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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Made In Wales]

Can you tell me how it wouldn't immediately go the way of Royal Mail and the railways?

Not speaking for @Kier Starmer but all you have to do is carve up the services and then decide who from Spire, Circle, Nuffield, BUPA etc. gets to do what.

If Spire can assess and operate on a person in under six months, and it takes the NHS over four years, then the NHS is the problem and not Spire.

No Unions, no greed, no feckless useless Admins, British born doctors or doctors who have been here over five years and paid in if they are from outside the UK (that applies to every non Brit regardless of skin colour).

Besides, NHS private contract work isn't a new thing as it was brought in by Tony 'Miranda' Blair when he was Prime Minister.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

Anyone been to a private clinic lately? I swapped over to private last year and the waiting room was full of migrants sent from the NHS.

Privatising it doesn't mean better health care, it means more expensive waiting times.

 

[Made In Wales]

Anyone been to a private clinic lately? I swapped over to private last year and the waiting room was full of migrants sent from the NHS.

Privatising it doesn't mean better health care, it means more expensive waiting times.

Going to one on Friday, luckily last time it was majority white (some Black and Asian staff but they're usually alright and pleasant enough).

Also a business contact is off to a clinic in Bristol on Thursday - despite being in the UK's version of Portland it's virtually zero non whites there (Clifton area).

The local NHS hospital near me treats migrants overnight - they get bussed in and out on the quiet.

Guess who pays for their treatment... yup indeedy!

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

Not speaking for @Kier Starmer but all you have to do is carve up the services and then decide who from Spire, Circle, Nuffield, BUPA etc. gets to do what.

If Spire can assess and operate on a person in under six months, and it takes the NHS over four years, then the NHS is the problem and not Spire.

No Unions, no greed, no feckless useless Admins, British born doctors or doctors who have been here over five years and paid in if they are from outside the UK (that applies to every non Brit regardless of skin colour).

Besides, NHS private contract work isn't a new thing as it was brought in by Tony 'Miranda' Blair when he was Prime Minister.

Basically, this is what I would do. You carve it up and create a rule where only one respective company can manage a certain thing, to avoid monopolizing. The issue is medical records; we would need to centralize them so each faction can add notes and view, but the US and other countries have that method. In the US, it is the Department of Health and Human Services. This is done by abolishing our current DHCS and making a Ministry of Health, where all health matters go, including the D in the DWP.

This goes on to my next action, cleaving up the ministries and significantly reducing government size. There are 100s look at this shit!

https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations

Why the fuck are the Crown Prosecution and Justice separate? Merge them. This is impossible for a small group to do and is purposefully made big to create a sense of grandiosity. I feel Nigel would actually do this, though.

 

[Made In Wales]

Unconfirmed reports that a bomb has been found on a bridge in Stockport.

Now is the winter of our discontent...

 

[teriyakiburns]

Unconfirmed reports that a bomb has been found on a bridge in Stockport.

Now is the winter of our discontent...

Empty suitcase. This time, anyway.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

Unconfirmed reports that a bomb has been found on a bridge in Stockport.

Now is the winter of our discontent...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/stockport-station-live-trains-police-36191542 Police and bomb squad called for suspicious suitcase - which was empty thank god. But yes, people are on extreme high alert; the extra police are being recalled tomorrow which will not help calm peoples nerves
Edit ninja'd by teriyaki. As more of these false alarms (London Bridge, Stockport) happen, the more people are going to hear they are 'real' attempts. Ive already overheard the London Bridge evacuation as a 'they caught someone at the station' story. Chinese whispers. I wonder if people are going to be talking about 'a bomb' in Stockport rather than a suitcase.

 

[PandaChai]

people are on extreme high alert

But... the media told me the recent ~incident~ wasn't terror related!

 

[Duane Dibbley]

Can any oldfag posters remember the last time people were this jumpy? I lived through IRA bomb threats in the city and when the alarm sounded, people just ambled towards the exit with a shrug.

I hope digital ID isn't going to be the social equivalent of airline crash positions.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

But... the media told me the recent ~incident~ wasn't terror related!

The media is going to start telling us all the people I saw not on their phones, headphones around necks, looking around the carriage, bags on laps not on seats, are ""reconnecting with each other"" or some shit. It was eerie. Has anyone else had weird public transport things going on?

 

[teriyakiburns]

Can any oldfag posters remember the last time people were this jumpy?

I remember certain retarded individuals being jumpy, but everyone else was just vaguely pissed off about the bins being gone from our train station and the bus stop. This was a little village in the middle of nowhere that only had a station because beeching hadn't noticed it, but they took the bins anyway.

Last time there was anything widespread was the day after the ira blew up Manchester, but even that died down pretty quick.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

I remember certain retarded individuals being jumpy, but everyone else was just vaguely pissed off about the bins being gone from our train station and the bus stop. This was a little village in the middle of nowhere that only had a station because beeching hadn't noticed it, but they took the bins anyway.

I remember that, when they took the bins away from the city centre, then complained when the rubbish piled up everywhere.
About 20 years ago when I last used the train and saw bins at the station I chuckled to myself. It was the height of the war on terror. I thought "can't be that bad, we had no bins with the IRA".

Last time there was anything widespread was the day after the ira blew up Manchester, but even that died down pretty quick.

7/7 was the same thing. One day of twitchy-Brazilian ventilating, and then the commute carried on as normal.

 

[The Crack Spiders Bitch]

If Spire can assess and operate on a person in under six months, and it takes the NHS over four years, then the NHS is the problem and not Spire.

Okay, some context here.
Now I know the NHS has massive problems, Australia is getting tonnes of nurses and doctors from the UK and they're amazed at how well and less stressful our system is (which we think are shitty and badly run).
So this means the NHS must be fairly cooked.

BUT, the "private hospital can do it 1000x faster" isn't as simple as it seems.
Private Hospitals can discriminate on the patients they take and the surgeries they perform.
Ex: A private hospital will take public patients (national health pays these hospitals to deal with public wait list clog) but all of these patients will be young, fit, with little to no comorbidities.
So a ENT surgeon and anaesthetist can do 15+ tonsillectomies in one day at a private hospital.

Meanwhile, the public hospital can only do 4 because all of the patients listed have comorbidities and have to be slowly anesthetised, require more staff, and require more monitoring.
So the waiting times for things can be much shorter if you're deemed healthy enough to go have operations at a private hospital.
Private Hospitals also don't have to deal with trauma incidents that pull ED, radiology, and theatre staff to prioritise.

Also, sometimes when things go wrong in private hospitals, they will send their critically ill patients to the public hospital for treatment as the public hospital has the capacity for intensive interventions.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

Can any oldfag posters remember the last time people were this jumpy?

The week following 7/7

There was this really eerie feeling that the bombs were just the start and that any bus or train or football match would be the next one, and I don't blame the police one bit for going mega trigger happy and killing Charles De Menizes as they were fucking TERRIFIED of not pulling the trigger and seeing a station full of people turned to ash.

Also here's the funny thing, notice how the terror alert has never gone down? We've had a substantial alert (ie, terror attack is likely) since 9 February 2022. They are absolutely shit scared of reducing the threat because then if something DOES happen they'd look like fools, but at the same time they can't just tell everyone to remain calm when they've said there's a terror attack likely for THREE YEARS.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

The week following 7/7

There was this really eerie feeling that the bombs were just the start and that any bus or train or football match would be the next one, and I don't blame the police one bit for going mega trigger happy and killing Charles De Menizes as they were fucking TERRIFIED of not pulling the trigger and seeing a station full of people turned to ash.

Was that in London? Because around here nobody really gave a shit.

Also here's the funny thing, notice how the terror alert has never gone down? We've had a substantial alert (ie, terror attack is likely) since 9 February 2022. They are absolutely shit scared of reducing the threat because then if something DOES happen they'd look like fools, but at the same time they can't just tell everyone to remain calm when they've said there's a terror attack likely for THREE YEARS.

I think the terror alert depends on global happenings as well. So with the war in the ukraine and palestine, it puts the threat up to a level where "Shit is going down elsewhere, there's a possibility shit could go down here".

When was the last time it was below Substantial?

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

When was the last time it was below Substantial?

You're not going to believe this, but it hasn't. It was established in 2006 and the lowest it has ever been is Substantial with a few Severe's mixed in and one or two Criticals.

So for nearly 20 years we've had a lingering threat of doom rivaling the Cold War. No wonder everyone is shot to pieces, that's an entire GENERATION of people who have known nothing but fear.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

You're not going to believe this, but it hasn't. It was established in 2006

I remember the old Bikini states and the easy-to-access website about rating in other countries, which I can't find anymore.
When It changed to the civvy codes I stopped giving a shit.
Horrifying that Substantial is the norm though.

 

[JosephStalin]

Got this today.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

Got this today.

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[El Gordo Ramsay Sex Dwarf]

Really is tiresome lately. Got a nice nostalgia hit yesterday seeing BTTF in 4DX (40th anniversary already.....), but mega happy seeing all the flags lining the main road into the town. Also did my duty a couple of weeks ago by repairing the St George's flag on Grain Tower.