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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Very likely going under in a the next year or so. Turns out lending money to people who can't pay back their loans is a bad business model. Who knew?
It is unfortunately quite illegal to make a decision on a loan depending on skin colour but it turns out it would've been quite a solid business decision. I never would've thought Abakana Ngubu would default on a £1300 loan to buy a new iPhone.
 
Doubt all you like. Russia, across all its guises
Russia can be incompetent at war and still a profound cultural and geopolitical threat.
Three years and countless losses later, you're still seething at Russia being bad at war? Any minute now they will run out of men/weapons/bullets/shovels.

You're a clever guy, or someone who copy/pastes from AI a lot, but you backed the wrong horse in the Ukraine war, even when presented with evidence.
Take the L and move on to provide positive contributions.

Six weeks to AWS:reInvent [50,000 devs invade Vegas; it's a thrill] and I'm sure the CEO is rewriting his keynote even as we speak.

Back to these shores: can we bring back hanging, and start with the youths setting off fireworks practically outside my window?
Ahh, that time of year again, when shut-ins cry about fireworks and "muh dog!!1 stop scarin muh doggo!!".

I like fireworks and bonfire night, it's the most romantic night of the year. Or it used to be before shut-ins cried about it and councils shit their pants over health and safety. Gone are the days when the community would bring out all of their old furniture, books and general shite, wang it on a pile of old wood and pissed-up fat dave would light a gallon of fuel with a lighter.

chucking on old cans of lynx and sheets of asbestos for the extra danger-boom was good times.
I do miss the air after bonfire night, that strange, carbony-haze that drifted around the cold, dark morning.

Those were the days.
 
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I have no problem with Bonfire Night. I have fond memories of freezing on a beach, waving a sparkler in my little gloved hand.

But no one needs over a fortnight of this, especially when zoo animals die as a result.
 
Gone are the days when the community would bring out all of their old furniture, books and general shite, wang it on a pile of old wood and pissed-up fat dave would light a gallon of fuel with a lighter.
Didn't the northern Irish or someplace last year burn a dinghy with stuffed fake migrants sitting in it? That was kino
Bonfire night used to be great, now its just yobs in town lobbing fireworks at buses without consequence. Crossing the road feels like saving private ryan
 
Bonfire night used to be on 5th November. Now it’s weekday evenings the week before and after, and all weekend long both ends of that.

Bonfire night is/was great. The next morning, with the smoky smells and the little bits of wood from rockets in the street, good times. My dad used to get a box of Standard fireworks for the back yard every year, and we only set them off on the night of November 5th.

The absolute shitbucket who set off a huge rocket at 5:30 pm tonight and had my dog bolting home, though? People like that ruin the fun for everyone.

I don’t even mind bonfires and fireworks on Halloween, we’d do it back home in Ireland. But that’s 31st October only, too.

Damn yoooof with no respect for calendars.

Speaking of Halloween, our street regularly has a ton of trick or treaters, and many people put on decorations and treats for the kids. I always have a tray with sweets and chocolate, and 99.9% of kids will take one item and say ‘thank you’. Little kids all the way up to teens. The only kids who will grab handfuls and totally clear the tray while the smallest one of the group remembers to say thank you as they’re walking away? Some flavour of Middle Eastern kids. And we have all kinds where I am now. Eastern Euros, Africans, Asians, all are the model of polite. This gaggle of kids from an obvious Syrian/Palestinian/who the fuck knows what background though, they’re selfish little shits who know damn well there are other kids a few steps behind them on the street, but couldn’t give a fuck. Might have a separate small bowl of sweets for them this year, just so they don’t clear us out and leave none for other kids.

And god help any arsehole who says ‘oh they must’ve been so used to starving at home’ - they’ve been showing up at my door for three years now, they are far from starving. Their English is just fine. They know. They’re just selfish little shits in a way I’ve never seen in any other breed of child. They really don’t give a good impression of their compatriots, put it that way.
 
Bonfire night used to be on 5th November. Now it’s weekday evenings the week before and after, and all weekend long both ends of that.
Bonfire night was always whichever weekend either side. I don't have time to go out and have an hours long bonfire and fireworks if I have to wake up in the morning. Has nothing to do with calendars or the specific date that's just I have work to go to.
 
Bonfire night was always whichever weekend either side. I don't have time to go out and have an hours long bonfire and fireworks if I have to wake up in the morning. Has nothing to do with calendars or the specific date that's just I have work to go to.
7.30-9pm? Come on now.

(Excused if you’re busy with work, family shit, or vidya)
 
Little kids all the way up to teens. The only kids who will grab handfuls and totally clear the tray while the smallest one of the group remembers to say thank you as they’re walking away?
At least they said thank you.


Aside from that, I remember when this americanised halloween just wasn't a thing. Closest thing we had to it was mischief night, but that was in november, and the idea wasn't to go around begging for sweets. You just tossed fireworks around and rang doorbells. All hallow's eve was an obscure thing. A holdover from pre-christian beliefs about the transition from autumn to winter, where you had to ward off the spirits of the dead and maybe help them move on to the next life. All this sugar-coated pumpkin shit was astroturfed in the late 90s so the supermarkets could have another season of tat to sell. I hate it.

Half my road does the trick or treat, the other half (including me) turns off the lights and hides in the back until the greedy little shits have gone away. I already give my nephews and nieces enough sweets at christmas.

Bonfire night was always whichever weekend either side. I don't have time to go out and have an hours long bonfire and fireworks if I have to wake up in the morning. Has nothing to do with calendars or the specific date that's just I have work to go to.
It used to be a lot less stressful to do it on the actual day. At the very least there was a pub running something that had enough time and space for people to turn up, sup a little wine, and load up on meat and tattie pie while fireworks went off every couple of minutes.

I was lucky, when I was a nipper, to have parents who were fairly important social fixtures in our little town and who had access - not ownership, mind, but merely access - to a bit of rough land at the back of our place to run occasional events. We were the bonfire night spot. The week beforehand, people would be piling up whatever wood they could find and bringing whatever fireworks they had to store in a big steel bucket, which dad would guard on the night and set off in whagever order he fancied until they were all gone. Night of the night, we'd have a half hundred potatoes wrapped in foil, ready to toss into the fire when it was dying down. There'd always be a chap with chestnuts to roast, and music, and broken up trays of fresh-made treacle toffee, and plenty of mulled wine and beer to go around. I really miss those days. Especially when the fireworks went wrong and shot into the crowd.
 
7.30-9pm? Come on now.

(Excused if you’re busy with work, family shit, or vidya)
Yes. Because then I have to put back all the other shit. If I'm out having a bonfire for hours then it means I'm not taking the dog for a walk or cooking dinner or having a shower. Everything that I would normally do in that time I now have to do afterwards and suddenly it's 1am and I'm getting about 5 hours sleep. It's not impossible but why bother when I can just wait a few days until it's saturday? Why shove everything into one day when I can simply use the days that are there to do all the things you were too busy to do during the week?
chestnuts to roast
Fun fact conkers explode when put in a fire. That was always the best use for them. Like popcorn but less food and more ied.
 
It's not impossible but why bother when I can just wait a few days until it's saturday? Why shove everything into one day when I can simply use the days that are there to do all the things you were too busy to do during the week?
Tradition, my god. How will anyone at work know you were out celebrating the near destruction of the Parliament of old if you don’t turn up to work stinking of bonfires, half asleep and still with a dead sparkler in your pocket?

Honestly, people have no sense of tradition nowadays. (:_(
 
The thing which makes me laugh is that the Far Left & Russia are supposedly in bed together, whilst Russia is supposedly funding the Far Right, Nigel Farage and Reform UK at the same time.
Because they are not interested in what those groups are pushing, only that they continue to attack the government that is supporting Ukraine in the war they are currently in.

Its not a hard concept to grasp really, I struggle to see why so many people have no clue as to how non-linear conflicts are able to occur.
 

This would be my inspiration if I were to write a manifesto. The policies would flow from the logic of this speech.

This isn't Alan Watts verbatim, but AI generated. I don't think that dilutes what is a powerful and truthful message.

1. The chronically lazy - 80% of welfare claimants.
2. The perpetually ungrateful - immigrants
3. The arrogant and self righteous - Current PM
4. The habitually wicked - Tony Blair
5. The Incurably foolish - Socialist policy, Rachel Reeves in November.
6. The manipulator - I really hope this doesn't turn out to be Nigel Farage, but fear it is.
7. The unrepentant rebel - Conservative Party.

DISCERNMENT.
 
I'm surprised not to see this in this thread already. Perhaps it's been reported elsewhere but I didn't see it at a quick glance or maybe I just missed it.

Ellie Reynolds, one of the grooming gang survivors, has resigned from Labour's inquiry into it, calling it a cover-up and that its goal is to downplay any racial and religious aspects. Heart-breaking to read, really. You can tell exactly how they have behaved from what she writes. It's a process a lot of us have seen before in inquiries. Though seldom as sad a subject matter as this.

Makes my blood boil.



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I don't often make comments as I'm about to, because it falls into what is the zeitgeist of modern feminism and the woke crowd ( and always feels patronising to me by those that normally say it ).

But sincerely - what a brave and corageous woman. The fact that she is prepared to resign and not be bought off or coerced into what appears to be a government white washing of those terrible events, speaks much for her moral fortitude.
 
calling it a cover-up and that its goal is to downplay any racial and religious aspects.
I am honestly shocked. Not that they'd go to such lengths, but that they were so blatant and obvious about it. Their inability to appoint a chairman for so long has to be part of this; they clearly couldn't find anyone politically reliable enough to preserve the agenda who wasn't also an obvious political insider.

What sticks out to me is that the behaviours Ellie-Ann ascribes to the inquiry officials are exactly the same way an abuser behaves towards their targets. Isolation, manipulation, enforced dependency. She was very deliberate in highlighting these things.
 
I feel like part of the reason that Britain is lurching to the far right out of nowhere is because of shitty situations like this.

Something bad has happened? Lets do an Inquiry! Something that will last 5+ years and by the time it's finished I'm no longer in power and it's someone else who has to deal with it. Wait, the Inquiry has finished and revealed some HORRIBLE information? I'll just set in place a NEW Inquiry so the results of that can be pushed further into the future.

PLEASE JUST HAVE ONE MORE INQUIRY, ONE MORE WILL FIX THIS! WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FUCK WOULD A LABOUR FRONTED INQUIRY HAVE OVER THE CASEY REPORT THAT HAS EXPOSED THE LINKS BETWEEN ASIAN GANGS, THE POLICE, LOCAL COUNCILS AND A DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF TEENAGE WHITE GIRLS AS VICTIMS.

The Casey report should have seen at THE MINIMUM every single person still working for every council that was implicated be suspended until they were personally investigated. In a perfect world I'd have them hung regardless and then round up everyone who was named and burn them alive.

EDIT: replaced Cass report with Casey report. I confused the tranny report with the child rape report.
 
I feel like part of the reason that Britain is lurching to the far right out of nowhere is because of shitty situations like this.
I gave you an Agree but the one thing I'd quibble over is the use of the term "Far Right". The media blasts us with this day in day out until we even start using it ourselves. The things most of this country wants is very far from "Far Right". Just ordinary things that a hundred years ago would be taken for granted. Control of our borders, punishing criminals, not calling a man a woman... Just normal things.
 
I gave you an Agree but the one thing I'd quibble over is the use of the term "Far Right". The media blasts us with this day in day out until we start using it ourselves. The things most of this country wants is very far from "Far Right". Just ordinary things that a hundred years ago would be taken for granted.
I'd argue that while a bunch of people would prefer things to go back to how it was in the 80s and 90s, you can't really do that without an overcorrection. You can't just gently reduce migration, you have to rule with an iron fist so that in 20 years time it can be scaled back.

Hell, at a bare minimum I'd require the following:

  • Leaving the ECHR
  • Implementing the death penalty, possibly via referendum to spook the commons/lords to push it through fast enough.
Which would put me comfortably in "Hitler lite" ideology to the average person.
 
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