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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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UselessRubberKeyboard said:
Potato nigger, ready for duty Sir!


Had the dubious pleasure of a fruit pizza whilst in Germany. It was the usual pizza base, tomato sauce, melty cheese and onion bits on top, but also had mango and lychee pieces on it. It was actually bloody lovely.

Now, the curry I had with strawberries in was something else entirely. No thank you. Bananas in curry are fine. Strawberries, god no.


Read that as ‘Davros’ and didn’t even blink.


We’re going to Wem-bur-lee? Not if they still have VAR, we’re not. Fuck that bullshit.

Anyway, while our news is full of Gaza stuff, why am I supposed to care so much about Palestine (and not so much about any other war)? I genuinely couldn’t give a fuck about the Middle East. As long as they keep their stupid blow-a-fucker-up-for-nowt going on, they’re welcome to stay over there and carry on. But the moment you tell someone you don’t know about or care about Gaza, people look at you like you just said you always fancied giving Hitler a bj. What’s wrong with people?
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It's a case of 'must support the current thing'.

A bit like the annoying 'cool' kids in school who always bought what was #1 in the charts or dressed and acted in the latest socially acceptable way.

They wouldn't dare like 'old fart' music like The Beatles, Queen, Pink Floyd etc. because their status mattered more and they wanted to be seen as acceptable.

Interestingly, these kids peaked at school and then followed whatever was cool/acceptable so as to not feel lonely/isolated. They are weak, pompous, damaged people who need to be told 24/7 what is acceptable and what isn't.

We don't need to police others or be policed by them - we know war is horseshit and gay and we definitely don't make a big virtue signal of supporting team one or team two.

Thinking back to a speech by the Rugby great Jim Telfer, he mentioned that when Brits go abroad nowadays they look for a hotel with a pool, a pub which sells Guinness and a chip shop - that's it, they don't move outside that 'safe space' because 'anything outside it might be bad'. They take on nothing of what lies beyond the street the hotel is on - they are pignorant (pig ignorant) and by God are they ever proud of it. They IMO are very much like the 'must support and do current thing' types.
 
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I think Doomposting starts looking stupid when everything points toward things eventually getting better, like they are now. The people marching on the street in the thousands telling the illegals to fuck off is testament to that. Reform's polling and local election wins also point an optimistic picture as far as general sentiments are concerned. Even if Farage isn't the best, people voting Reform don't necessarily know that, but so long as you know a substantial number of people are like you in mindset, it gives some reason to be hopeful. I'm more optimistic that the 2030s will see us reverse course on a lot of shit, but I'm still not expecting the UK to be a utopia by the end of Farage's term.

That optimism for the future shouldn't translate into breaks from reality. Labour are absolutely fucked, but they're not going to throw away power because everyone despises them. Also, it's really another mundane motivation not to call one: money. An MPs salary is 94k, and you get a bonus that rounds it up to 100k if you leave it after 2 years. Calling an early election for "principles", or ousting your party leader to get one called early through precedent, is also risking you and your colleague's nearly 100k a year salary. One term as an MP you could probably afford to buy to pay off your mortgage, assuming you take transit to London (which can be paid for by the government). You'd be fucking over some people, even if a good few deserve it. Operating on the premise Starmer is human, he probably cares more about pissing off people he actually interacts with vs people he doesn't (the general public).

On the flipside, people also need to temper their hate with the actual facts around something. Creating schizo-fanfics of something the government may or may not do to keep pissed off when nothing's happening at the moment achieves nothing. Convincing yourself some bullshit could happen doesn't mean it will.

Consider the digital ID thing: looking under the hood for 5 minutes, you see how the government is still limited by reality (the truly dystopian elements of the OSA for example couldn't be implemented because the technology hasn't been invented yet) and their own competency (a contemporary Western government isn't Big Brother) so we get this nothing burger that none of us will be thinking about until we're informed it was quietly scrapped, or it was implemented but makes no appearance in our day to day lives otherwise.

The government is made up of people with enough memorisation skill to get a degree and enough drive (with a pinch of sociopathy) to become a career politician. They become smug midwits 95% of the time who rely on 5% of who became politicians to affect change. When that 5% is missing, that's when they listen to the WEF and shit because they have no authority figures to listen to, even when they themselves have become that figure. Politicians without a competent leader are basically just Redditors. "Listen to the experts!" and whatnot, or copying shit done by past leaders 20-40 years ago, or just copying what other countries and party leaders are doing outright (See UK DOGE). The digital ID idea is just copying Blair's proposal from 2004, which was just him sucking off the EU who was trying to implement mandatory ID cards across all its members, which you haven't really thought about because the dystopian "mandatory ID" of the EU is still confined by reality and was basically killed in purpose by gimmedats.

TLDR: Users on this forum have more imagination, creativity, and capability for hypothetical evil than a good 99% of politicians, for better or worse. Also there's too many reasons for Labour to not call an early election regardless of how much people hate them for mundane reasons that make them too human. Also levels of utter seethe for the electorate and evil =/= competency.

If there is an early election it'll be in 2028 when all the MPs can qualify for a bonus/pension.
 
UselessRubberKeyboard said:
Anyway, while our news is full of Gaza stuff, why am I supposed to care so much about Palestine (and not so much about any other war)?
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Because the media needs to implant the idea that browns are being literally genocided so people ask less questions when they come here as 'refugees'. Most people can't tell the difference between the average arab and an indian so a war in gaza is perfectly good reasoning for indians to flee that war.
 
This is where Starmer really shows as being a dictator, though. He is purposefully creating these Digital ID stories for two reasons: fear or control, technically, stupidity too, but I digress.

Any of us in this thread who know tech structure knows that what Starmer is proposing would take a decade to implement the structure. The UK does not however have the power grid capabilities to carry this out. He thinks he can have this done in 2 years. Which department is doing it? Are you creating your own department to monitor it? The OSINT needed for the team's clearance would take months. You need to rewrite GDPR as the information is viewable and breaches it. Starmer is saying AI will monitor it too, how? You just cannot order AI like a fucking dog. He is not even saying how it will be structured.

The stupid fuck still thinks it will cost 2 billion, you would need about 2 data centres, and the cost alone for those is about 1 billion minimum. This was contradicted the day after the announcement when a minister said each person would cost £100 to put data on a data bank. He is trying to seriously not get a vote through on this shit, too.
 
UselessRubberKeyboard said:
Anyway, while our news is full of Gaza stuff, why am I supposed to care so much about Palestine (and not so much about any other war)? I
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This fucking annoys me. Nothing but Iranian funded propaganda on the BBC and ITV news all day, I head to take a train across country and there’s no train services because of some retardation or another. Nothing in the media about.

That’s national news that should be getting reported as it actually effects people living here and not 24 hour non-stop tragedy porn about gangs of sand gypsies who deserve it,
 
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nearly 100k a year salary. One term as an MP you could probably afford to buy to pay off your mortgage
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Hahaha, no. With the tax rates as they are, you're still only bringing home about £5k a month. Even with aggressive over payments early on, no way are you getting a mortgage paid off on an average priced home in 4-5 years.
 
Clem Fandango said:
Hahaha, no. With the tax rates as they are, you're still only bringing home about £5k a month. Even with aggressive over payments early on, no way are you getting a mortgage paid off on an average priced home in 4-5 years.
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On the one hand yes, but on the other, they save as much money as possible and put everything damn thing on expenses. Cuts back on outlay a lot.

Other half has no mortgage and cleared it off on a similar income over a couple years. The security of having your own home outright was worth the short term financial pinch.
 
BongoMongo said:
On the one hand yes, but on the other, they save as much money as possible and put everything damn thing on expenses. Cuts back on outlay a lot.

Other half has no mortgage and cleared it off on a similar income over a couple years. The security of having your own home outright was worth the short term financial pinch.
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I thought they had knocked that sort of thing on the head after the whole duck moat thing.

Anyway, I just wanted to point out that the MP salary is not the boon that some seem to think it is. The maths is a bit more involved than "100k times five years equals half a million quid". We're taxed out the arse in this country, especially when you get around six figures.
 
In regards to Sir Keith's resignation/Labour collapse, not much is really likely to happen this year barring some extreme out of the blue scandal. Really, the main focus should be on next May's local elections and the fallout from that. Labour are currently slated to be wiped out pretty much every where, which will no doubt massively bolster the calls to oust Starmer as leader from the Labour backbenchers.

However, May is also the start of the conference season for the unions. This is relevant because every year a few of the Labour afiliated unions have motions proposing a split from Labour from their more lefty members and each year they've managed to be pushed back with the usual platitudes of needing to support Labour to get a union-friendly government in place or to get certain legislation passed. After 2 years in government and fuck all to show for it other than completely destroying the party from the inside-out there's a good chance that some of those conferences could vote in favour of disaffiliating. That's a large chunk of Labour's funding that could be at risk as well a lot of it's volunteers who are often union activists.

Needless to say, if Labour get wiped out at the ballot box and come close to losing a sizeable chunk of their funding we'll probably see some serious calls for a Vote of No Confidence or a wave of defections should that fail.
 
Clem Fandango said:
I thought they had knocked that sort of thing on the head after the whole duck moat thing.

Anyway, I just wanted to point out that the MP salary is not the boon that some seem to think it is. The maths is a bit more involved than "100k times five years equals half a million quid". We're taxed out the arse in this country, especially when you get around six figures.
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They absolutely have not. Look at whom your MP purchased IT equipment from during "COVID". In my MPs case they gave 3.5k to a friend who gave them IT kit.

Now this raises two questions: 1. Why didn't MPs have standard issue kit to WFH and 2. Why were they giving mates our money?

See also private dental care. MPs claim back the cost of private dental care for expenses.

They don't give a fuck you're ruining yourself to pay for dental care nor that you can't find an NHS dentist (or Indeed, that 170 people a year are turned down for the armed forces because of their dental health. Get your head around that) because they get you and me to pay for it.

Everything goes on expenses. Might not be stupid fripperies but it's absolutely shit they should be paying for themselves and in them not paying for it, they're shielding themselves from the reality of actual life nearly all people have to face.

Mussolini the fucking lot of them, tear the building down,salt the earth and start again imo.
 
How long until OFCOM default on Null's lawsuit?
...unless they already have.
 
IMF is predicting the UK will have the highest inflation of the G7 countries.
Latest data showed inflation stood at 3.8% and is forecast by the Bank of England to reach 4% by the end of the year.
The IMF, however, said it expected inflation to average at 3.4% in 2025, up from its previously predicted 3.2%.
That is forecast to slow to 2.5% this year, higher than the 2.3% anticipated just three months ago.
Food and services inflation had been particularly high in recent months due to rising wage bills and poor harvests.
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I take economic predictions with a grain of salt but its not looking good bruv...

Northern Labour MPs are also calling for council tax to be abolished because it doesn't accurately reflect house prices in the north and south (emphasis mine).
The Labour MPs wrote: “If we are to succeed in our mission to transform Britain and fight back against Reform, we must be bold and embrace new ideas that put more money back into the pockets of working people.
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"The result is a system that punishes communities like ours in the nations and regions outside London and the south-east.”
It comes just a day after researches at the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) urged Reeves to make property tax changes a priority.
This includes the proposal to scrap stamp duty.
The MPs putting forward the proposal have failed to table an alternative source of revenue to replace the tax.
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I vote we tax businesses for every foreigner they hire tbh. Reform should table that just to see the other parties scramble.
 
Heinrich Maneuver said:
IMF is predicting the UK will have the highest inflation of the G7 countries.

I take economic predictions with a grain of salt but its not looking good bruv...

Northern Labour MPs are also calling for council tax to be abolished because it doesn't accurately reflect house prices in the north and south (emphasis mine).


I vote we tax businesses for every foreigner they hire tbh. Reform should table that just to see the other parties scramble.
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Would be a way for Deliveroo and co. to be taxed out of existence, which I wholeheartedly support.
 
Well, you say that Just Eat and Deliveroo are slowly losing money. Deliveroo only just turned a profit, I think Just Eat will be gone by next year, the market for making a loss is brutal currently.
 
Kier Starmer said:
Well, you say that Just Eat and Deliveroo are slowly losing money. Deliveroo only just turned a profit, I think Just Eat will be gone by next year, the market for making a loss is brutal currently.
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We can but hope.

Did you see the MP's in shock at Starmer earlier on? He praised Trump, saying that 'peace wouldn't have been possible without him'...

Oh dear, Sir Keir...

Also with Digital ID, the angry trannies with detachable fannies are kicking off because they'll HAVE to identify one way or the other - it's unraveling faster than an old jumper.

Some good news is that the prat who threatened our Nigel is now starting a five year sentence.
 
Heinrich Maneuver said:
Northern Labour MPs are also calling for council tax to be abolished because it doesn't accurately reflect house prices in the north and south (emphasis mine).
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If they're smart, they'll propose a local sales tax, though I'd accompany that by abolishing VAT as well. It's a constant economic drain and a nightmare to administer, with a dead certainty that everyone involved will make a chargeable mistake while accounting it at some point. This is presumably why they love it to begin with; it's a guaranteed justification for a ten year audit and all the juicy fines that will generate.

I bet you they end up re-implementing the poll tax.
 
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