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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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If you really did want to get a gun illegally in the UK then I can assure you it is a hell of a lot easier then you would think it is. If anything it's easier then it has ever been due to huge amount of them flooding into the country as of late via boat scrounger among other things.
 
Most of the illegally produced firearms kicking about are blank firing pistols that have had the top-venting blank barrel cut off and a length of (often unrifled) steel tube bodged on, firing blank cartridges with BBs/air rifle pellets glued to the end.
Don't quote me on this but I remember hearing something about a lot of the blank conversions being imports too. I remember hearing something about blank fireers being imported from I think russia because over there the standards are more lax because why the fuck would you bother converting a blank when you could simply just buy a real gun at probably the same price. Honestly I would take up shooting but from looking at shit online yesterday just to check holy fuck literally all of the guns on all the sites I looked at were ugly as sin. Some were like half the price of a decent quality sword though which was kinda surprising, I would expect them to be like fags where 5% of the cost is the item and then it's jacked up with 95% tax or some shit but apparently not?
Still, you’ve got to respect the effort they put in which Brits don’t.
In all fairness. They're fucking Germans. Spending years overengineering something to do the same job as something you could make with some plumbing scraps is kinda their motto. The English brain simply cannot understand why a screw needs a locking screw that also needs it's own locking screw to secure something that is already friction fit and held in by a sliding bolt that doesn't move unless you unscrew a screw (that has it's own locking screw). You just don't understand what it means to be German smh.
Can you go into more detail without being arrested? Sounds interesting.
No. You can't. At least for the luty, you can for Mr Luty but owning the book on how to make a luty or anything like that is classed in the same category as owning a firearm or something like that. Basically he made a gun out of scrap from bnq to prove that our gun laws are retarded and then the lawmakers turned around and said that his piece of paper detailing what he did is actually a firearm. The luty itself is the most basic gun you could ever make. A pistol caliber open bolt blowback is about as mechanically complicated as a staple gun. It is about one step up from the brazilian slamfire guns that are literally just two pipes with a handle welded on them. In relative terms it's like making a chair, you can't just do it, you still need skill and knowledge but it's possibly the easiest thing to make that needs skill and knowledge.
I didn't tube your missus.
Is this how science teachers flirt? What is a test tube but a coward's jar?
 
Don't quote me on this but I remember hearing something about a lot of the blank conversions being imports too. I remember hearing something about blank fireers being imported from I think russia because over there the standards are more lax because why the fuck would you bother converting a blank when you could simply just buy a real gun at probably the same price.
It used to be Baikal gas guns designed to fire either tear gas cartridges or hard rubber balls for self defense that were the preferred choice, these days it's Retay or Ekol blank firers coming in from Turkey.

If you are only seeing ugly guns you're looking in the wrong places, though aesthetics are a matter of personal taste. Anything from old wooden antiques to modern plastic fantastic stuff is available.
 
If you are only seeing ugly guns you're looking in the wrong places, though aesthetics are a matter of personal taste. Anything from old wooden antiques to modern plastic fantastic stuff is available.
It's 90% plastic shit. The only wooden things were idk, you know how you can just tell the difference between some ikea tier shit and a good old fashioned properly made furniture. I don't know how to put it, everything looked like it was trying (and failing) to look classic and antique instead of just looking like an antique. Idk for something more expensive than a car they sure don't look it. I'll just stick to tapping on old people's walls and go that way.
 
It is about one step up from the brazilian slamfire guns that are literally just two pipes with a handle welded on them.
Oh no, the Brazilians have advanced beyond those, in the same way Orks progress from zip guns made of scrap metal to shootas made of scrap metal.


I believe one of them was even caught in possession of a .50 BMG blowback weapon.

Oh, and for those wanting to see the Luty in action instead of merely discussed, have American mad lad Brandon Herrera.
 
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The only wooden things were idk, you know how you can just tell the difference between some ikea tier shit and a good old fashioned properly made furniture.
Just fyi and completely off topic. wales is a great place for furniture for exactly that reason. In the 30s or 20s the Quakers came over to help retrain ex miners in their style of joinery. I forget the exact name of the style but it’s basically only in wales now and half of it ends up in charity shops without the shops realising what it’s worth.
 
Nah they're more like the imperium, all of the best weapons are relics of a long lost civilisation that they can only hope to crudely imitate. Or maybe more eldar, mostly because no one gives a shit about them. But I more meant that brazil is the only country that actually uses slamfire pipes. I think the 50cal was some sort of automatic thing wasn't it?
basically only in wales now
Wales; a land so fucking forgettable and empty it has managed to resist ikeaification simply by being too empty for them to bother opening a store there. That or it's just the west coast in general being so wet that ikea's cardboard dogshit melts from just the latent humidity. Also fun wales fact but apparently the fucking tip of it is an island? I always thought it was just a river but no it's entirely surrounded by sea. Anglesey is the largest island you can walk to in the country by like 100x. Well unless you start there and walk back to the mainland that's also an island. Idk I didn't think islands that close existed, I thought they were all either tiny little things you could walk to or massive things you'd need to be insane to even attempt swimming to.
 
Justin Fletcher wouldn't be a surprise to me. Skeeves me out in a similar way to how Saville did. Sometimes I wonder if I'm being unfair to the man, but trusting my gut has been pretty accurate before now.
I’m glad someone else has said it now-a lot of my friends thought I was losing it a bit when I said to them that something was deeply off about him. Something about how he acts just doesn’t sit well with me and there’s skeletons in that man’s closet, I can just feel it.
 
They make you uncomfortable? Good. If you're not comfortable then fuck off back home. If you are not comfortable with a country's identity and culture then don't come here. It's as retarded as saying they feel uncomfortable saying 'england' because the angles were german and they did a hollocaust and that was bad we should instead call it some fucking retarded line thing instead.
Personally I think that skyrocketing crime especially violent and sexual makes me feel uncomfortable so am I allowed to start hanging my own things from the lampposts instead?

Also can someone get him some fucking robitussin and a tissue ffs? Or is he meant to sound like a shit version of kermit?
 
"Being British is about supporting the English football team."
That's at least three countries prepared to tell you that you are not just wrong but genuinely retarded.

Open calls for propaganda
A compelling drama about refugees living in Britain could be one way to defuse the rising anger and anti-migrant sentiment in the UK, according to the award-winning actor Jonathan Pryce, who said great TV or film could “open up” the issue.
Pryce told the Guardian that at present the British public has no idea about the day-to-day realities for people living in migrant hotels.

“People aren’t aware of the facts concerning the homeless, concerning immigrants, legal or otherwise. And so this sort of fear and anger builds up about something they don’t really know anything about,” he said.
“It’s an issue that does need to be opened up and explored to a greater extent, and it has to be through drama, which is often the best way to tell somebody’s emotional story.”

Pryce, who was Oscar-nominated for playing Pope Francis in the movie The Two Popes, and appeared recently in The Thursday Murder Club, was talking ahead of the London film festival screening of Hotel London, a 1987 drama he starred in that highlighted homelessness, immigration and bigotry in the capital at the height of Thatcherism.
Shot during the era of “cardboard cities” when thousands of people slept rough around the UK, the film, directed by Ahmed Alauddin Jamal, centred on a south Asian family who had been evicted and found themselves crammed into one room in a bed and breakfast hotel.
Jamal managed to get a script put into Pryce’s pigeonhole at the Royal Shakespeare Company while the actor was playing Macbeth in Stratford.
“I’d just seen Jonathan in The Ploughman’s Lunch and I said, wouldn’t it be great to get Jonathan Pryce?” recalls Jamal, who opportunistically asked a friend at the RSC to get his script in front of Pryce. “Obviously, everybody thought it was a bit of a joke.”
But Pryce was taken by the subject matter. “I was very aware at the time of cardboard city on the South Bank and very aware of the need that something had to be done about social housing and it wasn’t being done,” he said.
By 1987 when the film was shot, house price inflation, rising unemployment, an increase in the number of people with drink, drug and mental health problems, and a ban on 16- and 17-year-olds claiming housing benefits all combined to create a growing homelessness problem.
Pryce, whose character was an Irish homeless man who befriends the patriarch of the south Asian family, said the story opened up an unseen world to viewers, and that approach should be used again.
“You see the stories of the health service, you see the activists and the protesters about the immigration. You don’t see inside the hostel or the hotel where they are, and the conditions in which they’re living,” he said. “You can’t hear their stories.
Shot on a shoestring budget, Hotel London was part of the workshop movement, when the newly established Channel 4 supported independent collectives of filmmakers.
By 1988, the channel had worked with 44 workshops: there was Amber in Newcastle, the Birmingham Film and Video Workshop, the Liverpool Black Media Group and London-based groups the Black Audio Film Collective, Sankofa and Ceddo.
The movement became a breeding ground for British talent from the margins. John Akomfrah, who would go on to represent Britain at the 2024 Venice Biennale, was a founding member of the Black Audio Film Collective.
Isaac Julien got his start as part of Sankofa, alongside Maureen Blackwood, while Menelik Shabazz and Imruh Bakari made uncompromising films at Ceddo, including the landmark Burning an Illusion. Jamal’s Retake Film and Video Collective was also part of the wave.
“It really changed who could make films in the UK,” said Will Fowler, curator at the British Film Institute’s national archive.
Hotel London was one of several dramas that were commissioned and often shown in late-night slots. Many projects were only screened once. The BFI is restoring about a dozen titles as part of a continuing project and is screening Hotel London on 16 October.
Journalists have dedicated safety officers in every UK police force, unlike the mere plebs who can hang
Every UK police force now has a dedicated officer for journalists facing threats of abuse and violence, the government has said.
Journalist safety liaison officers (JSLOs) form part of a "strengthened partnership" between police, government and media professionals, who have increasingly become targets both online and on the ground, it said.
"Too often, journalists are put in harm's way while fulfilling their vital role of delivering accurate news to the public," said Media Minister Ian Murray. "It is only right that they feel supported and protected."
The Society of Editors and the News Media Association welcomed the move, while the National Union of Journalists (NUJ) called it a "crucial milestone".
All 43 forces in England and Wales, the British Transport Police and Counter Terror Policing now have a JSLO, the Department for Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) said.
This is in addition to pre-existing JSLOs in Scotland and Northern Ireland.
The DCMS said the officers can provide safety guidance ahead of high-risk reporting, such as protests, and ensure crimes against journalists are consistently recorded and addressed.
The officers were appointed as part of the government's national action plan for the safety of journalists, launched by the previous Conservative administration in October 2023.
In recent years, there have been rising fears that press freedom is coming increasingly under attack.
Among the most high profile cases was the murder of Lyra McKee, who was shot while observing a rioting in the Creggan estate in Derry in April 2019.
In June, a report by Amnesty International - dedicated in part to Ms McKee - found that there had been 71 attacks or threats on journalists in Northern Ireland since 2019.


Lyra McKee died after being hit by a bullet while observing rioting in Creggan in 2019
Dozens of journalists reported receiving death and bomb threats, while some said they had installed bullet-proof windows, reinforced doors, panic buttons and CCTV cameras to protect them in their homes.
The report also found that many journalists no longer reported threats due to "time consuming processes and lack of action or positive outcome".
Murray said he hoped by appointing a JSLO in every police force that reporters would "feel reassured knowing they have a direct point of contact if issues arise".
A spokesperson for the National Police Chiefs Council (NPCC) said it was "proud" to have worked alongside the government on the establishment of JSLOs.
NUJ Secretary-General Laura Davision said the move would be welcomed by reporters.
"No journalist should ever face threats or abuse as part of their role, and ensuring designated contacts to approach serves as a crucial milestone in providing practical, vital support to journalists when needed most," she said.
Dawn Alford, chief executive of the Society of Editors, said it was "a vital step in ending impunity for crimes against journalists", while News Media Association chief executive Owen Meredith called it a "very welcome initiative.
A spokesperson for the National Police Chiefs Council (NPCC) said it was "proud" to have worked alongside the government on the establishment of JSLOs.
"We will continue to play our part in ensuring that journalists are protected and empowered to do their jobs without fear or intimidation," Deputy Chief Constable Sam de Reya added.
Concerns over journalists' safety extend beyond the UK.
According to the latest data from the US-based Committee to Protect Journalists (CJP), 104 journalists and media workers were killed worldwide in 2024. It said a further 375 had been imprisoned, while 70 others were missing.

Latest SNP fantasy version of Independence has dropped
The Bank of England would step in to help an independent Scotland in a financial crisis, the SNP leader has insisted as he launched an economic blueprint for separation later branded by critics as “fantasy”.
John Swinney said that the Bank would continue to act as lender of last resort while an independent Scotland initially used the pound, despite it having left the UK.
His new blueprint said Scotland would switch to its own currency at the first opportunity but Mr Swinney admitted this would not be worth the same as sterling.
An estimated £35bn of reserves would have to be raised to protect the new currency from economic shocks and speculators but the paper contained few details on how this would be done.

It claimed independence would make Scottish households more than £10,000 per year better off but did not spell out how it would deal with the country’s deficit, which official figures show would be the largest in Europe.

A leading Scottish macroeconomist told The Telegraph that the currency plan was a “totally shambolic policy and clearly would have a devastating effect”.
Prof Ronald MacDonald, of Glasgow University’s Adam Smith Business School, warned that keeping the pound after independence would mean unprecedented austerity and “crippling high borrowing rates”.
He said this was because Scotland would have to raise the money in sterling every year to meet its annual balance of payments deficit, which currently stands at around £22bn.
Prof MacDonald said this would mean switching the new Scottish currency “immediately” after independence.
However, this would have a “sharply devalued rate” compared to sterling, which would feed into the value of Scots’ wages and pensions.
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The Scottish Tories attacked Mr Swinney for producing “yet another fantasy paper” on independence and argued he should “move on” to fixing Scotland’s public services.

Mr Swinney unveiled the paper ahead of this weekend’s SNP conference in Aberdeen, where he faces a showdown with party rebels over the party’s independence policy.
The First Minister has tabled a motion arguing that the only way to force the Prime Minister to allow another referendum is for the SNP to win an outright majority at next year’s Holyrood election.
But rebels who believe this sets the bar too high have lodged an amendment arguing that independence-supporting parties, including Alba and the Greens, would have a mandate to open divorce negotiations with the UK Government if they together win a majority of the popular vote. No referendum would be required.
The Nationalists struggled to come up with a lucid currency policy ahead of the 2014 referendum after the UK Government ruled out a sterling currency union.

Mr Swinney’s new paper said Scotland would initially use sterling unilaterally, in the same way countries like Panama use the US dollar, before switching to a Scottish pound.

However, Scotland would have no central bank or lender of last resort while it used the currency of another country.
It would also have to have enough sterling reserves to meet its balance of payments deficit.
Mr Swinney said: “Obviously, while we’re using pound sterling, the lender of last resort is the Bank of England.”
Pressed why the UK’s central bank would step in to help an independent Scotland in economic crisis, he said: “They anchor sterling.”

But Prof MacDonald said: “I was astonished to read the Scottish Government’s latest take on its currency proposal for an independent Scotland, contained in its latest paper on the macroeconomics.
“Astonished because of the apparent total ignorance of the SNP’s understanding of the currency issue, which has remained unchanged since 2014.”
He said Scotland could continue to use sterling immediately after independence but this was “incompatible” with meeting its balance of payments deficit of around 10 per cent of GDP.

Raising the necessary sterling reserves to pay this bill “would entail massive austerity policies the like of which has not been seen hitherto in the UK”, he warned.

Prof MacDonald said this would force an immediate move to the new Scottish currency “at a sharply devalued rate”.
“The latter will have key implications for public sector wages, pensions and also household and business borrowings denominated in sterling,” he said.
The economist estimated Scotland would require £35bn of reserves to stand behind a new currency, based on the value of Norway’s reserves.
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Mr Swinney’s blueprint said a separate Scotland would build up sterling reserves “if” households and businesses chose to swap their UK pounds for the new Scottish ones.
It also said Scotland would inherit a share of the Bank of England’s reserves but did not mention this would be swallowed up by the balance of payments bill.
Scotland’s deficit – the difference between total revenue and expenditure – surged to 11.7 per cent of GDP in 2024-25.
This was more than double the UK figure of 5.1 per cent and higher than anywhere else in Europe.
The shortfall remains notional while Scotland is part of the UK but would have to be tackled after independence.
However, the paper contained no policies for cutting spending or raising taxes.
Instead, it claimed that households would be more than £10,000 each better off if Scotland’s economic performance matched that of “comparable countries”.

The paper also said a new service would be set up to manage the trading impact of the hard border that would be created with England if Scotland joined the EU.
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Rachael Hamilton, Scottish Tory deputy leader, said: “John Swinney’s launch of yet another fantasy paper on the SNP’s independence obsession shows how out of touch he is with ordinary Scots.

“On his watch, Scotland’s NHS is on life support, school discipline has collapsed, our roads are crumbling and household bills are soaring, yet his priority is breaking up the UK.”
Michael Marra, Scottish Labour’s finance spokesman, said: “John Swinney should be embarrassed at these baseless claims which are entirely detached from reality.”

BBC staff believe anything posted on social media (telling that the Guardian and Independent both "fact check" stuff about the Blairs)
The arrival of a generation of young producers “marinated in social media” led to a false claim about Euan Blair being broadcast on Have I Got News For You, the production chief behind the show has said.
The first in a new series of the BBC show featured an incorrect claim that the company run by the son of the former prime minister Tony Blair had been given the contract to run the government’s new digital ID system.

It fuelled online accusations that it explained his father’s strong support for ID cards.
Jimmy Mulville, the founder of the programme’s producers Hat Trick Productions, said he wanted to highlight the dangers of “digital native” producers taking widely circulated claims from X, formerly Twitter, without questioning their veracity.

“What was interesting is that because we now have generations of younger producers who are coming into the business – and they are digital natives – they’re marinated in social media,” he said on Insiders: The TV Podcast.
“Apparently, the story was put on by a freelance journalist, I won’t mention her name, who put [it] on her Twitter feed. And no one questioned it.
“It’s a low-level mistake but nevertheless, it is indicative. It was good to spot it, because what you wouldn’t want to do is just to make some kind of egregious claim about somebody and it is defamatory.”
The BBC’s broadcast of the claim comes amid increasing concern over online misinformation reaching the mainstream media, with media workers often users of platforms such as X, owned by the billionaire Elon Musk. The post about Blair, which is still on the site, has been viewed almost 3m times.
Blair’s company, Multiverse, offers apprenticeship programmes and tech-related training, but has said it is not involved in the proposed digital ID project and does not have the expertise to oversee it.

Mulville said the production team’s rules had been tightened in relation to using information from social media. “When you make a mistake in a show, you have to own up to it,” he said. “And last week, we made a mistake.”
The BBC has apologised for airing the false claim. The episode was taken down from iPlayer last weekend and updated, with the incorrect claim removed. Victoria Coren Mitchell, the host of the show who read out the claim, has also made clear on social media that it is not true.
 
I doubt Colin can put together a high powered machine gun
Doubt no longer, like I say everytime I get the chance to I got to see a room full of sten guns made of bedposts one time, they'd probably jam on every other shot but that's why Seamus mass produces them. Guns/bombs/most things in general (with the exception of nuclear bombs) aren't that difficult to make, complicated yes, but not difficult, fortunately being a nasty evil terrorist generally requires failing an IQ test so it doesn't happen more often, but have no doubt; it does happen.
 
Open calls for propaganda
Sir Johnathan Pryce, the actor who has never done a days hard graft in his life?

I've got a better idea, how about a compelling drama about the white working class in a dilapidated post-industrial northern shit hole having their heritage and culture ripped away from them by sub-human monsters. Being pushed out of the areas where their parents grew up, all the shop signs slowly turning into a foreign language, selling foreign goods. Getting hostile looks and spat at by people dressed like they belong in a stage production. The climactic scene, in a homage to 1984, could be a young white girl being gang raped into learning to love Big Cuzzeh.

If these people understood just how loathed they and their swarthy pets are, they'd shit a brick and flee for New Zealand in a heartbeat.
 
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