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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[FedPostalService]

Where I grew up it was greenbelt for miles. Over the last decade the whole area has turned into those copy & paste new-builds. They are never not building new ones. It's always a new field they've found to build on when I drive by. I'm definitely feeling the population increase. Roundabout are way more busy than they were pre-pandemic.

And they never have any decent infrastructure. Not even a pub half the time. Just a couple of corner shops and a primary school that falls apart after 20 years.

 

[MongInTheMirror]

Honestly a lot of this is down to Labour pushing every kid into university because the fear of saying "some kids are just meant to be carers or receptionists" was seen as disgusting, as well as massaging unemployment rates if kids were essentially forced to do A-Levels/college and then soft pushed into University. It pushes unemployment along an extra 5 years instead of seeing everyone dumped into the workplace at once. Funnily enough, the end of Labour's last term ended with the 2008 financial crash that basically saw the death of cushy post-grad jobs too.

Now a lot of kids who would have become carers or Spoons workers for life now have a Media Studies degree. They want their 9-5 office job with the ability to work from home occasionally, not being given 4 hour contracts and told at 7 on Sunday morning to get to Sports Direct to cover a shift. Worse than that, they might not even be able to GET that 4 hour contract because the franchise is now owned by a Paki and exclusively hires Pakis.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's better for the population to have a higher level of education than not, but as usual leftists don't tend to understand secondary effects and now we have a lot of very very pissed off educated workers who are hurtling to the right while also being called uneducated for being right wing.

This is a funny one I've been wondering about, and it's definitely not just the UK either. Where TF did we (in the West) even get the idea that everyone needs to go to university anyway? I too believe it's essential to have a functioning, efficient education system well into tertiary level, of course - but the idea that it's beneficial to society to have 70-80% of the population or more having a degree, especially in something like humanities, is insane. I loved uni myself, and do feel like I've benefitted from it whether in terms of career or not - but it's very obvious that not everyone does. The sheer standard of work being carried out by most undergrads these days is of such poor quality that it functionally amounts to what would have once been considered appropriate coursework for teens anyway. I've graded essays as a postgrad/TA that were barely fucking legible, let alone coherent IMO, and was forced to pass them anyway. I've come to believe that universities in the West are nothing more than giant money laundering schemes, in addition to serving as a locus for postmodern/woke class formation and ideological programming.

 

[Jason_Cruiser]

And they never have any decent infrastructure. Not even a pub half the time. Just a couple of corner shops and a primary school that falls apart after 20 years.

They never build new roads either. They just siphon the estates into existing roads. I think the biggest infrastructure i've seen with a new build estate was a shitty second-hand car dealer and a mcDonalds.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

Where I grew up it was greenbelt for miles. Over the last decade the whole area has turned into those copy & paste new-builds. They are never not building new ones. It's always a new field they've found to build on when I drive by. I'm definitely feeling the population increase. Roundabout are way more busy than they were pre-pandemic.

That's the same as where I used to live. Even in the nearby used-to-be-village, they put housing estates on plots of land between housing estates, and even knocked down some shops in the centre to build those bughive redbrick 5 story apartments.

Where I am now though, no new builds, no extra traffic, just a brownening of the population without an increase of people. That's the strange bit, I have seen heavy population increases to the point where the town that used to go to school in went from a fun drive through it, to constant gridlock because they doubled the amount of houses in 10 years and added no new roads. It's bedlum.

Maybe one or two have moved away, but not as many as 25%. V strange.

 

[teriyakiburns]

This is a funny one I've been wondering about, and it's definitely not just the UK either. Where TF did we (in the West) even get the idea that everyone needs to go to university anyway?

I can't say exactly, but there was a general shift from the 60s onwards that saw the development of an obsession with modernity, certification, and rule by the expert, which required a reorganisation of the economy away from primary industry and manufacturing. This is something I have briefly rambled about before, in the context of Wilson, Heath, and Thatcher. Certification became the major focus of their efforts, because it's easy to create and measure metrics of educational "achievement" by graded pass rates, which can then be fed back into socio-economic models and used to calculate how soon certain economic metrics can be achieved in turn. Training on the job, however formalised it might have been, was no longer acceptable, because it couldn't be measured within the framework of academic achievement. Apprenticeships, or what had survived of them, had to be formalised and structured to fit within the academic system, which meant certificates and exams, which in turn excluded the very sort of people who would typically have taken that route to start their career. These people were then forced into alternative systems, often passing through and not-quite failing university, which fucked up their chances of a decent career in non-academic fields that were so desperate for workers that they ended up resorting to foreigners. They were sold a belief that the Academy would improve their lives and that they would never have to participate in the "lower" end of society.

The problem was, once they had set society onto this path, they became locked in to the idea of achieving measurable targets, rather than achieving outcomes. Outcomes are hard to measure. Targets are easy to measure. Increasing the education of the under 20s is hard to measure; sending half of all under 20s to university is easy, so they focused on that instead, regardless of the outcomes. It all feeds back in on itself, creating an ever-tightening spiral of failure that is used to justify ever stronger efforts to recruit to universities, whilst also justifying the importation of economic migrants to fill the jobs that natives are excluded from by the obsession with education, but also to fill the jobs that they've now been indoctrinated to see as beneath them.

This is a massive simplification of things. There are so many factors feeding into it that it would take a whole doctorate to cover them (and then some), and I'm glossing over obvious contributions, like fruit and veg farmers deliberately favouring foreign workers because they're easy to exploit, or unions restricting labour supplies and forcing employers to lean heavily on agency work to cover shortages. It's all fucked up.

But it's the shadow of the 60s. The obsession with modernity and the computer, with education and elevation, with the idea that we can just send all that dirty manufacturing away and spend all our time in a shining city on the hill, flitting between a nice job at the investment bank, the coffee shop, the library, the theatre, and the park, and never want for anything again.

 

[A-Logato]

Where I grew up it was greenbelt for miles. Over the last decade the whole area has turned into those copy & paste new-builds. They are never not building new ones. It's always a new field they've found to build on when I drive by. I'm definitely feeling the population increase. Roundabout are way more busy than they were pre-pandemic.

We had all of our greenbelt built on. Almost every house is a rental unless it's those big 3-4 bedroom houses they build to make back most of their money, said rentals are pretty much all owned by Indians and Pakis who have certainly browned the area by renting to their own. The only "affordable housing" they have is the bare minimum they are told to make and it's all down in one little corner.

 

[Made In Wales]

MI6 admits that it's 'almost impossible' keep us safe anymore during terrorist attacks...

https://www.gbnews.com/news/bondi-beach-shooting-emergency-service-mi6-chief-richard-dearlove

https://archive.ph/wip/khfT0

Also, Men will be allowed into all-Women housing block if they identify as Trans:

https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-row-women-only-london-flats

https://archive.ph/wip/2fhDR

 

[Clem Fandango]

it’s now almost impossible for an under 18 year old to get a job. By the I turned the age of 16 and started my A Levels I was glass collecting to earn extra money and would also do some labouring. That would be impossible now.

Is this true? My first full year of NI contributions was when I was 14 years old - the place I did work experience on in fourth year of secondary school just kept me on for the weekends. At the time I thought it was because I was doing such a great job, but I later realised it was because they could literally pay me £3 an hour to sit on the tills.

Kids these days are being deprived of a crucial childhood experience of being exploited for their labour.

 

[Made In Wales]

Is this true? My first full year of NI contributions was when I was 14 years old - the place I did work experience on in fourth year of secondary school just kept me on for the weekends. At the time I thought it was because I was doing such a great job, but I later realised it was because they could literally pay me £3 an hour to sit on the tills.

Kids these days are being deprived of a crucial childhood experience of being exploited for their labour.

Due to many factors:

* Migrants being gifted everything on a plate
* Schools teaching crap that kids won't need in the workplace
* We're giving our money to everywhere and everybody except where it's needed

* Influenza's (sorry, influencers) peddling the lie that 'anybody can be famous' and kids think they'll be the next AngryGinge or whoever playing games all day on Twitch

One thing which is coming out of this is that young people are now refusing to back the status quo and are demanding change instantly - they won't wait, they won't be told and if Starmer tells them 'shut up, you don't matter' then Labour will have lost the young people's vote for good.

Even the Labour MP Markus Campbell-Savours (Penrith & Solway) has openly admitted that life is shit for young people and that he empathises with them. He'd best be careful he doesn't get deselected...

 

[A-Logato]

Due to many factors:

* Migrants being gifted everything on a plate
* Schools teaching crap that kids won't need in the workplace
* We're giving our money to everywhere and everybody except where it's needed

* Influenza's (sorry, influencers) peddling the lie that 'anybody can be famous' and kids think they'll be the next AngryGinge or whoever playing games all day on Twitch

One thing which is coming out of this is that young people are now refusing to back the status quo and are demanding change instantly - they won't wait, they won't be told and if Starmer tells them 'shut up, you don't matter' then Labour will have lost the young people's vote for good.

Even the Labour MP Markus Campbell-Savours (Penrith & Solway) has openly admitted that life is shit for young people and that he empathises with them. He'd best be careful he doesn't get deselected...

Funnily enough Dankula commented about the possibility of a Gen Z uprising, much like what happened in Bulgaria, happening in the UK. Though he believes that if this did happen the the UK government would open fire on these kids.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

Brexit wasn't about keeping migrants out, it was about keeping the british in.

 

[Made In Wales]

Funnily enough Dankula commented about the possibility of a Gen Z uprising, much like what happened in Bulgaria, happening in the UK. Though he believes that if this did happen the the UK government would open fire on these kids.

I do not want to ever see a senseless massacre, but IF Starmer did try this then it would be confirmation that the guy was completely unhinged and then every Labour MP would face the wrath of their constituents - the Army would not fire on innocent people and I suspect many would down their weapons and refuse to help the government. The Police would also down tools as well.

Any Army or Police personnel who did fire on children would instantly lose respect and would then be on trial for murder.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Is this true? My first full year of NI contributions was when I was 14 years old - the place I did work experience on in fourth year of secondary school just kept me on for the weekends. At the time I thought it was because I was doing such a great job, but I later realised it was because they could literally pay me £3 an hour to sit on the tills.

Kids these days are being deprived of a crucial childhood experience of being exploited for their labour.

There's valuable lessons in that. If you don't learn early that employers are all shit, you don't learn how to fight back at them.

You know who does paper rounds today? Not kids. I think I've mentioned this before as well, but about 10 or 15 years ago, Trinity Mirror fired all its paper boys and replaced them with agency workers. At the time they were mostly fresh off a JSA claim, but that soon changed to being just immigrants, on a fraction of what the paper boys would have earned before. A paper round used to be a rite of passage. The first real job a lad could have.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

he Army would not fire on innocent people

LMAO, yes it fucking would.

 

[bort420]

You can blame the everyone must go to university push on Blair. He was enamored with having 50% of leavers doing that.

But the idea predates him, with the relabeling of polytechnics into universities in 1992.

 

[Made In Wales]

LMAO, yes it fucking would.

Then, if it happened, the backlash would be swift and brutal.

Asking people who live among their fellow citizens to kill them because a fascist has issues... we've been here before and the new Nuremberg trials would see Starmer and the rest of his cronies executed.

Can't seem to edit my post above (site keeps kicking me out)...

Morning GB News dump:


* Politics LIVE: Rachel Reeves handed major blow as key adviser LEAVES after just 4 months


* Sir Cliff Richard opens up on cancer diagnosis as he shares major health update


* George Orwell's Animal Farm given 'woke' revamp as new adaptation targeting capitalism sparks outrage: 'Orwell must be spinning in his grave!'


* Shoplifters could avoid facing prosecution after fresh court ruling


* 'Ladies and Gentlemen' is offensive and should be avoided, new training advice claims


* Children punished for wearing mascara after school introduces 'ridiculous' makeup ban


* 'Words fail me!' Jewish Assembly chair despairs at UK Government for 'doing nothing' following Bondi Beach shooting


* Nigel Farage makes heartfelt plea to GB News viewers after runner completes 79 ultramarathon triumph


* Reform UK MP warns of ‘frightening rise’ in antisemitism after Bondi Beach terror attack


* Couple hit with huge fine after building 'unauthorised' home extension to house 100 pigeons (their surname is Khan, by the way...)

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

Children punished for wearing mascara after school introduces 'ridiculous' makeup ban

Good. Goths nowadays are absolute fucking pussies compared to the goths of yesteryear. It's always the skinniest twinks known to man, whereas back in the day you could get Big Baz types who'd be able to rock your shit if you called them a faggot.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

Sir Cliff Richard opens up on cancer diagnosis as he shares major health update

I have a soft spot for Sir Cliff, as an elderly lady I used to work for loved him. Total fangirl despite being in her 80s. We’d put on his cds in the office and dance like idiots. I hope Sir Cliff will survive. He’s gotta be knocking on a bit now. He got really thin in the last decade or so, which is worrying. You need some meat on your bones as you get older, to keep you going if you get sick (and to insulate you from the cold when you can’t afford heating any more).

Shoplifters could avoid facing prosecution after fresh court ruling

So shoplifting is legal now? That’ll go down well with the drug addicted fraternity. Well done for encouraging them, idiots.

'Words fail me!' Jewish Assembly chair despairs at UK Government for 'doing nothing' following Bondi Beach shooting

And what do they suggest Britain do from the entirely opposite end of the planet?

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

And what do they suggest Britain do from the entirely opposite end of the planet?

In fairness I suspect this is due to the lackluster response re the Manchester stabbings and fears of copycat attacks from Bondi (alongside usual kvetching)

In minor news, Badenoch thinks her and Meloni are 'wattsapp buddies', and Yusuf is calling Polanski a ''chicken'' for refusing to debate him.

The problem is the way we treat people

It's completely shocking. There's no sympathy or empathy for people, and you get retards yelling at baristas or the poor fucker in Next over a jeans return; or you get psychopathic GP receptionists who exercise what little power they have to make you feel like a moron for trying to book a blood test. I genuinely wonder if the decline of religion/the 'do unto others as you would have done to you' messaging and associated social shame has made everyone a fucking selfish retard. But how do you bring that back?

 

[Otterly]

There's no sympathy or empathy for people, and you get retards yelling at baristas or the poor fucker in Next over a jeans return;

When I have to deal with customer service these days they always start out cringing like I’m going to yell at them. I guess a lot of people do. I’ve started being extremely nice (not like I was nasty before) to them and saying ‘oh I know it’s not your fault at all, you must get all sorts of abuse from people, that’s awful, now can we sort it like this maybe..?’ And 99% of the time they seem so grateful you’re not psychotic that they fix it for you. I’ve worked retail as a student and it’s never been fun but recently it seems unbearable for staff. One woman at boots having to man a physical checkout desk plus sort twelve self checkout desks. It’s too much, everything is run ragged.
And all the time everyone’s screeching to be kind, but they don’t mean real kindness at all, they just mean ‘dont criticise me for the shit things I do.’
We’ve lost our way. An homogenous society is essential for genuine in-group caring.
I’m always very nice to staff, I say hello and act politely and react politely and cheerfully and the difference it makes in how people react to you is immense, from which i can only conclude that the poor sods have to deal with 99% horrible interactions.
Be nice to wagies this Christmas, my fellow kiwis