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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[the rat]

Angela Ryner be like "Tell Keir. I want him to know it was me."

A reminder that you should think this in 're Ange's stuffy voice for extra dramatic effect.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

Polling nerd update​

Ipsos didn't just poll for PM ratings, they also released a fresh poll:

RFM: 34% (=)
LAB: 22% (-3)
CON: 14% (-1)
LDM: 12% (+1)
GRN: 12% (+3)

It’s not so much the Labour lack of support that surprises me, but the absolute lack of support for the Tories. Generations of Labour voters have seen their party gutted of its working class representation from Blair onwards, so reality was always going to win out from tradition there.

Wtf happened to the Tories though? I don’t know much about their traditional support base (scummy Norf FC resident), but they always seemed to have a solid grip on many constituencies no matter what. Boris and the Letuce really fucked them that much?

What this really shows is the utter lack of trust the population has in its democratic system, which is a dangerous state of affairs. Usually stems from politics working for itself rather than the voters. Meanwhile, subsequent governments are busy trying to keep power rather than sort the country out.

It scares me. God knows where this is going, but I worry that it’s not going anywhere good for the common working man/woman.

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

It’s not so much the Labour lack of support that surprises me, but the absolute lack of support for the Tories.

Labour are at pre Corbyn party levels.
Don’t be surprised if la our are down to 12% after too.

 

[Crunkle]

Wtf happened to the Tories though?

They got used to the idea that they deserved to be in government and became complacent and arrogant, especially since Cameron. They gave into Blair's very persuasive argument that we should import endless cheap foreign labour to keep our GDP line going up with absolutely no care or thought given to the cultural shift that would bring about. Japan is on this path now, too.

What we are living in now is a result of Tory and Labour policy: degraded society, degraded culture, our babies are being taught by YouTube, absolutely no community glue, dying economy, dying society.

Reform have just replaced them. They don't have 400+ years of baggage, they seem radical to most because I think now the whole country is beginning to wake up to the scale of the existential problem that we face as a result of 50+ years of rule under the Tories and Labour.

Go and read the Profumo scandal which took place in the early 60s. This scandal was simply because a minister started having sex with a woman who wasn't his wife. He ended up resigning and the Conservatives lost the 1964 election. To get the same level of scandal these days, Keir Starmer would have to do a full Xitter video where he beheads a kitten like an ISIS video.

That's my marker for cultural decline and political negligence that I use.

Oh yeah, and the pube-covered Malteser in charge puts a lot of people off.

 

[Crunkle]

It came out tonight that Starmer appears to have avoided paying inheritance tax on property that he gave his parents via a trust. But he was also a beneficiary of their estate so would never pay IT on the value of it.
Multiple experts in this field have said that he wouldn't have had to pay inheritance tax on this. No link/archive for this yet as the story has only been teased by the Sunday Times, but will be out fully tomorrow.

Full article is now out and it is very bad:
Sunday Times (Link / Archive)

The PM seems to have willfully avoided paying Inheritance Tax on a donkey field. He sold the field in 2022 when he was Labour leader.

According to probate documents, Starmer’s father’s estate had a net value of £374,091 on his death in December 2018. The field was first valued ahead of its sale in October 2022. Had it been included at the price for which it was ultimately sold, the size of the estate would have risen to £669,830.

The current threshold is 650k.

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Made this for anyone interested:

 

[ToroidalBoat]

A scenic tour of Current Year London!

"London 2025 Will Shock You …" - Two Mad Explorers

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Wtf happened to the Tories though? I don’t know much about their traditional support base (scummy Norf FC resident), but they always seemed to have a solid grip on many constituencies no matter what. Boris and the Letuce really fucked them that much?

Tories voter base were often rural people with two main issues.

Country life/sporting has been harmed by labour in the past. Blair impacted our ability to own guns quite severely and they were scared Labour would do it again. More gun bans, more bans on fox hunting, more bans on fishing, more bans on country life. The rich voted for it to protect their estates, the poor voted on it to protect their pigeon shooting. Both agreed Labour getting in power would mean harm to their way of life.

Immigration. The tories kept promising to change things and even if you didn't believe them labour was the foreigner and fag party. Tories might not be slowing it down but Labour would open the flood gates and make them all legal, give them a free car, house and all the benefits they want. They would put the pedal to the metal and had to be kept out of power or the country would be over.

Labour got into power and then the conservatives serve no purpose. They're not the dam against labour any more and Farage has always been popular with the Tory base because he looks old money and he speaks their language. He's a bit cheeky, he often wears old fashioned country clothing and he says fuck Islam. He shouldn't go after the guns, he will keep labour out so what's not to like about him? He's been seen as MAGA for the UK in those circles and it's not like there's a better choice for traditionally conservative areas. Are they going to vote a paki PM in? No. A Nigerian boat baby? No. A cheeky Englishman who pushed through Brexit and likes a pint? Perfect.

 

[Rival]

He shouldn't go after the guns

I believe he said the ban on handguns was ludicrous some years ago, I'd be pretty happy if he rolled that back.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

Wtf happened to the Tories though?

Gee boss IDK, might be the retarded gap tooth nigress currently nigging wildly in charge, just after the tories only just had a paki that everyone fucking loathed, or the woman that tried to go against the internal decision that had been made to put a paki in No. 10 the paki stabbed in the back to claim power, or the fucking blonde haired clown who was doing an In Praise of Folly LARP, or the actual fucking robot who had no children and thus no real care for the future.

The fucking tories haven't had a singular leader that even remotely looked the part since fucking Call me Dave, nevermind act the part.

Credit to the tories for managing to get Labor to take almost all of the heat for their last decade and a half of being retarded, it actually would've worked flawlessly if people didn't realize that they could actually just vote for a new party.

 

[Le b0wski]

I'm on the side of nothing ever happens, because labour are a bunch of cockroaches. I still don't think we're getting an election before 2029.

The tories doing musical chairs getting multiple PMs out of a single election has kinda sealed the deal for every party who win to cling on desperately for as long as possible. Expect just like the "tory leadership contest" the "Labour leadership contest" to have huge media coverage as tho it's an election you aren't invited to vote in.

Even the idea of calling or not calling an election is dumb, just set a date so it's every 4 years. I can tell when the 2026, 2030 and 2034 world cup dates are going to be but not even know what year an election will be held in.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

The fact that both Labour and Tories are very far behind in the polls guarantees that all of their MPs (520 out of 650, by the way) won't vote to put themselves out of a job.

Yet another beautiful part about democracy. You know that thing where we vote for what happens to us. Aside from when for whatever reason both of the main parties refuse to let us vote. Almost like what would happen if we didn't get to vote at all and instead had one single high ruler that made all the decisions or something. If any of the polls show that the ruling party is significantly down in approval then there should be no choice. Especially if it's as dramatic as the entire country votes reform with hardly any exception. You have fucked up and therefore we should get to vote if you stay in power. The fact that the person in power can simply refuse to hold a vote when it is obviously the desire of the people is fucking retarded.

I'm on the side of nothing ever happens, because labour are a bunch of cockroaches. I still don't think we're getting an election before 2029.

I'm on the side of 'not giving people a peaceful and legal out for their anger results in a nothing legal ever happens'.

Going to go into a bit more detail about this because it's a statistic that should frighten Starmer as he is ready to start party conference tomorrow:

Less popular than big lass maggie. Fucking hell. Want to take bets on which old folkie song gets reworded to be anti keir?

Countries gone to shit so bad we can't even have our bingo anymore, fucking inflation man. No one wants a bing. £5 for tea £2 for a freddo and I still can't get a bingo with the o smh. I think I just said I cum to gilfs maybe?

Wtf happened to the Tories though?

They passed the osa and started the migrant hotels as they watched on in glee as illegal immigration skyrocketed. It became incredibly clear that they do not care and are not in any way conservative. Someone came along that at least pretends to care and is saying things that conservatives want. They showed that they do not want our vote, now they are not getting it. They are learning that lesson on cause and effect that you learn at about 5 years old. Just that they're closer to 500 years old.

I believe he said the ban on handguns was ludicrous some years ago, I'd be pretty happy if he rolled that back.

In this social climate? If they do remove the ban then they will do so with the express purpose of creating a mass shooting used to reban them harder than they already are.

 

[Crunkle]

Yet another beautiful part about democracy. You know that thing where we vote for what happens to us. Aside from when for whatever reason both of the main parties refuse to let us vote

Apply this to 2029 if Reform wins and then the lefties/Muslims are in the same shoes we currently are.

One of the major things preventing me from being very enthusiastic about getting rid of FPTP is how I see European democracies. 30+ parties to vote for offers choice but also leads to situations where the country isn't being governed because 6 months - multiple years of negotiations take place between the top four or so largest parties. The Netherlands recently took about 8 months of negotiations. Belgium is even longer.

FPTP offers a sort of stability but that's starting to crumble a bit now. We get a shit sandwich but at least we know (typically - not very much anymore) that we'll have the same shit sandwich for 3 - 5 years.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Apply this to 2029 if Reform wins and then the lefties/Muslims are in the same shoes we currently are.

I would for the left. If actual English people are so completely dissatisfied with reform then they should have to go through some sort of vote, be that a full on GE or just a 'should we have a GE' vote.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

why don't we have a set date for elections?

popularity triggering one wouldn't work. It would be constantly sabotaged

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

'should we have a GE' vote.

But what about the 'should we have a 'should we have a GE' vote.' vote?
Clearly we need more layers of bureaucracy before we can determine whether the population wants to vote about whether they want to vote about voting about something.

 

[Crunkle]

be that a full on GE or just a 'should we have a GE' vote.

Just remember back to the 5 years of retards calling for a "People's Vote". We don't do referendums here, usually, it's a very rare thing. The Swiss are out voting in them every bloody week, which just creates a system where only the hyper-politically active will go out and vote.

 

[chilli burn]

https://paulmasonnews.medium.com/the-biggest-far-right-march-in-british-history-31db9415a3b4

I know it's old news but this article from some london leftist is hilarious. He literally states that the majority/vast majority of those at the UTK march were 'white supremists'. Like nigger have you ever spoken to a tommytard?. The majority seem to like ethnics more than the fucking lefties

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

Non brit here, can anyone explain to me brexit and why so many goddamn people hate Boris Johnson? I'm confused

Brexit means Brexit.
Boris Johnson is clown man who pretends to be retarded to be endearing but is actually a sinister agent who invited infinity browns into the country and just acted like a cartoon character the entire time.

 

[Le b0wski]

why don't we have a set date for elections?

It was from 2011 but then in 2022 they repealed the law as it just made too much sense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed-term_Parliaments_Act_2011

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2022/11/contents

 

[femboy fart huffer]

which just creates a system where only the hyper-politically active will go out and vote.

Good. How many people vote just because they think that if they don't go and vote labour right now then the tories will enact ttd or shit like that? I personally know a decent number of people who just go to every election and vote for the one they always do because that's just what they always do. I think those sorts of people should just not bother at all, it's less participating in democracy and more like a chore. People should only vote if they actually give a shit and have even the vaguest idea what they're talking about. Exact reason why I have never voted. I look at shit like australia and just assume it must be like divinating from static. Labour are trying to mass import tonnes of fucking foreigners that will just mindlessly tick the labour box when the next election happens, I don't think having less people vote is exactly a bad thing. Choosing who leads the entire country isn't exactly something you should just decide on a whim, it should be something you're passionate about. And if there's less people on average voting then it leaves more room to show just how popular certain parties are.