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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Otterly]

Burglary was taken really seriously in previous times. It still should be.
Non violent criminals should get one chance - a kid with a bad upbringing who nicks a car can reform and should be given a chance to do so. Rapists, child molesters, and those using violence no, they need long sentences. As for house breaking (who h is TERRIFYING for those it happens to) that’s something we should take much more seriously.

 

[Clem Fandango]

Our issue is we don’t look at crime rationally. Repeat offenders are broken people who often escalate and if they refuse to be fixed they should be locked up away from up and strung up from a tree.

I'm a death sentence guy. I firmly believe we should bring it back, for multiple reasons. Firstly, I don't like paying to house criminals at all. Even short sentence, soft crime, turn their life around sort - I'm still paying for that shit. I get that some things are not death penalty worthy, and for most crimes yeah you probably should get a second chance at life. But if prison is there for anything imo it's not for rehabilitation, it's to keep scum away from civilised people and to act as a deterrent and therefore it should be horrible and miserable and most importantly cheap.

As for the serious crimes, I guess it's another sad sign of the times. You think I was pro death penalty in the 90s? No, it would have been a joke to even suggest. We didn't need it back then. But apparently now we have little Mohammed and big Hadush running around, and I don't think they understand any form of punishment other than extreme (legal and state sanctioned, just for the avoidance of doubt) violence.

I hang around with a lot of Tory voters. The sort of 2010s coalition era ones. And it's funny that I leapt to Reform years ago, I feel like I was ahead of the curve. I like to check in on them from time to time and see how they're coming along. I'm meeting up with one this weekend and I reckon I'll get him scratching his chin over hangings (where he would have once been mortified).

 

[Terrible Weather Services]

Burglary was taken really seriously in previous times. It still should be.

What? Here's your crime number, goodbye.

 

[Made In Wales]

Fuck him. Other people don’t have to turn to crime. He’s not a victim. We’ve got families who haven’t worked for generations happy with their gibbs and Sky Sports on a 70” telly, so why would that cunt be so special?

I grew up and dragged my self out of shitholes like were those people arr from, so did plenty of people who had it a hell of a lot worse than me. Do you know what we all have in common? We all refuse to be victims.

Good for you, but sometimes people need that bit of extra help in order to prevent them from going down that route.

I wish I could have done more to stop him - even a chat to put him straight.

His excuse was 'he needed money, he had none' therefore he got into stealing. He's not proud of it, but he's also angry that when he asked for help he didn't get it (from the community and from his doctor).

I too have seen people refuse to work and take from the state, it's not fair but those at the top won't listen to the likes of us will they?

What society wants to create is a victim narrative and culture, but what would prevent that is the opportunity for offenders and those at risk of offending to be offered something better - for some, it's the military, but others could benefit by helping out in their community... the issue here in Unions and Councils who'd get narky and say 'we're not taking these people on!'

No, we need to say no more victims - of crime and of circumstances. We need to tell them 'you aren't going to say no, you will give those who need a chance a chance and your feelings be damned!'

We have job shortages in transport, in the NHS, in maintenance etc. Unless we can give some people who may not deserve it a second or even a first chance, we're going to keep having to import non-Brits and that in turn fucks up their countries - we're taking medical staff from the Philippines and their health service is suffering as a result.

Too many youngsters especially get discarded by society and if they're easily led they end up in trouble. Yes, I blame them for their actions, but I also blame the system for how unfair it is especially in working class areas where there's poverty and no future at present for them.

We are never going to get the Prison numbers down, we aren't going to build more Prisons with the current bunch of arseclowns in charge, and therefore it's a recipe for complete and utter disaster.

I would definitely have Sex Offender Only Prisons and Trans Prisons, but there isn't the money to build them now it's gone to Ukraine or going to Palestine. Therefore, we're going to have to think before log who will and who won't go to Prison (I know, Whites only to Prison, Niggynog goes free...)

 

[FedPostalService]

What? Here's your crime number, goodbye.

Chief Constable: “I have no idea why gangs from around the world are flying to the UK to commit burglary after we stopped investigating them?”

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

where any old BS sob story was seen as an excuse, has directly led to where we are today.

IMHO people cannot comprehend (or do not want to comprehend) the idea of someone who is born evil or just inherently not meant to be in society. People will always try make justifications for their boyfriend who beats them, or stealing, or those yobs who constantly terrorised that farmer before being shot, because they themselves cannot get into the mindset of someone who just makes evil decisions. While there definitely are people who can and should be rehabilitated (ie dumb fuck teen who gets into fights or nicks bikes, someone born into drug use), so many of these high profile cases are just people who cannot understand the societal contract- you can only benefit from and live in society if you behave according to societys rules. These foreigners who come here genuinely don't have the same upbringing and understanding of how we interact with each other (IE DONT RAPE WOMEN, or even just the concept of queueing, or saying thank you); it's the same of people who try to make the atom bomb seem like the most Horrific Thing ever; they can't understand that the Japanese had been raised to die for the Emperor and had an entirely different way of thinking to other countries, the kamikaze shit, the suicide bombings, there was literally no other alternative. But we all assume (globalism imho) that everyone thinks Like Us, and cannot 'get' that some people are just criminal.
It also doesn't help as Llyr says ^^^ youngsters nowadays are led into county lines drugs, 'petty' theft, and the system is absolutely not equipped to deal with the more minor crimes and get people on the straight and narrow.

Spoiler: And Asylums; long

It's the same with asylums, your average joe who probs knows someone with (or has and identifies with) mental health issues, but very few people know how bad truly fucked in the head people are; so when you tell them 'some people need to be locked up forever for their and our good' it clashes with what they know and have experienced irl of 'mental health issues' and how Billy got better after some prescription. No one wants to accept 'unfixable' people because in Modern Society it clashes with some inherent 'everyone is good' belief that is drilled into us. Some rabid dogs just need to be put down. I don't think the guy at the bus stop who barks at me daily is in a great mental space and is a danger to himself and others, but who cares because the thought of padded cells makes people in charge feel icky

I'm pro death penalty for rape (especially of a child) and murder. There's another post on the death penalty here (I believe in this thread) that always stuck with me, to the point I have it copied down.

What they [anti-death penalty activists] fail to understand is that there are some crimes--some acts of depravity and cruelty-- which so egregiously violate, not simply our social/legal order, but our moral order, that when dealing with their perpetrators it is no longer about quaint ideas like punishment or deterrence or proportionality -- it's about just retribution: it's about providing a measure of catharsis to the community/society, as a whole, that was victimized by being made to contend with these monsters.
If you can't exist on this planet without using innocent little children as a means of gratifying your base, sexual urges-- or abducting random people to torture them for days at a time in your basement, or walking into an elementary school classroom and opening fire etc. etc.-- then you need to be excised from society the way a malignant tumor needs to be excised from a body. There's nothing "enlightened" or "civilized" about keeping these people alive indefinitely.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Our issue is we don’t look at crime rationally. Repeat offenders are broken people who often escalate and if they refuse to be fixed they should be locked up away from up and strung up from a tree.

Isn't it crazy how we are more retarded about crime now than the literal fucking dark ages? If you do heinous shit that makes everyone want you to be separated from society then we still do that, we just pay for 50 years of that instead of 50 minutes and a rope. Rob someone? Bye bye hand. It's this retarded idea that the past is different when really we are no different than the first civilisation. We are no more or less barbaric than they were as people. People think that medieval oh killing people for crimes that's really bad when we do the same shit we just draw it out. Yea hanging people which snaps their neck in a split second and basically instantly kills them is bad, anyway here's our nhs ward full of old people that are more drug than person at this point and can hardly exist without a daily dose of morphine. You know because we're civilised aren't we? I have no sympathy for thieves especially. It's such a fucking brown mindset. If you can't afford something then don't spend your money on other things or just don't buy it. I'd love many things that are too expensive, so I simply don't buy them. I don't steal them because I am a normal person and do not feel entitled to other people's property. I just can't get my brain into someone who is so entitled they just take something when they can't afford it. Unless it's bread or tins of soup because you genuinely cannot afford them I do not have any sympathy, even then the amount of people who say they can't afford things and then you look at it and it's like yea you can afford them you just spent all your money on designer clothes you retard.

Being burgled will fuck you mentally. The sense of violation is fucking awful.

In my mental tier list of crimes home invasion is on the same level as I guess vaginal invasion lol. It's one of the reasons I specifically wanted a big dog. I don't want to call the police, I will reluctantly call an ambulance, I would prefer to call a hearse. Also we live in England, there are 'crimes' that are victimless. Shit that shouldn't be a crime. Personally 'victimless crime' is an oxymoron but hey common sense doesn't belong in politics apparently.

His excuse was 'he needed money, he had none' therefore he got into stealing. He's not proud of it, but he's also angry that when he asked for help he didn't get it (from the community and from his doctor).

I've needed money and had none too. So I did without. Yea living on minimum wage fucking sucks but that's not an excuse. Just because you had a reason to do something does not justify it. Oh well I was horny and I had no gf so I fucked a random woman on the train? Yea shit sucks sometimes and certainly the poorest people in this country need support. But a lot of the time it's just entitlement. You didn't need to become a thief. You just took that route because it was the easy way out. Ie you are brown if not in skin then in mind.

 

[Clem Fandango]

It's this retarded idea that the past is different when really we are no different than the first civilisation. We are no more or less barbaric than they were as people.

It's fun when you have a kid to look at the baby and think, if they were born like fifty thousand years ago they - literally this little baby in front of me right now - would be a little cave man baby. Their "hardware" is exactly the same as back then.

So a couple of years later when they're moaning about having jam with seeds in it or something you think "come on mate, you'd be happily tucking into some mammoth guts if you were just raised in a different time".

 

[SaltyFanta]

No crime is victimless. This culture of letting small stuff slide,which started in the late 70s, where any old BS sob story was seen as an excuse, has directly led to where we are today.

It really seems to be one of the defining factors of the weak retarded mentality of British leadership. They really seem to have the mindset that bowing down and capitulating to violent savages is a successful long-term strategy of dealing with them. It isn't. They seem to see weakness and meekness as moral attributes.

I think a problem with have with the justice system is it's accountable for how they treat convicts but not how they treat society at large. A self serving judge is always incentivized towards giving a pedophile a short sentence, because they can feel merciful and forgiving. This is because they will never be held accountable for when that pedophile goes on to reoffend, and thus do not need to take that into account.

I'm a death sentence guy. I firmly believe we should bring it back, for multiple reasons. Firstly, I don't like paying to house criminals at all. Even short sentence, soft crime, turn their life around sort - I'm still paying for that shit. I get that some things are not death penalty worthy, and for most crimes yeah you probably should get a second chance at life. But if prison is there for anything imo it's not for rehabilitation, it's to keep scum away from civilised people and to act as a deterrent and therefore it should be horrible and miserable and most importantly cheap.

I support the death penalty too. Broadly I think the issue though is that criminals are assumed to just be a loss by those in power. I don't think that assumption is correct.

I think severe and repeat prisoners should be killed and parted out like an old car, having their organs donated wherever they can be, or just turned into bio-fuel. I think the rest should be kept as slaves with treatment depending on the severity of the crime. But those who do not work should not eat.

It seems quite cruel, but I think cruelty is the only way to deal with these people. Otherwise we're just punishing the victim by making them pay taxes to keep the person who harmed them fed.

 

[Made In Wales]

With the person I know, it was not a case of entitlement but rather doors being shut in his face.

He tried until he was exhausted - when some people have had enough, I guess that the switch can flip.

My anger is not so much with what he did (and he made recompense) but rather that you have to commit a crime to receive help in the first place - that is stupid.

Hence my original point, so many people in Prison for non rape, murder, arson crimes could and should have been better helped outside and making them productive gives them a sense of purpose and prevents future crime.

It's not a case of being 'soft on certain crimes' but realising that if you prevent somebody from becoming a criminal in the first place then that's one extra decent person society gains. We waste more time and money on locking people away than we do on fixing them - true, some are unfixable, and for them we then need to ask serious questions about what (if anything) can be done.

For major crimes, I am resolutely pro death sentence as that is a necessity. Where violence is involved, it should be considered a major crime rather than say a starving person stealing bread from a shop because he hasn't eaten for days.

 

[FedPostalService]

So a couple of years later when they're moaning about having jam with seeds

That’s a valid complaint and in a civilised society I would be allowed to duel to the death with anyone who says it wasn’t.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

It's fun when you have a kid to look at the baby and think, if they were born like fifty thousand years ago they - literally this little baby in front of me right now - would be a little cave man baby. Their "hardware" is exactly the same as back then.

So a couple of years later when they're moaning about having jam with seeds in it or something you think "come on mate, you'd be happily tucking into some mammoth guts if you were just raised in a different time".

It's kinda annoying when you get to more recent stuff though. The amount of people that repeat the same shit about the medieval ages just because they think they're fundamentally different as people. So many people give you the same shit about oh castles stank and had no ac and no plumbing for toilets and medieval people would have stank like swamp pussy. And then you look at it and there's fucking dedicated plinths in castles for potpourri and shit and there were dedicated cleaners 24/7 and even the most remote castle had better sanitation than india does today and most medieval people took routine baths in clean water which is actually better than today's autistic rigidity to you must shower every day. These people act as if medieval people just had no sense of smell and were all indian level because they want to think themselves as different to the past.

Also have you tried feeding her mammoth guts then? I think haggis would be preferrable to seeded jam though. Especially seeded grapes holy fuck I'm glad we eugenicsed those things out of existence.

I believe in this thread

I remember writing something almost identical to this at one point here. At least in message. That's got too many of them fancy lines and dots for a guy like me. The only thing I would add is that if you are some rapist type criminal that severely traumatised someone directly then they should be locked to a chair in a soundproof room and the victim left to do whatever they want.

 

[sheepworldvizor]

Pattern recognition





But what’s this? The original header photo and link…


And the link photo now (a)

Nvm BBC has it

 

[Made In Wales]

Pattern recognition

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Done on purpose, supported by Starmer.

 

[sheepworldvizor]

Done on purpose, supported by Starmer.

tbh i’m amazed Guardian added any headshots

 

[Clem Fandango]

Lol, only on this forum would you get more pushback on seeded jam than "literally kill crims". I love you guys.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

Lol, only on this forum would you get more pushback on seeded jam than "literally kill crims". I love you guys.

Autists don't like unexpected textures in food, what did you expect?

 

[Made In Wales]

Lol, only on this forum would you get more pushback on seeded jam than "literally kill crims". I love you guys.

We can mass debate here and still be frens.

Plus, conformity is not really a 'Farms thing, we've got some really great minds on here who should be in Government.

Some good news tonight - Dejphon Chansiri has quit as owner of Sheffield Wednesday.

They're bottom of the Championship on -7 points, but are optimistic of being sold to new buyer.

Let's just hope they get it right this time!

A few wins and they should be able to climb out of trouble.

 

[FedPostalService]

I’m beginning to think we’re just one consent accident from some kino, lads.

You might think that it’s not a winter activity but there’s nothing that warms the cockles like a big roaring fire in Minecraft.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Lol, only on this forum would you get more pushback on seeded jam than "literally kill crims". I love you guys.

All I'm saying is most seeds in jam I've seen are brown or black, you can't call me inconsistent.

Dublin seems to have calmed down a bit though. Not much at all from rte today. Just changed location of the attacks.

Spoiler

They've put up actual barriers to block the entrance now. Instead of just standing in the middle of the road.
There's only one article about it and literally the first line you read of it is

Inside the complex - which is vast - the atmosphere is calm but tense.

It's calm but also not calm. Thanks journos. Yea so like I'm really calm but I'm also pretty on edge. Are they weed addicts or some shit?
I don't know if this can be verified at all but they do say

RTÉ News was given permission to enter Citywest Hotel, to speak to some of the 1,200 residents, the majority of whom are Ukrainian refugees.

and

Of the 1,200 people in the hotel, there are around 350 Ukrainian families. Many of the children attend schools in the local area.

Which. Idk. Maybe. That would mean there's 200 browns. Roughly. Idk. It would be nice if they gave actual numbers but let's be honest they're journos they are only ever going to give the numbers that support their side of things. Statistics is a fucking lie and you should never believe numbers.

There's a quote from the mother to her kids

I started to talk to them to say that we are not safe. I said you should be careful, maybe not playing outside because not safe for you playing outside.

YOU FUCKING LIVED WITH A CHILD RAPIST?????????????????????????????
None of these people would have harmed any ukranian. They're not retarded. They know who they are angry at. These people would have only made you safer. They have no interest in single mother ukranians.
Also there's this part.

Natalia does not have children - but the protest which turned violent on Tuesday night - resulted in her taking care of her friend's child.

So is that one of the 350 ukranian families? A single person with no kids for sure and no husband mentioned?

But that's it. No riot footage, no more burnt vans. Nothing. Not even protest footage by the looks of it.

Oh ok. Interesting. There's another story that was not on the front page.

Centre housing around 20 asylum seekers in Dublin attacked​

This was in Dublin city not Dublin county too.
Ooh. Interesting. Ok. Nothing said about them, no oh it was 50 ukranian families.
However

houses around 20 International Protection applicants

that sounds like they're those pakis that were in leaked information and rescued from the taliban. Something like that. Though they could just mean ipas applicants. Which is basically just all immigrants. People who are 'refugees' count basically.

This does not look like a serious attack. This looks like someone trying to scare them or send a message.
I can't really quote it easily. But they say that bins were lit on fire and things were thrown through the windows. The house did not burn down. No one was injured. Now. You tell me. If they can light fire to a bin in the street why didn't they do it in the house? Because they did not want to. If they wanted to burn that house down they would have. It is not hard to break a window, light a bin on fire and throw the bin through the window. If they wanted those people dead they would be. But they aren't because they didn't.

Some labour faggot said this.

"This protest was planned and circulated on social media. Gardai need to do much more to proactively police these smaller sites and protect inhabitants."

Interesting isn't it? A 'protest'? The labour retard doesn't see the difference between vandalism and a protest? This wasn't a protest, this was a group of men that turned up and bricked the windows. There was no protest. Yet someone doesn't see the difference apparently. Also I don't think this was planned. It looks like a few people were rightfully pissed off that rapists are being imported into the country and expressed themselves in the only way they have left. This isn't some coordinated protest. This is a bunch of people who just did this on a whim. Or you know, in hushed voices in a pub or something. Like certain other things from recent Irish history.