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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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UselessRubberKeyboard said:
Guaranteed they’ll make any benefits for anyone only claimable through their magical phone app. Will it monitor where you go? What you spend? They’re allowed to look at your bank account already. Will benefits only be allowed to be spent at a pre-selected list of businesses, and on pre-selected items? We going back to rationing now?

Who’s monitoring this for fairness? Where’s the transparency? And what about people who don’t want to use it? Fuck off, no disability or pension for you?

How can it stop ‘illegal migrants’ from working when the minute they get here they’re legal ‘asylum seekers’?

Just lies to try to undercut Farage, while getting total surveillance of everyone. Fook this for a lark.
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We all know they will give the illegals the ID card.

They want this so they can track you better and have all your details in an easier to reference place. They've tried to make it so you need a passport to do anything and many people just don't get them. This is another way to do that but more forced.

I would rant about it but what's the point? We know how they work and we know the public won't fight back. An ID scheme isn't even a bad idea for stuff like voting and it would be a popular thing if our politicians weren't evil. A national ID card you can present when voting would be a good thing to stop fraud but that's not how this will work. It's more police state shite.
Sped Kaczynski23 said:
welp i just got another visit from the stasi. Essentially I'm on my last warning before they send me to prison for wrongthink, Alas i blast the sash and carry on. Anyone else have this shit happen? or do the rothschilds just really not like me for some reason.
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What are you doing to get visits? Are you posting all over social media or something?
 
Kofi Drinka said:
An ID scheme isn't even a bad idea for stuff like voting and it would be a popular thing if our politicians weren't evil. A national ID card you can present when voting would be a good thing to stop fraud but that's not how this will work. It's more police state shite.
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The way we have it at the moment is almost perfect.

Including voting in any kind of digitisation is the biggest threat to a functioning democracy.
 
But Kier, you said this was mandatory? Where do I claim my OStarmer Phone from when this goes live? When I click on the link in the text on my old Nokia 3210 it does nothing.

Sign up online? Can I access that from my VTech Play Smart Laptop? Is that under "Letters and Words" or "Numbers and Shapes"? Do I need a government mandated PC/laptop? I don't want one of those shit builds. I want something I can play Warzone on.

If (still a big if at this point, even with the 100 hours in MS Paint mockups and media histrionics) this ever goes live and is made mandatory, it'll be going straight onto a burner phone, hooked up to my pi-hole and GPS spoofed. If I can spoof Pokemon Go for the eldest without getting her account banned, it'll sure as shit work on some Indian-coded government slop.
 
Diana Moon Glampers said:
Bri'ish police having a normal one.
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The value of reddit is directly related to if the story present conforms with what the reader wants to believe. The general userbase will tell "faggots" to "go back to reddit, faggot", unless what they bring is in line with the groups overall desires.

Social Identity Theory in action.
 
Rival said:
Will curb the prospect of work for illegal migrants,
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I feel like even this misses the point of the current Reform support. People dont just not want them working here, they don't want them here at all. If they aren't able to work because of the ID, they will still be here. Is he fucking stupid? (yes)
Didn't get a screenshot but the top two headlines on my phone today were 'Keir Starmer introduces mandatory Digital ID' and beneath that 'Data hack on 8000 children, names, addresses, and photos stolen', divine comedy.
 
the rat said:
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It's kind of staggering to see just how fast this is going.
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Only 90k more signatures and the government will open up Office and change "Online safety bill" to "Mandatory IDs" and post the same response online again. We are so showing it to these bureaucrats bros! They will have to submit to our wishes if we sign more petitions they always ignore!
 
the rat said:
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It's kind of staggering to see just how fast this is going.
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It'll be at a million before tea time.

They'll always reply with the boilerplate responses but the media will refuse to let it go. Labour MPs will be looking at that and their constituency emails to gauge whether they sink with Starmer or sink with his replacement in cabinet at the next election.
 
Kofi Drinka said:
Only 90k more signatures and the government will open up Office and change "Online safety bill" to "Mandatory IDs" and post the same response online again. We are so showing it to these bureaucrats bros! They will have to submit to our wishes if we sign more petitions they always ignore!
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I know it's pointless, but you know what? I just kinda like signing things.
 
Automaton Type 2B said:
Asking British kiwi's: What are the chances of a military coup?
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The Armed Forces still report to His Majesty first and foremost, so, no, zero, none. They are part-funded by the rest of the Military Aristocracy, too, so doubly no, nope.

In theory things can get so very fucked up that the King steps in and dissolves Parliament, backed up by the threat of deploying the military to do so, but let's all calm the fuck down, we're not nearly anywhere near that.

Come on Antarctic Treaty, hurry up and run out goddam it...
 
Diana Moon Glampers said:
Bri'ish police having a normal one.

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The solution is simple: don't go. They only invite you in for an "interview" if they're fishing for a reason to arrest you, so just don't give them one. It's entirely voluntary.

Kofi Drinka said:
I'm not sure I trust a Redditor's word in this matter.
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I'm certain this story isn't real, but things like this do happen. The police rely on ignorance about their law (either yours, or their own) to game their arrest quotas. They make you believe that you're required to turn up for an interview, when that's just them getting you into a struggle session until they can catch you admitting something on tape. Nobody should ever trust the police about anything, ever.
 
Kofi Drinka said:
Only 90k more signatures and the government will open up Office and change "Online safety bill" to "Mandatory IDs" and post the same response online again. We are so showing it to these bureaucrats bros! They will have to submit to our wishes if we sign more petitions they always ignore!
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By all means throw your rainbows at me, but I do believe that even if petitions don't lead directly to consequences, there can be powerful indirect consequences.

I believe that the Speaker will be more minded to grant time for a debate on the issue because of this petition. I believe like @Crunkle that it will help focus the minds of MPs who aren't passionately in favour. I believe that it makes some sort of legal action more likely via an organised campaign which may then also entail consequences for the government - they may be forced into legislating properly. And I believe it is encouraging to know that there are at least a million other people who are exercised enough by this prospect to sign a petition against it.

None of this is guaranteed, and I will not pretend it is, but it is worth the price of a signature.
 
They're altering the language of reporting on the ID shit now. Starmer says they're planning to bring ID cards in before the end of this parliament. They're going to ruin their consultations and focus groups, then write up a bill. No statutory instruments. They way the story was initially being reported sounded like they were just going to magic them into existence from No 10, which would have been just the sort of robotic arrogance I'd expect from the tooltaker.

Given the sheer uproar this announcement has caused, even with all the demoralisation campaigns and "it's inevitable" sperging on the socials, I don't see this progressing far past the white paper stage.
 
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