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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

While Diroma talks like a eunuch faggot (square that circle) they aren't wrong. The government has to choose to kill itself. I'm completely unconvinced that there's any real reason for it to do that. Everyone in Labour knows they are hated and despised and deeply unpopular. Why wouldn't they just stick their earplugs in and ride it out until the next election? There's no real benefit for them to pull the trigger; and the few people that it would benefit have no way of getting into power without everyone else in Labour deciding they want to be unemployed.

EDIT: While I'm sure an election early is technically possible, I think the best thing to do is batten down the hatches, keep complaining; but get ready to just live in the Labour police state until 2029. Failing that you can do [THAT THING THAT I CAN'T SAY] to [THOSE PEOPLE] using [THERMOFISCHER SCIENTIFIC AND TEMU] to make them.

 

[Kane Lives]

While Diroma talks like a eunuch faggot (square that circle) they aren't wrong. The government has to choose to kill itself. I'm completely unconvinced that there's any real reason for it to do that. Everyone in Labour knows they are hated and despised and deeply unpopular. Why wouldn't they just stick their earplugs in and ride it out until the next election? There's no real benefit for them to pull the trigger; and the few people that it would benefit have no way of getting into power without everyone else in Labour deciding they want to be unemployed.

EDIT: While I'm sure an election early is technically possible, I think the best thing to do is batten down the hatches, keep complaining; but get ready to just live in the Labour police state until 2029. Failing that you can do [THAT THING THAT I CAN'T SAY] to [THOSE PEOPLE] using [THERMOFISCHER SCIENTIFIC AND TEMU] to make them.

The only remotely plausible theory that I can see happening is Kier himself actually being as big a sore loser as @Made In Wales seem to think. In which case, I can totally believe a narc like him being petty enough to bring down the government because he can't rule. I don't see it happening though, far too much money is at stake, and I feel like he'd simply meet a convenient accident should TPTB get whiff that he plans to do that.

 

[the rat]

While Diroma talks like a eunuch faggot (square that circle) they aren't wrong. The government has to choose to kill itself. I'm completely unconvinced that there's any real reason for it to do that. Everyone in Labour knows they are hated and despised and deeply unpopular. Why wouldn't they just stick their earplugs in and ride it out until the next election? There's no real benefit for them to pull the trigger; and the few people that it would benefit have no way of getting into power without everyone else in Labour deciding they want to be unemployed.

EDIT: While I'm sure an election early is technically possible, I think the best thing to do is batten down the hatches, keep complaining; but get ready to just live in the Labour police state until 2029. Failing that you can do [THAT THING THAT I CAN'T SAY] to [THOSE PEOPLE] using [THERMOFISCHER SCIENTIFIC AND TEMU] to make them.

I'm going to keep praying to the big man upstairs that it happens just so that I can see you make that Warwick Davis thread. You know it's your destiny.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

Well, it's so bad for Keith that he has chosen to LARP as Tony Blair 2.0. Listen to his speech the other day, you could feel that Habsburg ginger fucker whispering in his ear what to say.

This government is illegal and corrupt; all it is going to be scandal after scandal until nothing is left.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

The Brit thread is becoming more politisperging than the yank one.

 

[diroama]

This government is illegal

Illegal in what way?

 

[Otterly]

call this childish because it's the politics of immediate gratification with no forsight beyond the next news cycle.

There is no feedback loop of any consequence between poor performance and those in charge. They waltz in, make things worse and even if they’re fired they swan off into megabucks roles in consultancy or other such chummy jobs.
This is a problem. I see it in my work, where projects are bid and sold by people who promise the earth on crap budgets, and then get a lovely big bonus, hand it off to operations (me) and when I say guys - we can’t deliver this at all, or we can’t on this budget, I AM THE PROBLEM . There’s no feedback. No penalty at all for promising the moon on a stick.
This happens at country scale. I often joke on here about whatever culture it was that had the chief big wig sit at a desk covered with the skin of the last predecessor who failed, to sharpen his mind, but it’s a fair point. There is no feedback.
Voting them out does nothing. They fear nothing. They see never a single moment of consequence for failure or malign neglect.
Until there are genuine consequences there will be no change.
When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty.
But consequences hit the political class when, and only when, they anger or fail their own who hold the strings of power - look at sarkozy, who just got a jail sentence.
So the question is how do we put that feedback loop back in? How do we make the people in charge face the reality of what they do to us? I would t have any sort of GE triggering - I’d make it a rule that everyone in charge lives in the poorest, most deprived ward of their domain, with no security. Their children go to the lowest performing schools.
What we have is a consequence of having a political social class, who are completely insulated from every consequence of their own actions. Kings in days gone by at least faced men with sharp swords to keep them halfway honest, and had an interest in maintaining the pace so they could pass it on to their descendents.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

It really, really isn't. This is just breathless hyperbole fueled by social media.

No. Mostly fuelled by several independant polls and the entirety of the media and talking to people irl. Maybe those aren't the best metrics but they are the best I have access to. Yea maybe the country isn't about to go be the second nepal and burn down whitehall unfortunately but there is an incredibly clear and measurable hatred of the government in every facet that is significantly higher than the average. I don't want a clause put in the government that a ge should be held if the approval drops by over 20% just for this government or because I hate keir. I want fucking any form of accountability in government. Right now they can do whatever the fuck they want and they know there is nothing you can do to stop it. Sign all the petitions you want, go to all the rallies and write to your mp. Didn't stop the osa and won't repeal it, not going to stop DID and certainly not going to stop the boats. Said it many times before but politicians should be scared. They should fear the repercussions of their actions on an immediate level. Until the fucking provos get the mortars or the peasantry the cannons again having some sort of rule that 'if everyone hates you then you fuck off' is the only thing I can think of that would work.

While Diroma talks like a eunuch faggot (square that circle) they aren't wrong. The government has to choose to kill itself. I'm completely unconvinced that there's any real reason for it to do that.

Yea I agree. That's the problem. I don't disagree that the government will just refuse to kill itself. My problem is that despite the writing on the wall being that it should it can simply refuse to.

The Brit thread is becoming more politisperging than the yank one.

Politics in my political thread? GRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean it's this or I go outside and say the same shit and get arrested in minutes so.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

Politics in my political thread? GRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean it's this or I go outside and say the same shit and get arrested in minutes so.

Brit News Megathread not Britpol Megasperg thread.

We're all to blame because it's that crap time of the year where nothing good happens and it's a crap time in civilisation where nothing good happens.

Realistically, what we need to fix the country isn't going to happen until it's tits-up for the west. So laugh at Starmer and be merry, for tomorrow, we could all die.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

Illegal in what way?

When the very existence of you getting in is via illegal funds, then at your very core, you are illegitimate. He is not even following his manifesto either.

 

[diroama]

What we have is a consequence of having a political social class, who are completely insulated from every consequence of their own actions.

This is entirely true. And we are burdoned with political leaders - of all persuasions - who are intellectual pygmies compared to their forebears.

And I don't think this is a problem isolated to the UK.

Frankly I think the only thing that could reset this is a major, global armed conflict.

 

[Otterly]

intellectual pygmies

There is no culture of service any more. There are no more Kingdom Brunels working for the infrastructure side of things and no more beveridges for the war on poverty.
Whether you agreed with politicians of that ilk or not, they were more focused and eloquent and aimed to get of things like the five great evils.
Now we have utter retards like rayner and reeves. They grub about getting their own nests fully lined then fuck off to some think tank and never worry about money, live in gated areas, and are totally insulated from their consequences. It bothers me that the people in charge are so venal, but it bothers me more that they’re so bloody dim. I could do a better job. They’re all operated by pressure from places like NGOs, world bodies etc - all unelected, never transparent, and never working for US. We have allowed this to happen.
I don’t want a civil war. I’m only middle aged and within just my lifetime things were Ok. I want people in charge who are competent, capable and who are moral, and care for their country.

major, global armed conflict.

The only outcome from that will be the same as the last two times. The young men of this country will be marched off to die for foreign wars and to enrich the very class of people who caused it. The next generation will be traumatised and there will be fewer native Brits alive at the end. No more wars. We can get rid of every last one of the parasitic demons who brought us to this and then nothing more. Not a drop of blood of ours shed for anyone’s share price.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

The only outcome from that will be the same as the last two times. The young men of this country will be marched off to die for foreign wars and to enrich the very class of people who caused it. The next generation will be traumatised and there will be fewer native Brits alive at the end. No more wars. We can get rid of every last one of the parasitic demons who brought us to this and then nothing more. Not a drop of blood of ours shed for anyone’s share price.

There is zero chance our youth goes off to foreign wars IMO. The youth hate this country and what it's become. If you told them they were going to war for this country they would go to against this country.

 

[William Murderface]

This is entirely true. And we are burdoned with political leaders - of all persuasions - who are intellectual pygmies compared to their forebears.

And I don't think this is a problem isolated to the UK.

Frankly I think the only thing that could reset this is a major, global armed conflict.

It could also take a mass swelling of normies just saying "enough" all at once. We've seen it before in history more than once. Something minor happens and before you know it, the heads of kings are on pikes. That's the trick though: no one is sure just what the moment or event that cause the whole thing to come crashing down will be and the political/noble class will be caught flatfooted again not believing that this could really be happening despite their best laid plans to keep it under control.

 

[Made In Wales]

Wouldn't normally post a sports report from the BBC here, but take a look at the reporters name:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cwyw828r298o

https://archive.md/wip/IeeYl

Steal my toilet indeed...

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

I looked at the party conference line-up, well fuck me up, it looks just awful. Is Starmer even speaking there? Trevor Philips did a poll at the conference and 53% of members want him gone. Starmer is at the conference and is apparently speaking on Tuesday. A couple of podcasters are branding this Battle of the Beige! They're falling for their own trap inward, where Burnham is running a campaign on vibes. Starmer was that somewhat but for the GE, but now they are gaslighting themselves. Good job on the new homes, too Keith. They will not even be built by 2029.

The Tory conference is going to be a funeral.

Good job Keith, branding people racists because you have given Nigel the keys. They harp on about "Orange man bad!" But never assess the reason. You set him up as the underdog, and people listen to the underdog; thus, they listen to Nigel. His deportation stuff is getting better. I even agreed with Yusef earlier.

 

[Overly Serious]

There are no more Kingdom Brunels working for the infrastructure side of things and no more beveridges for the war on poverty.

We are kept very carefully out of any real positions of influence or even positions that might lend weight to our voices. We are "not a good fit for the culture" and that's it. There are few things more anathema to the bureaucrat than the engineer. We are natural enemies.

There is zero chance our youth goes off to foreign wars IMO. The youth hate this country and what it's become. If you told them they were going to war for this country they would go to against this country.

I know people who've gone off to fight in Ukraine voluntarily, and the current conflict in Ukraine is the very epitome of a Globalist conflict not for the benefit of the people.

Only the political class @Otterly refers to benefits. Ukraine is also serving as a template to the Globalists of exactly how to force people to war. When they introduced conscription they targeted certain areas, smaller villages and towns, ramping it up little by little, they have barrier troops recruited from ultra-nationalists who are willing to shoot conscripts who wont advance. They've got it down to a science now and the Western leaders have been taking notes, I promise you. And to fill out any weak-points in willingness, the UK govt. now has a program with Nigeria whereby young Nigerian men can gain British citizenship in exchange for military service.

 

[Otterly]

There is zero chance our youth goes off to foreign wars IMO. The youth hate this country and what it's become. If you told them they were going to war for this country they would go to against this country.

I’m sure the lads in Ukraine, and the lads in Russia all said that too. Yet they got rounded up to be blown up by drones.
When you see the TikTok campaign to get the women on board with the white feathers, start worrying.

 

[Crunkle]

The Tory conference is going to be a funeral.

Been looking forward to it more than the Labour one. Hope one of them cries on stage.

In some actually decent news from a Labour government, the Home Secretary is going to announce tomorrow that all migrants applying for Indefinite Leave to Remain must:

• Have volunteered in their community
• Be employed & paying NI
• Not be receiving benefits
• Speak English to a high standard
• Have no criminal record

Who says Reform are useless outside of government? It obviously won't be applied properly and I doubt anyone will get removed from the country, but the most fascinating thing here is how Keir Starmer has actually called a good chunk of this policy 'racist'.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Who says Reform are useless outside of government? It obviously won't be applied properly and I doubt anyone will get removed from the country, but the most fascinating thing here is how Keir Starmer has actually called a good chunk of this policy 'racist'.

Just goes to show, you don't need to be in power to force change, even if it's a sop to try and pacify potential reform voters. The fact that it'll lose Starmer even more support among the no borders crowd is just icing on the cake.