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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[teriyakiburns]

He did not admit this when he sacked Mandelson last year.

Christ. It's never the crime that does in a PM, but always the cover-up.

 

[Made In Wales]

Apparently, Starmer 'knows nothing' - where have I heard that line before?

https://www.facebook.com/reel/4698373477052353/?s=single_unit

Interesting story from South Wales, where a Secondary School (Brynteg Comprehensive School in Bridgend) is rolling out a new uniform policy from September:

Both Boys and Girls will have to wear trousers.

This is to 'stop the upskirting' of girls and to make them feel safe and included.

I'm on the fence with this one - yes, pupil safety is important and (old fart 'Norm's The Name' alert) some of the skirts worn by girls today could in fact double as belts.. but... shouldn't it be up to boys (at least I hope it's just the boys) to not upskirt the girls.

I went to a Secondary School where girls wore skirts and the last thing the lads would think of is looking up them - just what the hell is up with those who do that?

Opinions on this welcome.

 

[Special spoonie]

I know the rainbows are coming but i reckon we are getting a resignation before long. All the journos are talking about backbench rebellions. But this one can’t really be buried or excused this time or they also will look like nonce apologists. The question is who is going to scramble to have a go at replacing him. Also not forgetting that Streeting also defended Mandy. That will go well…

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

Opinions on this welcome.

Pornography and EPI rotting the brains of boys and no fathers beating the fuck outta them for disrespecting their peers and taking their phones away. I assume some welsh choir boys are also involved

Swarthy Carl is placing his bets on future Epstein files revealing Epstein controlled the Labour party; Mandelson was involved in picking up to 25% of all Labour candidates for 2024.
If and when a list of MPs selected by Mandelson come out, they will have no choice but to resign imho.

 

[LXXVII Brigade]

I know the rainbows are coming but i reckon we are getting a resignation before long. All the journos are talking about backbench rebellions. But this one can’t really be buried or excused this time or they also will look like nonce apologists. The question is who is going to scramble to have a go at replacing him. Also not forgetting that Streeting also defended Mandy. That will go well…

Genuinely good question on this thread for a change. Who the fuck would replace Starmer?
Lammy?
Thieves?
Ed Baconroll?

If it does come to Starmer being ousted before the GE I see no way that the successor is not just as bad if not worse than Starmer and that frankly is terrifying.

 

[Unyielding Stupidity]

Interesting story from South Wales, where a Secondary School (Brynteg Comprehensive School in Bridgend) is rolling out a new uniform policy from September:

Both Boys and Girls will have to wear trousers.

This is to 'stop the upskirting' of girls and to make them feel safe and included.

I'm on the fence with this one - yes, pupil safety is important and (old fart 'Norm's The Name' alert) some of the skirts worn by girls today could in fact double as belts.. but... shouldn't it be up to boys (at least I hope it's just the boys) to not upskirt the girls.

I went to a Secondary School where girls wore skirts and the last thing the lads would think of is looking up them - just what the hell is up with those who do that?

Opinions on this welcome.

It's probably the unspoken reason that a decent amount of teenage girls (mainly the extremely chavvy ones) have a habit of wearing extremely short skirts, and it's easier for the school's staff to just ban skirts outright than trying to enforce a mandatory minimum skirt length; can't tell you how many times in my schoolboy years we had teachers and girls getting into arguments about it. They'd never admit if that was the reason though, because people would immediately jump to allegations of misogyny if they did.

 

[diroama]

Who the fuck would replace Starmer?

Streeting is often touted as a leader in waiting.

Edit: just noticed he's been mentioned as defending Mandelson so maybe tainted by it idk

 

[Overly Serious]

Apparently, Starmer 'knows nothing' - where have I heard that line before?

https://www.facebook.com/reel/4698373477052353/?s=single_unit

Interesting story from South Wales, where a Secondary School (Brynteg Comprehensive School in Bridgend) is rolling out a new uniform policy from September:

Both Boys and Girls will have to wear trousers.

This is to 'stop the upskirting' of girls and to make them feel safe and included.

I'm on the fence with this one - yes, pupil safety is important and (old fart 'Norm's The Name' alert) some of the skirts worn by girls today could in fact double as belts.. but... shouldn't it be up to boys (at least I hope it's just the boys) to not upskirt the girls.

I went to a Secondary School where girls wore skirts and the last thing the lads would think of is looking up them - just what the hell is up with those who do that?

Opinions on this welcome.

Some problems you don't find ways to live with, you fix them. If a lad had done that to the girls at my school her boyfriend and her mates would have kicked the shit out of him after school. And if she didn't have a boyfriend the rest of us probably would have done it on her behalf anyway on the general principle that we thought he was a perve.

I don't know what about "upskirting" is so distasteful particularly. I'm not much of a prude but there's something tremendously, grossly reductive about that. It's just so porn-addled and weird of a fetish. Like flashing. That's another thing that just says "weird and creepy" about a man.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

It's probably the unspoken reason that a decent amount of teenage girls (mainly the extremely chavvy ones) have a habit of wearing extremely short skirts, and it's easier for the school's staff to just ban skirts outright than trying to enforce a mandatory minimum skirt length; can't tell you how many times in my schoolboy years we had teachers and girls getting into arguments about it. They'd never admit if that was the reason though, because people would immediately jump to allegations of misogyny if they did.

Lmao, my friends used to roll theirs up, funny stuff. We had a ban on rolling skirts up, and on trousers with the words 'JUICY' and 'BOOTY' on them. Who buys this shit for their kids?

we are getting

 

[Overly Serious]

Who the fuck would replace Starmer?
Lammy?

If David Lammy became prime minister then the first PMQs would be hysterical. It'd be "Who succeeded Henry VIII to the throne?" and "What year did Marie Antoinette with the Nobel Prize?" Someone would smuggle in the Mastermind buzzer sound on their phone and play it at the end.

Well, they would if I were an MP.

 

[Made In Wales]

If David Lammy became prime minister then the first PMQs would be hysterical. It'd be "Who succeeded Henry VIII to the throne?" and "What year did Marie Antoinette with the Nobel Prize?" Someone would smuggle in the Mastermind buzzer sound on their phone and play it at the end.

Well, they would if I were an MP.

The rainbows are mine, but I'm going to offer a slight alternative:

Starmer knows that Parliament breaks soon, and that the end of this session of Parliament is not too far away (April). He will attempt to prorogue Parliament until after Easter in order to get a new mandate to govern, possibly using the war in Ukraine in the King's Speech which is due at the start of the new Parliament and look to either quell any dissent with the threat of a GE. Obviously, he doesn't want one, but it's a trick that's worked in the past to keep rebels shushed up... whether or not it works this time around who can say?

Starmer will refuse a VONC as that means he'd lose and then the path is paved for Rayner, Burnham, Streeting or (God help us) Thieves err.. Reeves. He doesn't want anybody else to be PM - that's his toy and he's not sharing it... 'JUNGLE GYM, MINE!' (Family Guy reference).

He can only be forced out if the Government falls - if Labour cannot form a Government or coalition with other parties (and no other party would work with Starmer) then he has to go to the Palace.

Tomorrow, I'm meeting with 'the big boss' in Newport and we'll no doubt be discussing these events, and to see what our (Reform UK) plan as a party will be. We're just about ready for the Senedd battle, but should 'other plans' also happen then we need to be ready for those as well.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

I'm not feeling good, "Ukrainian rent boy."

It's so fucking Joever

Good old Pedo Pal Keir!

 

[Otterly]

He can only be forced out if the Government falls

Let’s do that then.
As for skirts, every teenage girl in England has rolled hers up to just the limit, and resented the hideous boxy blazers and shirts they were forced to wear. We were constantly having girls told off for makeup and hairspray and short skirts.
And yet I can’t remember any of the boys being a physical problem about it. I’m quite sure they were copping a discreet eyeful whenever they could but actually laying hands on a girl would have got the shit kicked out of them and they simply didn’t do it.
So something there has changed.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

I know the rainbows are coming but i reckon we are getting a resignation before long. All the journos are talking about backbench rebellions. But this one can’t really be buried or excused this time or they also will look like nonce apologists. The question is who is going to scramble to have a go at replacing him. Also not forgetting that Streeting also defended Mandy. That will go well…

I'm still waiting for all the people who covered for Jimmy Saville to have their heads roll.. oh wait sorry. My mistake. We just had a major horror movie where there's a gang of Jimmy Saville impersonators in the cinema. Seems as a culture we're quite welcoming to nonces.

It's probably the unspoken reason that a decent amount of teenage girls (mainly the extremely chavvy ones) have a habit of wearing extremely short skirts, and it's easier for the school's staff to just ban skirts outright than trying to enforce a mandatory minimum skirt length; can't tell you how many times in my schoolboy years we had teachers and girls getting into arguments about it. They'd never admit if that was the reason though, because people would immediately jump to allegations of misogyny if they did.

This is the real problem. It's not that boys are looking up girls skirts, it's that girls are dressing like prostitutes. You see kids get off the school bus with half their arse cheeks hanging out their skirts. And that's if they're not wearing camel toe leggings.

Our kids have been dressed like prostitutes and flashing their goods to the world. The only solution is to ban everything but normal school trousers. No leggings, no skirts. Trousers. And I don't blame them.

Teenage boys are also interested in seeing under girls skirts and they misbehave. Upskirting seems like an obvious thing teenage boys would get up to. It used to be that someone would run up to a girl and flip their skirt up as a laugh. Or pull someone's trousers down. Seems like the obvious evolution is to record the prank and share it around. Kids being kids + technology = sex crimes.

 

[Otterly]

This is the real problem. It's not that boys are looking up girls skirts, it's that girls are dressing like prostitutes.

The girls have always rolled their school skirts up. We did it in the eighties. I did it, and never so much as kissed a boy until I was 16. The boys at school were mainly terrified of the girls, looking back. Fair bit of banter but they never have laid a finger on us, they knew what would happen.
What’s changed is that society as a whole is far for overtly sexualised. Girls and boys are exposed to sexualised media, and porn in ways we never were. Porn has existed forever and will exist forever, but back when I was a teenager it was not a click away on a device everyone owned. The TV still had a watershed that meant something. Music videos weren’t like they are. Everything is pornified, and it’s not been good for society.
Simply blaming teenage girls ‘dressed like whores’ misses the point. Why are they? Why aren’t their parents refusing to let them out the door dressed like that? Why is society allowing it? Why do some boys think it’s ok to do this stuff? The answer is that multiple factors have lowered the threshold of action and changed what acceptable behaviour is.
Teenagers are dumb, always have been. I was dumb as a teenager and you were too. It’s society that’s changed

 

[Kofi Drinka]

The girls have always rolled their school skirts up. We did it in the eighties.

Rowling up above the knees different to today like we've discussed.

Simply blaming teenage girls ‘dressed like whores’ misses the point. Why are they? Why aren’t their parents refusing to let them out the door dressed like that? Why is society allowing it? Why do some boys think it’s ok to do this stuff? The answer is that multiple factors have lowered the threshold of action and changed what acceptable behaviour is.
Teenagers are dumb, always have been. I was dumb as a teenager and you were too. It’s society that’s changed

I completely agree and even good parents will have kids who break the rules. Society has changed and it's a serious problem. It shouldn't be normal for any one to be showing their bits off in public but it's not the default and it's disgusting.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

The girls have always rolled their school skirts up. We did it in the eighties. I did it, and never so much as kissed a boy until I was 16. The boys at school were mainly terrified of the girls, looking back.

When we rolled our skirts up (2000s) it was always uughhh stop it we don't like you!! SIRR stop them!! from the lads while we went through tat mags on how to do our hair. It was always some way to signal you were one of the girls (like fake tan, makeup, etc) rather than impressing boys, who would rather trade match attax cards and play bulldog than catch cooties from us.

John McDonnell, Labour MP, is suggesting Kier should resign.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

Personally I want Starmer to stay in power for as long as possible. I want to see them go from the incumbant party to 4th or 5th place in the next general election and anyone else has a chance of turning it around.

As we saw from PMQs, he's absolutely incapable of real debate and being put on the spot. Farage would absolutely cremate him in debates.

 

[Overly Serious]

Everything is pornified, and it’s not been good for society.

This is kind of what I was getting at. Boys like girls. Simple enough. But there's something peculiarly pornified about trying to get a camera up a girl's skirt to film that angle. It's very fetishised. Both the filming aspect and the specifics. It's the voyeuristic nature of it, not wanting to do something with a girl so much as gather photos and clips or humiliation / creep stuff. Other things feel more like natural instinct, welcome or not whilst this specific action feels more like their brain is still on the Internet even whilst out in the real world.

I don't know.

 

[Made In Wales]

When we rolled our skirts up (2000s) it was always uughhh stop it we don't like you!! SIRR stop them!! from the lads while we went through tat mags on how to do our hair. It was always some way to signal you were one of the girls (like fake tan, makeup, etc) rather than impressing boys, who would rather trade match attax cards and play bulldog than catch cooties from us.

John McDonnell, Labour MP, is suggesting Kier should resign.

Went to school in the 90s and I too cannot remember any of the boys being creepy or pervy until we got a new Headmaster - his lad (who I smashed) was known as 'the Octopus' because his 'tentacles' went everywhere. He got into trouble years later, and always thought 'Daddy' would bail him out.

Whether you were sporty, nerdy, dumb as rocks or whatever the unwritten rule was respect for all.

Some news from Wales: Senedd to spend £2.5m buying flood risk houses:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1201694932111535/?s=single_unit