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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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I'm starting to think Little Britain was just Walliams turning his diary into scripts. I swear, if Matt Lucas turns out to be a real pervert... actually I wouldn't be that surprised, but fuck if it wouldn't be annoying. That said they did fall out during the filming of little britain and haven't worked together on anything else.
I think you're safe with Georgey Doors on the scores. I can't see Mortimer, Reeves or Lamarr working with a noncey poofta and Lucas always seemed a funny eccentric than anything else. Him working on Little Britain was the perfect role and kick started his career.

That Lucas has all but withdrawn himself from the Noncenest of BBC HQ I think we're safe with him not having peccadillos of the pederasty persuasion.
 
I think you're safe with Georgey Doors on the scores. I can't see Mortimer, Reeves or Lamarr working with a noncey poofta and Lucas always seemed a funny eccentric than anything else. Him working on Little Britain was the perfect role and kick started his career.

That Lucas has all but withdrawn himself from the Noncenest of BBC HQ I think we're safe with him not having peccadillos of the pederasty persuasion.
I really, really hope so.

Reeves and Mortimer need to be protected at all costs and need to live healthy, happy, immortal lives.
 
As much as I agree with a lot of what Paul Joseph-Watson says, he's still a whiny annoying faggot that makes rage bait videos for a sub-80iq demographic.
I thought it was just me. I've tried watching a few of his videos because I do like my worldview being confirmed and not challenged, but christ is his voice and face annoying.
 
Reeves and Mortimer need to be protected at all costs and need to live healthy, happy, immortal lives.
Ye. They're like a remake of The Two Ronnies, except from that brief period when remakes were actually good.

I thought it was just me. I've tried watching a few of his videos because I do like my worldview being confirmed and not challenged, but christ is his voice and face annoying.
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I remember a women came out said when she was 16 he brought her into his dressing room and was trying to shag her (which, Burgers, whilst creepy is legal here.)

Somehow, her being coming a lingerie model in her twenties means that she was asking for it as the Right Side of History people went after her because Walliams has all the correct opinions.

EDIT: For the life of me I cannot find this story
I still can't find this story but searching for it I've found a ton of other weird stuff, like him pretending to be bi despite only having relationships with women and any sexual behaviour towards men clearly being to humiliate them rather than homoeroticism, and getting away with it despite even turbo nonce Peter Tatchell calling him out.

He's been allowed to get away with it again and again and again.

No wonder Geoff Norcott is always polite and soy, the BBC would have him hanging from London Bridge for 1% of this behaviour because he votes Tory.

Jim Davidson spent a night in the cells because some slapper the police knew was lying said he'd touched her arse forty years previously yet Walliams can sexually assault teenage boys on stage and recorded and it's all a good show?

I'm off to take some black pills, bros. I fucking hate the entire media establishment.
 
Imagination being such a degenerate that a gay man wants nothing to do with you. Walliams must be a right wrong ‘un.
like him pretending to be bi despite only having relationships with women and any sexual behaviour towards men clearly being to humiliate them rather than homoeroticism,
This is probably why Lucas wants nothing to do with him if true; straight (''straight'') man making parodies of fags touching little boys while being a total creep himself. Hard to make a joke of something when he's also being handsy with 16 year olds (seriously why is 16 legal in this country? You get way too many Paul Breach types knocking up 16-17 year olds, its totally disgusting. Nevermind how many 16 year old girls from brown communities get flown home to be married off, if Kier wanted to do this VAWG shit he'd up the legal age and protect against child marriage)

Anyway, in the Guardian today; MPs still banned from pubs, and it's causing trouble as they go home for Christmas, only to be turned out of their locals. Bares repeating that backbenchers are getting the worst of it and they truly must know Labours time is over. Emphasis is mine (some real Guardianisms here, 'the inclusive culture of pubs' lmafo, and MP Tom Hayes telling us to ''get politics off the high street'')
A protest barring MPs from pubs is exposing deeper tensions between politicians and the communities they represent.

Labour MPs heading back to their constituencies this weekend will do so with a sense of relief that another turbulent term in British politics is over. But those hoping to pitch up at their local pub for a restorative pint with colleagues and constituents may find festive cheer is in short supply. In fact, some may not be allowed through the door.

For the past few weeks, pubs across the country have been putting up signs declaring “No Labour MPs” in protest at changes to business rates announced by the chancellor, Rachel Reeves, in her latest budget.

The campaign means, for many Labour MPs, there is one less place to escape the bruising reality of their party’s unpopularity. Backbenchers now say they frequently encounter hostility in public spaces after a difficult first 18 months in which the party’s ratings have plummeted from about 34% to 18%.

“It can be hard being the MP of the area you have always lived in,” said one. “The local pub is where we used to go with the kids and just be a normal family. But the last few times we’ve just ended up being shouted at by other customers. Now I’m not even sure we’ll be able to get in.”

That sense of dismay is palpable in a recent video posted by Tom Hayes, the Labour MP for Bournemouth East, about being banned from one of his local pubs, the Larderhouse.

“It’s the Christmas season, it’s meant to be the joyful season,” he said. “But the Larderhouse and other businesses with a No Labour MPs sticker in the window, they are undermining the inclusive culture that business owners locally have helped to nourish.”

He went on to add: “We have to get politics off the high street full stop, but especially at Christmas.”

As well as denying politicians a port in the political storms that are so commonplace, the row threatens to taint the broadly positive reaction to last month’s budget, at which Reeves won the support of backbenchers and the financial markets by raising taxes and scrapping the two-child benefit cap.

Reeves herself may struggle to get served once she returns to her constituency of Leeds West and Pudsey, with the Daily Mail reporting that the Marsh Inn pub in Pudsey has barred her, citing the impact her budget has had on the industry.

Its landlord, Martin Knowles, who posed for a picture with the chancellor in July, told the paper: “I thought I’d ban them all, including the local MP, as they are not doing our industry any favours at all. Our clientele seem quite happy with the ban.”


One minister admitted: “The pubs row is the one weak spot in the budget. That’s the thing we may need to backtrack on.”

‘Pubs have a special place in the British psyche’

After a difficult few years in which pubs have been hit by high costs, the pandemic and the impact of younger people going out less, publicans were optimistic this budget might bring some relief – specifically with a long-promised revamp of business rates.

But the chancellor poured cold water on those hopes, choosing instead to reduce headline rates and commit £4.3bn over three years in financial support for the retail and hospitality industries.

It may have seemed a gesture of goodwill, but the value of that support package has been dwarfed by the impact of a three-yearly property revaluation that has caused the taxable value of pubs and restaurants to spike from their Covid-affected lows.

Starting from next April, rates will rise by 115% for the average hotel and 76% for a pub, compared with 4% for large supermarkets and 7% for distribution warehouses. Whitbread, which owns pubs, restaurants and the Premier Inn hotel chain, says it will have to pay between £40m and £50m in tax as a result.

Joe Butler, the landlord at the Tollemache Arms in Northamptonshire, said: “Literally overnight, the click of a finger, the value of our business has doubled. That’s going to be a huge increase for us.”

And pressure on publicans is inevitably reflected in the price of a punter’s pint.

“The price of a pint is now unaffordable. When we first took this pub on 10 years ago, we charged £3.40 a pint. We’re now verging on being £7 a pint,” Butler said.

At the same time, Covid-era tax reliefs are falling away, while hospitality operators are still absorbing the rise in national insurance and the minimum wage from last year’s budget.

“If you wanted to write the worst possible budget for pubs and consumers, you wouldn’t have got far away from what came out,” said Ash Corbett-Collins, the chair of Camra, the campaign for real ale.

Many in the Labour party believe this is one fight they should not have picked, not least because of the role the local pub plays in British culture.

Richard Quigley, the Labour MP for the Isle of Wight West, who also runs a chip shop on the island, said: “We said for two years to pubs and hospitality businesses that we are going to help you out but then they get hit by this revaluation. We can’t have rates going down for large multinational companies but up for small restaurants and pubs.”

Some point out that Keir Starmer himself has long been a regular at his local pub, the Pineapple in north London, and frequently speaks of their importance to local communities. “There’s nothing any of us like better than going to the local for a pint, myself included,” the prime minister said in February.

But pollsters liken picking a fight with pub owners as doing so with NHS workers.

Joe Twyman, co-founder of the public opinion consultancy Deltapoll, said: “From the Queen Vic [in EastEnders] to the Rovers Return [in Coronation Street], pubs have a special place in the British psyche.

“For many people the local pub is perceived to be an important part of the community, even if a good proportion of those same people will rarely actually drink there.

“The political risk with making an enemy of pubs is that your opponents will easily be able to accuse you of attacking at the very heart of this country and its history, particularly in rural areas. And they will be able to produce many emotive examples to prove their point.”

‘Not a personal vendetta’​

One of those examples is Andy Lennox, the landlord at the Old Thatch pub in Wimborne, Dorset, and the organiser of the “No Labour MPs” campaign. Lennox says he has handed out stickers to nearly 1,000 establishments and is sending out 100 more every day.

He has received support from the presenter Jeremy Clarkson, who runs a pub called the Farmer’s Dog, and Rick Astley, who part-owns the Mikkeller brewpub in north London – though the pop star has said he will not actually ban Labour MPs.

“We have been asking for relief for a very long time,” said Lennox, who is calling for a temporary VAT reduction. “The government is dressing this up as a relief package but that’s not what people are experiencing, and that is the thing that has aggrieved so many people.”

Some in the industry think a protest targeting individual Labour MPs is likely to backfire. “I’m not sure it’s a good idea to ban the exact people we should be trying to invite in and speak to,” said Corbett-Collins.

When asked this week, the Treasury spoke of the support being offered to hospitality. “We’re protecting pubs, restaurants and cafes with the budget’s £4.3bn support package. This comes on top of our efforts to ease licensing to help more venues offer pavement drinks and put on one-off events, maintaining our cut to alcohol duty on draught pints, and capping corporation tax,” a spokesperson said.

The landlords, however, are in no mood to back down, even if losing MPs means losing one more loyal customer.

Referring to his local MP, Butler said: “We know Rosie Wrighting well and she is a customer of ours.

“This is not a personal vendetta against anyone personally, this is not aggressively throwing anyone out. We would politely ask her to leave. It’s nothing personal. This is just a stand that we’re taking collectively as an industry.”
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(some real Guardianisms here, 'the inclusive culture of pubs' lmafo, and MP Tom Hayes telling us to ''get politics off the high street'')
My favourite was this one.
the row threatens to taint the broadly positive reaction to last month’s budget, at which Reeves won the support of backbenchers and the financial markets by raising taxes and scrapping the two-child benefit cap.
Why are people who work unhappy, we've raised taxes and given non-workers more? The WEF is happy, how dare you fucking plebs not be happy too!

The pub is one more thing they want to destroy or price to the point that the few that still exist are only for people with their sort of wealth.

I also like how they try to slimily insinuate Clarkson hasn't banned Labour MPs by mentioning Astley in the same paragraph and saying he hasn't. Top quality "journalism" there kids.
 
Funny thing I noticed this week: nobody western will say the word Christmas at work. It’s all ‘winter holidays.’
So on a call with my Japanese team (lovely people) and they wished us all a very merry Christmas and everyone recoiled and wished them a happy winter break. Which I don’t think they even have, and you could hear the polite confusion coming down the line (but boss, I wished them a merry Christmas is this not thecorrect form? Did I do wrong!?)
Same pattern repeated all over - nobody will say Christmas. it’s like they’re afraid.
The company was recently plastered with Diwali and Eid wishes by the way.
We used to enjoy these little pre holiday calls with each other - we’d talk about each nations holidays and what the rituals and food and practices were and enjoy learning a bit about each other. All that is now gone. It’s very sad. I used to really enjoy working with people from across the world because they were good people and it was nice to collaborate with them. Now it just seems like everyone’s so afraid of offence, and I cannot help but think this is entirely deliberate.
 
Funny thing I noticed this week: nobody western will say the word Christmas at work. It’s all ‘winter holidays.’
So on a call with my Japanese team (lovely people) and they wished us all a very merry Christmas and everyone recoiled and wished them a happy winter break. Which I don’t think they even have, and you could hear the polite confusion coming down the line (but boss, I wished them a merry Christmas is this not thecorrect form? Did I do wrong!?)
Same pattern repeated all over - nobody will say Christmas. it’s like they’re afraid.
The company was recently plastered with Diwali and Eid wishes by the way.
We used to enjoy these little pre holiday calls with each other - we’d talk about each nations holidays and what the rituals and food and practices were and enjoy learning a bit about each other. All that is now gone. It’s very sad. I used to really enjoy working with people from across the world because they were good people and it was nice to collaborate with them. Now it just seems like everyone’s so afraid of offence, and I cannot help but think this is entirely deliberate.
Weird, I've noticed the exact opposite. It's very Christmassy. Almost no rainbows this year too. No Palestinian sperging either after a Jewish member of staff went to HR after some lefty being a cunt to her for no reason. It's like there's been a breather in the corporate culture war and they're waiting for the Democrats to come back in over in the US so they can start their bullshit again.

It was worse years ago when the firm I worked for was trying to get people to take part in fasting for Ramadan for charity. It stopped when I asked my director, who kept trying to get me to join, what sort of pay-out did he think an atheist would get for being consistently pressured to take part in a religious observance.
 
Funny thing I noticed this week: nobody western will say the word Christmas at work. It’s all ‘winter holidays.’
So on a call with my Japanese team (lovely people) and they wished us all a very merry Christmas and everyone recoiled and wished them a happy winter break. Which I don’t think they even have, and you could hear the polite confusion coming down the line (but boss, I wished them a merry Christmas is this not thecorrect form? Did I do wrong!?)
Same pattern repeated all over - nobody will say Christmas. it’s like they’re afraid.
The company was recently plastered with Diwali and Eid wishes by the way.
We used to enjoy these little pre holiday calls with each other - we’d talk about each nations holidays and what the rituals and food and practices were and enjoy learning a bit about each other. All that is now gone. It’s very sad. I used to really enjoy working with people from across the world because they were good people and it was nice to collaborate with them. Now it just seems like everyone’s so afraid of offence, and I cannot help but think this is entirely deliberate.
It's also been extremely Christmas-y at my work too this year, free advent calendars for all of us, daily Christmas raffle for chocolates/booze/random tat etc, endless 'Merry Christmas' emails from various teams/execs and I work for one of the biggest firms in the country. Speaking with clients too it's been the same.
 
A little bit of good news to brighten your day amongst all the Labour doomposting.

As of today, boat crossings in the UK have hit 41,455 which means that we're projected to see less boat crossings by the end of the year than last years 36,816.

So now there is absolutely ZERO reason to vote for Reform. It feels good to back the good guys.
 
Funny thing I noticed this week: nobody western will say the word Christmas at work. It’s all ‘winter holidays.’
My work is a small group and very much technigger oriented, but even the token vegan dropped a merry christmas in the slack before we all fucked off on friday. It seems to vary a lot. I noticed the nearest Morrisons to me has a bunch of "gifting season" signs up. No mention of christmas, even though their national advertising is full of it. The rotary club float was in full christmas mode outside though, so I gave them a bit for daring to say the forbidden greeting.
 
My work is a small group and very much technigger oriented, but even the token vegan dropped a merry christmas in the slack before we all fucked off on friday. It seems to vary a lot. I noticed the nearest Morrisons to me has a bunch of "gifting season" signs up. No mention of christmas, even though their national advertising is full of it. The rotary club float was in full christmas mode outside though, so I gave them a bit for daring to say the forbidden greeting.
I own and run 2 very small businesses, and I've made sure that the premises are full of brightly coloured decorations that are Christmassy, but in a silly way - for example dinosaurs made of tinsel, and dinosaur string lights with father Christmas hats, I've made sure we have wished Merry Christmas to all our customers, had cheerful Christmassy music playing (but not you, Mariah!) and generally gone much more overboard than I usually do (I personally don't celebrate the religious aspect of Christmas, but I use this time of year to get the chance to spend quality time with friends and family while everyone is off work for a little bit) because I'm sick of the "Happy Holidays, don't say Christmas" bullshit.

I've also "Accidentally" made a nice in store display in TERF-y colours.

The retail world being almost ashamed of using the word Christmas, but still wanting to milk the general public dry of all their money and for them to Consoom Mooar is definitely being noticed, even in my small little town, and they have commented on how nice it is to be wished a Merry Christmas.

We are doing things like "Free Brew in the local cafe when you spend X amount of money " and giving free small gifts when someone brings a receipt in from another shop on our town high street to encourage people to shop local.

People are going to be spending money anyway at this time of year, so my thoughts are that I want to give people a Thankyou Gift as well as a wish for a Merry Christmas while they do so, and try to keep the local shops in people's minds.
 
Is there a single supermarket that's not full of brown people? I swear even the more bougie-White ones like M&S are full of browns these days. Sainsbury's has to be the worst offender with their Halal slaughter shelves that put me off from ever shopping there again.

Weird, I've noticed the exact opposite. It's very Christmassy. Almost no rainbows this year too. No Palestinian sperging either after a Jewish member of staff went to HR after some lefty being a cunt to her for no reason. It's like there's been a breather in the corporate culture war and they're waiting for the Democrats to come back in over in the US so they can start their bullshit again.
I've noticed that too. Way more ads and signs with christmas on them than any recent year. Mcdonalds have been putting massive signs up that just say random shit like "Christmas Joy" or "Merry Christmas" which feels strange for a company that dived head first into wokeness a few years ago.
 
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