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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs
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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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My conspiracy theory is the number of kids people are already having (1 or 2, maybe a 3rd) was always the regular number. We were just told people are having fewer/not enough kids to justify mass immigration [...]
The birth rate going down is a consequence of civilisation. Women who live in third world shitholes such as Africa, India, or the local council estate, usually have more children because there is no guarantee that any of them will live past the age of 5.

2021 Births; ONS
Figure 1: The total fertility rate has remained relatively stable (and below 2) since the '80s, but, of course, if you only look at the last decade then it's easier to blame #CurrentThing. There is also some prime fuckery there; The significant and rapid decline in fertility starting in the '60s has been labelled "Abortion Act 1968". Not even the ONS is free from ideological bullshit...

2021 Births (UK vs. non-UK born mothers); ONS
1.5 (stable-ish) for UK born mothers vs 2 (downwards trend) for non-UK born mothers. (Figure 2 is good for a laugh. We're going to be overrun by Albanians soon, even the Chinese spies are leaving!)

2021 Census; ONS
It's not quite the same, as migration has to be taken into account, but the population is actually (barely) increasing despite the overall percentage decreasing.
"White" remained the largest high-level ethnic group in England and Wales; 81.7% (48.7 million) of usual residents identified this way in 2021, a decrease from 86.0% (48.2 million) in 2011.

There's a lot of data out there, but it's not always easy to sift through (you either read their cherry picked summaries or get lost in inconsistently formatted mega spreadsheets). As far as I can see, the "out breeding" is over played and the population increase is mostly due to immigration. Of course, none of us actually need these statistics to tell us what is plain to see.

And where would statistics be without a "per capita" moment? Never mind this idea that just because the mother is white that the baby is also white.
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British women would rather have barbeque prongs shoved up their urethra to rip, tear and brutalize their defenseless unborn fetus limb by limb than have a white baby
England&WalesWhiteAsianBlackMixedOther
Abortions (2022)77%9%8%5%1%
Population (2021)81.7%9.3%4.0%2.9%2.1%

(Also, fuck off yank.)
 
And it cost you was everything :crocodile:
And they say da yoof are the melancholic ones.
You will own nothing and be happy (at knife point).
I will own a farm in the countryside and be happy because I've worked for, and earned it.
Enjoy owning nothing, having no savings, praying to allah and working until you're dead. At least the boomers lost their pension though, amirite?
 
Can the incredibly homosexual flirting go to a DM chain?

In actual news

While men still win the NEETlympics turns out young women are dropping out of work faster than they are

The numbers are stark. In June, the government reported that almost one million young people aged 16 to 24 are not currently in employment, education or training. And if you look closely at the data, you’ll notice that this increase has been driven by women. In the three-month period before June, the number of so-called “Neets” rose by 24,000; this can be broken down to a 25,000 increase in women, and a 1,000 drop in men.
In total, the Office for National Statistics reports, there are now 450,000 young female “Neets” – that’s the highest number recorded since 2016. So why is this figure on the rise, reversing previous trends? What is holding women back from the workplace, or prompting them to drop out quickly?
It’s undeniable that the job market isn’t exactly welcoming right now. “There are fewer jobs around, unemployment is rising, but then also, particularly for younger women, we are now seeing that AI is starting to reduce the number of entry-level jobs as well,” says Anna Hemmings, CEO of Smart Works, a charity supporting unemployed women across the UK. And any conversation about women and work must also reckon with the fact that women overwhelmingly tend to shoulder caring responsibilities, whether that is for young children or ageing family members.


But this only goes part way to explain what might be happening for the young women in the Neet cohort – many of whom aren’t yet even of an age when they are thinking about starting a family.
Mental health is also a major factor – but it’s a much more complex picture than you might think. Data from the King’s Trust shows that one in 10 Neets left employment over the past year due to mental health; more than one quarter say this has stopped them applying for jobs. The government has earmarked this as a particularly pressing issue; earlier this month, they announced that a new review, headed up by the former health secretary Alan Milburn, will examine how mental health issues and disability factor into youth unemployment.
Young women have “always been more likely than men to experience the more common mental health problems”, from anxiety to depression, says Dr Lynne Green, chief clinical officer at Kooth, a digital mental health support platform. And over the past decade or so, an overwhelming array of studies has concluded that these problems are only rising and rising in this demographic. This year, the Adult Psychiatric Morbidity survey pinpointed this group as particularly at risk of suffering from a common mental health condition.

Could this crisis, then, be pushing young female employees out of work? Twenty-nine year-old Megan is a Gen Z “cusper” who opted to leave the corporate world behind in order to prioritise her mental wellbeing. She was left feeling burned out after having to grapple with the “up and down” moods of “toxic people managers who expect you to work around the clock”, she says. “I was feeling guilty all the time for not working and had the goal posts moved all the time, which meant I dreaded logging in for work and it gave me intense anxiety.”
She is not the only one. You only have to glance at social media to hear the stories of young women who’ve decided to take a step back from their career after facing burnout. Caroline Hickey is a careers coach who mainly works with women in their twenties and thirties, and has seen some clients inadvertently fall into the Neet category. “I’m seeing lots of young people accidentally becoming Neets because they’ll go, ‘I want to go travelling, I want to have a break, I’ll figure it out when I get back,’” she explains.

The fact that they may feel empowered to make these choices and ‘put themselves first’ is a positive, but there is a risk that they may be swap[ping] one pressure for another
Caroline Hickey
This is a more “intentional” plan, she notes. But others may be making a “more emotionally driven decision” in response to “the negative experiences they’re having at work”. The issue with both approaches, though, is that these women are opting out for a “breather”, but potentially underestimating just how tricky it can be to return to the job market when they are ready, Hickey notes, while the fact that they “feel empowered to make these choices” and “put themselves first” is a positive, there is a risk that they may be “swap[ping] one pressure for another”.
It’s worth bearing in mind that much of Gen Z came of age during the pandemic, and suffered the setbacks and confidence knocks that came with this. Twenty-two year-old student Asma, found that studying for her A-levels remotely during Covid “really took a toll on me mentally and physically”; she ended up withdrawing her university applications and taking two years out, all of which “affected my confidence”. Since then, she has received interview support from Smart Works, which helped her secure an internship.

I think the big challenge with Gen Z is that many of them are emerging from childhoods and adolescences that have left them extremely ill-equipped for the workplace
Chloe Combi
“I think the big challenge with Gen Z is that many of them are emerging from childhoods and adolescences that have left them extremely ill-equipped for the workplace, through no real fault of their own,” says Gen Z expert Chloe Combi. “The death of the Saturday and after-school job and lack of work experience opportunities have left them finding work quite alien and scary.”
Combine this with the confidence gap between young women and men, with there being “comparatively less likelihood” that the former will “brazen it out or blag it in the way young men do”, as Combi puts it, and you have the potential makings of “a young woman retention crisis”.
Social media, and the “aspiration inflation” it has encouraged, is exacerbating this, making hyper-perfectionist women assume that they’re somehow failing unless they are excelling in a career that is high-powered but also feels meaningful (and let’s face it, it’s pretty rare to fall into a role that provides all of this when you’re only on your first or second job).
If you’re holding yourself up against impossible standards, your mental health is only going to suffer. “There is evidence that young women and girls are more likely to engage with social media platforms generally, but also engage in a particular way,” says Dr Green. “Generally speaking, [they] are more likely to compare themselves to others, pay more attention to likes, positive endorsements, and all these things are then associated with poor body image, low self-esteem, low mood.”
Even accounts that aim to support students or jobseekers, or give a more honest picture, can just end up sparking anxiety. Asma tells me how she’d see social media users detailing how they’d “had to apply to over 200 internships and only got offers from two”, which only painted a discouraging picture.

Combi also makes the point that well-meaning but “over-pushed” discussions around imposter syndrome – the feeling that you are somehow inadequate or not “worthy” of your role, despite your track record proving the contrary – might prove counterproductive. “It’s been foisted on young women as something they should feel, even if they don’t naturally, which makes them more fearful and apologetic,” she says.
It’s no wonder that all these competing conversations around women in the workplace might prove overwhelming. Women, Hickey suggests, are being “pulled between two ideals” – they might simultaneously feel that they should be excelling at everything, while also “decentering work” and believing it to be “not that important”. They might then respond in different ways, she adds: either by leaning “fully into” one of those ideals, or “opting out entirely”.
Throw in the rising discourse around so-called “trad wives”, selling an aspirational version of a stay-at-home life more suited to 1925 than 2025, and you add another confusing piece to the puzzle: young women are also being told to embrace a more small-c conservative lifestyle, focusing on domesticity and child-rearing, by influencers who are (ironically) “getting rich and independent by selling servitude and dependence to girls and women”, as Combi puts it.
The cost of sending a child to nursery has only just started to fall after increasing over a 15-year period, according to recent figures from kids’ charity Coram, and the UK is still one of the most expensive countries for childcare.
And this presents a huge structural issue for young women debating whether to return to work after maternity leave, or drop out altogether. Camilla Rigby is the co-founder of Women’s Work Lab, a not-for-profit organisation supporting unemployed mothers aged 19 and over by offering programmes to help them get back into work. “In September, we had over 65 applications for the 15 spots available,” she says. But “as our programme manager started interviewing, it transpired that half of those mums could not access the childcare to even attend our course, let alone going on to get a job”, she says.
Even though eligible working parents can now claim up to 30 free hours of childcare per week, in practice, those free hours are often snapped up by those “who have already got a child in the nursery” or those who can immediately commit to more hours. Plus, many nurseries require an upfront sum.

It’s making an impossible situation worse for mums who don’t want to fall out of the workplace. “They’re expecting a deposit before the child goes to nursery, and it’s just not possible if you don’t have help around you,” says 25-year-old Karolina, one of the women who Rigby’s organisation has worked with. “If you’re on Universal Credit and just getting the money to pay the bills, you do not have any spare money to put towards or save up [for childcare], especially with paying full rent.” Karolina spent two and a half years out of a job, but now works in a supermarket; her child is now school-age, but childcare during the holidays is still pricey. Without money, you can’t secure the childcare you need to go to work. If you can’t work, how do you save up for childcare? It’s a vicious cycle.
So what could be the long-term impact of all this? “I worry that if we’ve got [young women] opting in and out, what’s going to happen is they’ll end up staying lower down the employment ladder because they’ve haven’t been in the workforce [long enough] to put the time in to do the climbing,” Hickey says. After years of making progress on issues such as the gender pay gap and better female representation, “we potentially have the risk of going backwards”.


Incredible nonsense with bonus funny image. What the article doesn't mention though is it's a shitty rpg sourcebook.

The leading Scottish historian Professor Sir Tom Devine has poured scorn on a new children’s book which portrays the Picts as being “black or that Scotland in that period was a multicultural society”.
The ancient inhabitants of northern and north-eastern Scotland have long been the subject of myth and historic fantasy, including a discredited medieval claim that they had migrated from a region that includes modern Ukraine.
Now cartoon illustrations in the book Carved in Stone: A Storyteller’s Guide to the Picts shows them as multiracial, with black villagers, monks, bishops and religious healers.


Devine, a professor emeritus at the University of Edinburgh and one of the country’s most celebrated historians, said there was no basis for such a depiction. “I am not aware of any authoritative evidence which indicates that the Picts were black or that Scotland in that period was a multicultural society,” he said.

He suggested the authors might have used the fact that the true appearance of the Picts was unknown, leaving it open to interpretation. “A key feature of the elusive Picts of northeast Scotland, of course, is that our knowledge of them is pretty limited so there is ample scope for creative invention,” he added.
The book, aimed at children aged 14 and upwards, has been created to make the history of the Picts, who flourished from around 300AD-900AD, more accessible to young people.
It is the product of four years of work by a team of designers, writers, archaeologists and artists, led by Brian Tyrell, of Edinburgh-based Stout Stoat Press and Dr Heather Christie, an archaeologist, gamer and YouTuber.

An illustration from the book. A genetic study published in 2023 found that the Picts were descended from ancient Iron Age populations in northeast Scotland
Produced in partnership with the Society of Antiquaries of Scotland’s Dig It initiative, it said that the book would show that “the land that is now Scotland was just as multicultural, multilingual and socially diverse as it is today”.
Publishing information for the book says: “Carved in Stone is a comprehensive guide to early medieval Pictish society. Through its pages you will see, touch, taste, hear and smell your way through everything that modern scholars currently know of the Picts’ enigmatic culture.
Ancient Britons who built Stonehenge had dark skin, study suggests
“Produced in partnership with expert consultants across the Pictish academic sector, never before has so much research been distilled and lushly illustrated for the Picts.”
The book has been praised by some academics. Dr Adrián Maldonado, a specialist in early medieval history at National Museums Scotland, said: “It’s basically the best book on the Picts ever written.”
The Picts, known for their craftsmanship and the creation of intricately carved stone monuments, were first mentioned in 3rd-century Latin accounts as the “picti”, or painted ones, a possible reference to their tattoos. After centuries of cultural independence, they were assimilated in the 9th century into what would later become Scotland.
A genetic study published in 2023 found that the Picts were descended from ancient Iron Age populations in northeast Scotland. The same study also found that there was clear genetic continuity between the Picts and modern-day Scots in the same region.

The book was supported by The Society of Antiquaries of Scotland’s Dig It programme
Discussion of the potential diversity of Britain has intensified in recent years. Books and television series have attempted to present a more racially diverse past.
David Olusoga’s 2016 series Black and British: A Forgotten History included claims that the remains of the Roman-era Beachy Head Woman, found near the Channel, were those of a black woman. These were later proven false through DNA testing.
In the hit 2025 TV series King & Conqueror about the 11th-century Norman invasion of Britain, the chief adviser to Harold Godwinson or Harold II, their last Anglo-Saxon king of England, who died at the Battle of Hastings, was played by a black man.
Earlier this year scientists revealed that most Britons had dark skin 5,000 years ago — before the rise of Picts but around the time Stonehenge was built.

The experts said that by the Iron Age, between 1,700 and 3,000 years ago, 55 per cent of Europeans still had dark skin, while 27 per cent had intermediate skin and 18 per cent had pale skin. Archaeologists usually date Pictish culture from around the end of that period.
Publishers Stout Stoat Press were approached for comment.
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"From 1975 to 1982, Farage was educated at Dulwich College"
That Farage guy... he said an off color joke as a teenager nearly 50 years ago.

Reform in shambles. They may never recover.
 
And where would statistics be without a "per capita" moment? Never mind this idea that just because the mother is white that the baby is also white.

England&WalesWhiteAsianBlackMixedOther
Abortions (2022)77%9%8%5%1%
Population (2021)81.7%9.3%4.0%2.9%2.1%

While reassuring, I think this might be cope. The White population skews older right? so what about per capita of child rearing age?

So i went and looked at the 2021 census for ages 16 to 49


England&WalesWhiteasianblackmixedother
Abortions (2022)77%9%8%5%1%
Population (2021)81.7%9.3%4.0%2.9%2.1%
Population (2021) Aged 16 - 4977.78%11.81%4.69%3.02%2.70%

Whites bang on average/just above.

asians (excluding arabs) very under represented as are other (including arabs)

blacks over represented as are mixed.
 
We need to increase diversity in abortions. I want to see blacks and Muslims represented in those figures at levels much higher than they are represented on the BBC.
 
Incredible nonsense with bonus funny image.
What we do know about the Picts is that they were very pale, and covered in blueish art, whether tattoo or woad based paint isn’t quite clear. Ceaser wrote that they were tall, muscular, fought naked (it was warmer in Roman times here, remember) and wore long hair and moustaches. They also had a love of iron chain functional jewellery.
Woad tattoos make zero sense if you’re black. You wouldn’t resolve them against the skin. The Picts (from the Latin pictii?) were pale. They seem to have called themselves something like cruithin.
I detest this blackwashing of British history. We are an island nation and as such we’ve had all sorts wash up here over the years but a single west African slave or human zoo burial means very little, other than people had access to boats. It’s like that ring with the Islamic inscription found in a Viking grave. It doesn’t mean they were Muslim ffs, it means they plundered and raided and traded and worked as guards all the way to Constantinople and brought a trinket back for Hedda to woo her.
 
You will own nothing and be happy (at knife point).
I will own a farm in the countryside and be happy because I've worked for, and earned it.
Enjoy owning nothing, having no savings, praying to allah and working until you're dead. At least the boomers lost their pension though, amirite?
Until they come to wherever you run off to of course.
 
What we do know about the Picts is that they were very pale, and covered in blueish art, whether tattoo or woad based paint isn’t quite clear. Ceaser wrote that they were tall, muscular, fought naked (it was warmer in Roman times here, remember) and wore long hair and moustaches. They also had a love of iron chain functional jewellery.
Woad tattoos make zero sense if you’re black. You wouldn’t resolve them against the skin. The Picts (from the Latin pictii?) were pale. They seem to have called themselves something like cruithin.
I detest this blackwashing of British history. We are an island nation and as such we’ve had all sorts wash up here over the years but a single west African slave or human zoo burial means very little, other than people had access to boats. It’s like that ring with the Islamic inscription found in a Viking grave. It doesn’t mean they were Muslim ffs, it means they plundered and raided and traded and worked as guards all the way to Constantinople and brought a trinket back for Hedda to woo her.
WE WUZ also speaks to a cultural and historical inferiority complex. Where are all the White people inserted into Chinese and South American ancient history? You know, since we don't have photographs and so their skin colour was somehow "indeterminate".

Oh yeah, we don't feel the need to do that, since we have our own history. Black people are embarrassed on a genetic level that their whole continent never produced buildings over one storey high (see them trying to claim Egyptians wuz black).

Imagine being so insecure that you wished you were ancient Scots.
 
Where are all the White people inserted into Chinese and South American ancient history?
Ironically, the mummies found in the Tarim basin …
But yeah, it’s daft isn’t it? We’d see a white burial in such a country and immediately thoughts would go to what was this individual doing here? Traveller? Missionary? Does this indicate a travel route or trade route, how fascinating! We dont think ‘yeah they were all white.’ We think ‘how did this guy get here?
But yes, that fringe part of china has some burials that show populations that simply don’t exist any more, with western Eurasian features. The wool plaid the Tarim basin mummies wear is from Western European sheep.
I wish we could look more honestly at human migration patterns and ancient peoples because it’s really fascinating, but it’s all totally wrecked by the we wuz crowd and the anti white leagues
 
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