thing like some raped children get in the way.

The powers that be will wait until you're dead before airing out your noncery as was the case for Cyril Smith MBE. "oops, the inquiry says he should've been charged 40 years ago for raping and beating boys but he's dead now". so there's no hope that a friend to nonces would face any reprecussions.

its not just pedophilia that's guarded, as far as i know, no one in charge of the horizon IT scandal was ever punished either. convictions were overturned but the damage done.

 

[Carpe Jugulum]

we should have been allowed to wear sensible shorts, leggings or joggers.

Eventually I rebelled and wore cycling shorts under my skirt and gym slip.

I think I got away with it because a) they were too busy sending home/suspending the one lassie that would dare to come to school in trousers b) I competed for the school.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

That was acceptable up to the age of 7 or 47 if you’re David Williams.

He hosted some awful computer game program on sky one. I watched an episode recently and it was painful.

Ha! Navy knickers under ridiculously short netball skirts. Even at the time I thought that was insane. You had to wear these netball skirts for gym that barely covered your arse and then because that was bad you had to wear the navy knickers under them. Make it make sense… we should have been allowed to wear sensible shorts, leggings or joggers.

Girls have to wear short shorts for PE. I don't know why but it's the rules. Boys wear football shorts 1 size too small that only reach mid thigh. They're both uncomfortable and bloody cold in the winter, but these prepare you for life post school.

I'm going to make a very controversial statement here and I may have to join labour. Teenage me would have loved to have seen a lass in her underwear. Probably bra rather than knickers but I wouldn't have been picky. As far as I can tell it's all normal teenage behaviour but now everyone has a camera. Lads want to see the lasses in the nuddy and lasses want to feel mature and not like awkward spotty little mingers. The problem is it's now recorded and Angela having her skirt lifted up by her mates is now all over.. discord? Snapchat? God knows. So it goes from 10 seconds of embarrassment to months or years or being passed around.

As a bit of a rant. I was listening to a medical podcast earlier, one that gets a government grant and it got my back up. It's been on the decline for a while now and gender issues have started to creep in. The usual Muh marginalised communities shit, girls are all big victims of the medical industry. You know the type. I reached my breaking point when they're discussing how social scenarios can worsen medical conditions. After 10 minutes of a clearly autistic woman talking about how people smile and look confident when they do well, it moved onto children's conditions. How does it effect boys, girls, no binaries and trans children. I immediately ditched that shit. Government funding is still going to this crap. I could power level about something a close friend heard recently. But I won't go into too much detail. Lets just say the freaks are losing funding and people are no longer attending their diversity courses. They're trying to brow beat them more and it's still failing. But they just hired a new queer diversity educator. Fresh from Jamaica with no skills and he's getting £150,000 a year to give talks on being a gay nigger. All he has to do is turn up to a business once a week and talk to 5 people (if they turn up) and he makes that. No skills, no talent. Just said he was some form of gay and autistic or whatever the gender shit is referred to today. No matter how hard you work, the government is importing foreigners and giving them triple the national wage to say "I am a foreigner, worship me". We should have nuked them when they tried to make a bob sleigh team.

 

[Otterly]

I'm going to make a very controversial statement here and I may have to join labour. Teenage me would have loved to have seen a lass in her underwear. Probably bra rather than knickers but I wouldn't have been picky

I dont think that’s anything other than just how teenage boys are. That’s natural. It’s the pornified filming behaviour that’s not. There’s a big difference between the two
I’ll say as well that no boys tried any skirt lifting at our school. They’d have had some serious punishment if they did. And then they’d have had to face their parents. It just didn’t happen.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Decided to catch up on PMQs. Kemi putting that big black karen energy to good use. Starmer looked pissed. Genuinely angry. I think it's the first time I've seen any real emotion from the man. Reeves next to him looked like she'd been replaced with a waxworks dummy. Keir knows he's cooked this time, though whether he'll fall on his sword or try to battle it out is anyone's guess.

Back benchers are out for blood, it seems. That'll be interesting.

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Sad news, lads and ladettes. John Virgo has potted his last black.

 

[Harold Godwinson]

Teenagers are dumb, always have been. I was dumb as a teenager and you were too. It’s society that’s changed

I’m gonna agree with you here Otterly.

Spoiler: Anecdotal Spergery

I was a year or two in to secondary just as teenagers went from having nokia bricks to early smartphones and having their own PCs, and kids started getting online in the way they are currently. It was really obvious kids who grew up maybe using a computer to play Microsoft Pinball and messing around in MS Paint has suddenly had access, as they hit puberty, to massive amounts of hardcore porn and had their brains rotted by it.

Suddenly, you’d be sexually harassed every day and upskirting was common. Boys watching mega dwarf triple penetration ebony gangbang porn loud in the classroom on their phone phone before the teacher came in. In what world should 12/13 year old boys be circling you at lunch guessing how many cocks you could take in a gang bang or debate like you’re not there on whether you have dick-sucking lips or not. Maybe I’m not expressing how disgusting and ever-present it was but it was bad man, like nigga when it started I was so young I hadn’t even started my period yet.

I’ll say I wasn’t exactly a cool kid at school, and only really wore shitty baggy school trousers until our uniform changed. I never thought much of it, just came to school, did work, talked to my friends, went home, until I heard that the boys were gossiping that I had a big arse and I was probably really good at anal. That was death of innocence in a way, I didn’t realise people could stare at me like that until then, I’m sure other girls felt the same.

Of course, this was kinda the early days of the normie internet, so teachers didn’t know about shit like that and you didn’t really wanna repeat that shit to old Mrs. Henderson. Later I did get dragged to the office because I pushed over and stamped on a boy for upskirting me, it was brushed off as a “oh, you kids are just having a scrap again”.

I mean, you can say “oh girls dress like sluts so they deserve it” but 1. okay, weird thing to say, and 2. people like attention, and teenagers are gonna be rebellious. It feels nice when you’re a dumb teenager that the boys think you’re pretty or stare at you, but your frontal lobe develops when you leave school and you’re disgusted and feel like you definitely tempted fate. Sure, boys might have a peek at the girl who had big boobs for her age, or stare during P.E. - I’m not suggesting teenage boys can’t be teenage boys, but this was beyond the pale.

I’ll go out on a limb and say I’m probably one of the youngest farmers on this board, and that’s how it was when I was a teenager - I can’t imagine how it is nowadays where arguably even more options for brain-rotting porn and harassment are available, kids are getting online earlier, and brownoid kids who already think girls are inferior sex slaves because of their third world parents are exploding in population.

Maybe the novelty of online porn has worn off and it’s not as in your face as it used to be and more a fact of life, maybe my school just had a particular problem with it, idk. But I guarantee plenty of adults my age, and even kids nowadays have stories of harassment like this. It’s definitely a societal/cultural thing imo.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Suddenly, you’d be sexually harassed every day and upskirting was common. Boys watching mega dwarf triple penetration ebony gangbang porn loud in the classroom on their phone phone before the teacher came in. In what world should 12/13 year old boys be circling you at lunch guessing how many cocks you could take in a gang bang or debate like you’re not there on whether you have dick-sucking lip or not. Maybe I’m not expressing how disgusting and ever-present it was but it was bad man, like nigga when it started I was so young I hadn’t even started my period yet.

This is what teenage boys do when they're alone, it's what men often do as well. Men behaving badly and bottom (God I'm old) are some what accurate portrayals of how crass and crude men can be. They talk about women as if they're utterly slags and they would bang the family dog if given half a chance. A bunch of men watching a movie together with a nice lass in it will turn crude very very quickly. "I'd give her one" is the start of it.. Doing it in public is weird and I've noticed that as well. Like back in the day people wouldn't talk about their weird fetish stuff. Now you hear teenage boys talking about vtubers and other weird hentai stuff in public. It's that indoor/outdoor voice filter that's missing.

When I went to school I can remember boys being dared to pull someone's trousers down or flip a skirt up. It was especially bad if you had 1 girl among a group of boys. They would egg each other on to impress the girl and that's when they become dangerous rather than just dumb kids. It wasn't sexual, it was young bravado and seeing what you could get away with. Back in my day it wasn't considered some serious sexual assault kind of situation. If the girl complained the teacher would have a word with you, your parents would be told and it was done with. Might get a weeks grounding for it and everyone moved on. And that would have been very extreme. Normally everyone pointed, laughed and by the end of lunch it was forgotten.

It has probably become worse for teenage boys since porn is on phones now. Back in my day someone would get round the firewall and you would end up with gore sites or porn. It didn't really effect our sex lives (like we had much of one). I think shows like Jackass did more damage because it encouraged idiots to injure themselves.

 

[Sheep King]

This is kind of what I was getting at. Boys like girls. Simple enough. But there's something peculiarly pornified about trying to get a camera up a girl's skirt to film that angle. It's very fetishised. Both the filming aspect and the specifics. It's the voyeuristic nature of it, not wanting to do something with a girl so much as gather photos and clips or humiliation / creep stuff. Other things feel more like natural instinct, welcome or not whilst this specific action feels more like their brain is still on the Internet even whilst out in the real world.

I don't know.

I think it's the sense of dehumanisation. Before porn became so widely available the ultimate wet dream at 14-15 for most boys is, or was, kissing a girl with big knockers and everything after that was practically Lovecraftian knowlege. The internet and media in general has created this weird expectation of permissiveness among young people that objectifying someone is just something that happens in degrees, like you can be half-objectified before putting your foot down. You can't really teach respect for women when boys think posting a girl's privates on social media is normal.

 

[A-Logato]

Decided to catch up on PMQs. Kemi putting that big black karen energy to good use. Starmer looked pissed. Genuinely angry. I think it's the first time I've seen any real emotion from the man. Reeves next to him looked like she'd been replaced with a waxworks dummy. Keir knows he's cooked this time, though whether he'll fall on his sword or try to battle it out is anyone's guess.

Not just angry, you could see the man physically shaking and having to grip his own hand just to stop it jittering so much, never mind all the stammering he was doing. He's got no way to defend himself in this one and he knows it.

 

[LXXVII Brigade]

Simply blaming teenage girls ‘dressed like whores’ misses the point. Why are they? Why aren’t their parents refusing to let them out the door dressed like that? Why is society allowing it? Why do some boys think it’s ok to do this stuff? The answer is that multiple factors have lowered the threshold of action and changed what acceptable behaviour is.

Bit of a tangent but the overall attitude to whats acceptable to wear has changed over the years.
There is virtually no standard kept with school uniform these days. I still recall when you had to wear a shirt and tie to school not fucking white polo shirts and black trainers. School kids these days just look like bags of shite and frankly that "who gives a shit" attitude ends up following them into the classroom. It's no fucking wonder that discipline in schools has dropped massively in recent years.
Allow them to look like shite and they'll end up acting like shite.

Same thing applies outside of schools as well with all the chav tracksuits and shit you see people wearing. I think going back to ties and hats is taking it a bit far but they could at least wear a pair of jeans for fucks sake.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Pictures from a historic archive. I'm sure all these boys had pictures of naked chicks on the wall because they respected their opinion. Probably would have wanted to engage with them in deep conversation and wanted to discuss the meaning of life. Or men are dumb animals and they really like tits. Everything attached to them is secondary. FHM magazine used to sell like hot cakes during the lad culture years and I don't think any of the women in that were good at conversation. Basically just spank fodder and we were honest about that and didn't whinge "she's being objectified" when she took her pay check home.