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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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What do JD or St Ron think of the uk?
Starmer might want to do this, but the Blarites (ironically) will make this an impossibility.

Even he cannot control fate and stop all of Dick (Tony) Dastardly's schemes.

All Trump would have to do, if he thought Starmer was opposing him, is sideline him and go all in with Putin, Modi and even Erdogan and Netanyahu.

That would be an International Relations disaster even bigger than David Lammy.

Farage is already acting like he is our new PM, and hopefully he will follow Trump in defunding UK Aid IF it too stops the migrants and 'Fact finding tours of Bolivian child brothels.'
 
Much as I hate the bloke, no.

I understand why many think that, but doing this act would only lead to Labour being elected back in 'out of sympathy' and would be the one thing the woke idiots would use freely:

'You can't vote for the far right, they'll kill you - they're murderers!'

Starmer's punishment needs to be removal of all his wealth, possessions etc. and these going to the Exchequer.
You have the public the wrong way round mate. If Starmer got shot everyone would cheer and say good, fuck off. Sympathy for labour doesn't exist. It would be the polar opposite of the Kirk situation. I hate to use pop culture references but Starmer is literally Sauron in most people's eyes. He is evil, petty and spiteful with no redeeming features or quality. He's made himself a "strong man" for the left and that's made him so unpopular if he was assassinated we'd be having a new bonfire night to celebrate. There would be no labour pity votes, it would be full steam ahead with reform. Pity won't counter act how much people hate the uniparty.

Trump doesn't lay into Starmer too hard because it would back fire. It's like bickering with your siblings, there's a line an outsider cannot cross before you rally around them. Trump going full guns blazing would set some people's backs up because he is an foreigner even if he is a popular one. If he went full attack on Starmer the public might turn on him for being too bossy as an outsider. And Starmer is the type of spiteful little gob shite who would then try to fuck the US and the UK in trade deals. Not even just fuck the US, but make a really bad deal for both sides and lock it in long term where it would be hard to remove it.
 
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Reform are going to get the same treatment all the euro right wing parties get. There will be a grand coalition of Labour, Lib Dems, Greens, SNP, Jezbollah, anything to ensure the status quo remains. Doesn't matter if it fucks the economy and paralyses government since nobody will manage to agree on anything, so long as those horrible bigots are kept out.
 
Trump treats Starmer like someone with special needs, and I find it infinitely funny. He does not need to humiliate him as much as other leaders because he does that to himself on the daily.

I have been critical of Nigel a lot, but seeing these proposals is great; this is what we want to see. He needs them on the manifesto because the Lords cannot challenge them, as it is on their ticket. Targeting the term as a Boriswave is not only smart but freezes out any Boris challenge.

The more I think about it, the more I believe the Palestine announcement was intended as red meat to distract the far left and centre of the party, amidst the book release and the wait for the conference. They clearly have no press package as Lammy stumbled his way through Trevor Philips. Philipsson releases a letter to Kemi saying to kick out Truss, as she mentioned Tommy and "destroyed the economy." Starmer is placing blame on Allan in staff about Mandelson since he needs the ginger mong around.

This is a government paralyzed, and a paralyzed government has no strength to rule.
 
A big problem with saying "oh but we'll let some euros in" is that the euro countries, much like us, have debauched their citizenship so poorly that you end up still importing absolute savages but they have a token EU passport.

A huge chunk of the khat-chewing, lightbulb-headed Somali creatures inflicted on us came over on Dutch passports, but you don't need to get the skull-calipers out to know that they aren't actual cloggies.

We have to go explicitly ethnic in the rules, or we'll just end up with the same situation with a coat of EU varnish on the mirpuri cousin-fuckers, Welsh choir boys, Albanian "Turkish" barbers etc.
 
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Reform are going to get the same treatment all the euro right wing parties get. There will be a grand coalition of Labour, Lib Dems, Greens, SNP, Jezbollah, anything to ensure the status quo remains. Doesn't matter if it fucks the economy and paralyses government since nobody will manage to agree on anything, so long as those horrible bigots are kept out.
It would be very amusing if labour did a 180 once again about doing deals with the SNP after all that talk and rules about doing anything with nationalist/separatist parties to not break up the UK. And doing anything with the greens may upset their more "moderate" benchers/members too.

But I think likely Labour will bite it way too hard for any coalition or minority government to form if the polling trends keep going as they are.
 
big problem with saying "oh but we'll let some euros in" is that the euro countries, much like us, have debauched their citizenship so poorly that you end up still importing absolute savages but they have a token EU passport.
Which is why I laid out my criteria at the start of it all:

We need a blanket ban on new africans and every kind of asian, anyone muslim, and anyone from France. Anyone who yodels the shahada needs to be gone immediately.
I want wheover gets in to focus on expelling the legitimate threats to the British isles, which is africans, muslims, and everyone east of Gallipoli.
I was explicit about basing it on heritage rather than passports, which covers all the bases quite nicely, I think. Can't passport-bro your way around explicit restrictions on ethnicity rather than nationality. I know we'll likely not get it any time soon, though I do get the feeling a lot of the EU-african migrants didn't apply for settled status anyway.
 
I was explicit about basing it on heritage rather than passports, which covers all the bases quite nicely, I think. Can't passport-bro your way around explicit restrictions on ethnicity rather than nationality. I know we'll likely not get it any time soon, though I do get the feeling a lot of the EU-african migrants didn't apply for settled status anyway.
You should see how sportsball players fiddle their nationalities.
 
What do JD or St Ron think of the uk?
I don't have anything specific about Vance and the UK but quite early into his tenure as Senator, he took it upon himself to write to the Irish ambassador about the proposed hate speech laws in Ireland. And it was a doozy of a letter where he outright stated that he loved Ireland but that the friendship between Ireland and the US would be endangered if Ireland went down the hate speech route.

It was one of my favourite things about Trump getting elected because I keep imagining the reaction in the Irish embassy when they get this bold letter from what you know they saw as a nobody hick senator from bum-fuck Ohio. They must have felt fucking sick when only a short time later he was the Vice President.
 
Andy please, I'm already gonna vote reform, you don't have to try and convince me any harder.
He should be deported to the Mariana Trench for those earrings.

News roundup.

Lib Dems continue to tell women they would prefer to have men with a fetish over them.
A bid to remove trans women from Liberal Democrat diversity quotas has been blocked by party members at their annual conference.
Dr Zoe Hollowood, a member of campaign group Liberal Democrat Voice for Women, wanted a debate - and then a binding vote - on updating party policy in light of the Supreme Court ruling that a woman should be defined by biological sex.
But Lucas North, treasurer of LGBT+ Liberal Democrats, argued that the debate was a "sham" and urged conference-goers to "reject the idea that trans identities are up for debate".
His call was supported by two-to-one in a vote in the Bournemouth conference centre hall.
The Liberal Democrat MPs in the hall all left as the issue was raised, so did not vote in the ballot, which a party spokeswoman said was because they had to attend their daily morning meeting.
Dr Hollowood's motion set out how women are underrepresented in positions across the Liberal Democrats as an organisation and positive action through diversity quotas remained necessary.
She argued trans women should not be included in diversity quotas for women as they are biological men and self-identification is not recognised by the law.
The motion stated: "Returning males into vacancies expressly reserved for females would be unlawful."
However, Mr North successfully saw the motion ditched after a plea for the membership "not to platform transphobic views".
"The motion in front of us is a sham," they said.
"It misrepresents the legal position, it runs contrary to our values, it seeks to put us at odds with our longstanding support for LGBT+ people."
Although Mr North said members "could simply vote this down", they suggested ditching the motion entirely was more appropriate so conference was not "used to legitimise bigotry in the name of a small and extremist faction".
Opposing Mr North's move to ditch her debate, Dr Hollowood urged members to "please vote against this suppression" and called on those who disagreed to argue their case.
"We must stop telling people it's unsafe to hear views they disagree with - that excuse opens the door to censorship, violence and tyranny".
Claiming that free speech was "under pressure" in the UK, Dr Hollowood suggested that was linked to the recent arrest of comedy writer and outspoken critic of the trans rights movement, Graham Linehan.
There were shouts and groans from the conference audience as Dr Hollowood said Mr Linehan had been arrested "over Tweets", rather than for inciting violence, and had to be told to "settle down" by the conference chair.
There was already a separate quota for trans identities, Dr Hollowood pointed out, as she urged members to "show we care about the law, we care about equalities, we care about women's rights, and we care about free speech".
Asked later about why the motion had been removed from the agenda, the party's home affairs spokeswoman Lisa Smart told reporters: "Party members will do what party members will do."
Pushed further, she added: "You will have to ask the people who put down the procedural motion."
Libs Dems pretend to care about illegal migration while also saying they'll just grant them a blanket right to work
The Liberal Democrat leader says his party would give asylum seekers permission to work while they wait for their claims to be processed.
In an interview with BBC South East, Sir Ed Davey said they "could be contributing to their local economy", rather than costing the taxpayers money.
Sir Ed was speaking ahead of the Liberal Democrat conference which begins in Bournemouth on Saturday.
He also said the government should move asylum seekers out of hotels.
"The way you do that is by processing applications much more quickly than the government have done, and the Conservatives who created the mess in the first place managed to do," Sir Ed said.
"Then people who've got no right to be here can be deported, and people who have a right to be here can go leave the hotel and go and work and get on with their lives."

In 2002 the previous Labour government withdrew permission for asylum seekers to work, saying it was necessary to distinguish asylum from economic migration.
In May, MPs rejected a Lib Dem amendment to the government's immigration bill, which would have allowed asylum seekers to apply for work after waiting three months for their application to be processed.
Sir Ed also advocated providing help to refugees abroad, to remove the need to come to the UK.
He said: "If we used our aid budget we could help people in refugee camps near their homes, near their countries that they've fled from, so they could stay in their regions.
"We need to stop illegal immigration. It's illegal. And if we did that, we could actually meet our traditional British approach, which was to be a sanctuary from people who are escaping torture."
Zarah's sobered up from the weekend
Former Labour MP Zarah Sultana has said she is "determined to reconcile and move forward" after divisions emerged over the formation of a new left-wing political party with Jeremy Corbyn.

The Coventry South MP also said she will no longer be pursuing legal action against Corbyn and others behind the party, known for now as Your Party.

It comes after Sultana said on Friday that she had instructed defamation lawyers over what she said were "baseless attacks" on her character.

Corbyn has been approached for comment. Like Sultana, he is understood to want the party's inaugural conference still to go ahead as planned in November.
In a statement posted on X,, external Sultana said it was a "regrettable situation" and she understood "people are feeling demoralised" but that she was confident the party's conference would go ahead.

"I am engaged in ongoing discussions with Jeremy, for whom, like all socialists of my generation, I have nothing but respect," she said.

"We will find a way to continue in a unified way centring the grassroots of our movement."

Efforts to try and mediate between the pair began on Friday.

It comes days after Sultana accused former Labour leader Corbyn of overseeing a "sexist boys' club" and alleged she had been "sidelined" by other members of the new party.

The split emerged after an email was sent to supporters inviting them to sign up for a £5 monthly or £55 annual membership. Sultana promoted the sign-up on social media, but Corbyn later said the emails were "unauthorised" and should be ignored.

On Friday, Sultana said she had instructed defamation lawyers after being "the subject of a number of false and defamatory statements" following the launch of the membership system which she said more than 20,000 people had signed up to.

"Unfortunately I have been subjected to what can only be described as a sexist boys' club: I have been treated appallingly and excluded completely," she added.

Islington North MP Corbyn's statement dismissing the email and saying any direct debits should be "immediately cancelled" was signed by Ayoub Khan, Adnan Hussain, Iqbal Mohamed and Shockat Adam - four independent MPs involved in founding the party - with Sultana's name missing from the list.

The new party has been beset by issues since it was announced in July.

Corbyn allies have said they are "disappointed" at the deep divisions that have emerged over the party's formation.

Some said they believe Sultana was attempting to mount a leadership bid by signing people up. Corbyn has not agreed to co-leadership, although he has not ruled it out.

Sultana insisted the launch of the membership portal was "in line with the road map sent out to members", with funds to be held by a company set up by the party to safeguard money until its conference in November.

Your Party group sent the case to the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO), the data protection law watchdog, over suspected misuse of supporters' details.

The pair previously disagreed over the name of the party, with Sultana maintaining it would not be called Your Party and hinting she favoured The Left Party, while Corbyn indicated the name could stay.

The final decision is to be put to a vote by supporters.
 
You have the public the wrong way round mate. If Starmer got shot everyone would cheer and say good, fuck off. Sympathy for labour doesn't exist. It would be the polar opposite of the Kirk situation. I hate to use pop culture references but Starmer is literally Sauron in most people's eyes. He is evil, petty and spiteful with no redeeming features or quality. He's made himself a "strong man" for the left and that's made him so unpopular if he was assassinated we'd be having a new bonfire night to celebrate. There would be no labour pity votes, it would be full steam ahead with reform. Pity won't counter act how much people hate the uniparty.

Trump doesn't lay into Starmer too hard because it would back fire. It's like bickering with your siblings, there's a line an outsider cannot cross before you rally around them. Trump going full guns blazing would set some people's backs up because he is an foreigner even if he is a popular one. If he went full attack on Starmer the public might turn on him for being too bossy as an outsider. And Starmer is the type of spiteful little gob shite who would then try to fuck the US and the UK in trade deals. Not even just fuck the US, but make a really bad deal for both sides and lock it in long term where it would be hard to remove it.
True, most of us would be down the pub on the day Starmer becomes an ex-human being (not that he ever was much of one in the first place), but you do have those cretins who would manipulate others into thinking that the Far Right are evil because 'Starmer was killed by Right Wing Mega Hitler.'

Also, the Left are very good at 'ah-butisms' and certain types will always fall for it again.

I have every confidence that Reform UK would win, but I'm also wise to the way the media would spin things and brainwash the brainwashable. Certain people would believe that the sky was green, if you press-ganged or bribed them enough.

Unlike us good intellectual folk here, there are actual retards out there who vote the way that Great Grandpa used to and never question why they vote for the party in question.

IMO it's best that Starmer is made to suffer losing everything - that his empire of hatred crumbles as Nigel and Reform UK press forward throughout the next few decades (hopefully) and start to reverse the problems which we have faced.

Trump is disappointed with Starmer, and I believe also out of patience with him.
 
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IMO it's best that Starmer is made to suffer losing everything - that his empire of hatred crumbles as Nigel and Reform UK press forward throughout the next few decades (hopefully) and start to reverse the problems which we have faced.
Well that's kind of an issue for us, Starmer and Labour know they are unpopular and everyone has it out for them. So rather then giving in and letting things transition over to Reform like everyone expects to happen, their going full steam-a-head with Blairs grand plan and are trying to cram it all in before they are either voted or forcefully made to leave.

If they can cram in as much as possible and imbed it into the system then they hope the bureaucracy will prevent Nigel and Reform from ever removing it and that's clearly what they are trying to do with immigration and the online stuff.
 
Hard to have a scandal if you're only in power for two days.
The Liberal Democrats say children using social media apps should be shown cigarette-style health warnings to help protect their mental health.
When have those warnings ever stopped anyone? They do nothing and we all know this. You are all faggots who want to appear helpful instead of actually being helpful.
How can any political party have a 'moral duty'? It implies that one side is immoral which fucking undermines the entire point of a democracy. There is no such thing as a correct or incorrect political party, the only time a political party is incorrect is if it fails to serve the people, so the tories and labour. Obviously I know why they're trying to call reform immoral but for politicians they sure are getting fucking lazy with their political speak.
 
Hard to have a scandal if you're only in power for two days.

When have those warnings ever stopped anyone? They do nothing and we all know this. You are all faggots who want to appear helpful instead of actually being helpful.

How can any political party have a 'moral duty'? It implies that one side is immoral which fucking undermines the entire point of a democracy. There is no such thing as a correct or incorrect political party, the only time a political party is incorrect is if it fails to serve the people, so the tories and labour. Obviously I know why they're trying to call reform immoral but for politicians they sure are getting fucking lazy with their political speak.
Ed Davey thinks he's Captain Planet or something... more like Captain Plankton!

Or Batfink...

'Nigel's words cannot hurt me, my faux-morality and pomposity is like a shield of steel..'

When Lord Geoffrey Howe attacked, Dennis Healey said that it was like being savaged by a dead sheep...

When Davey attacks, it's like being attacked by a cloud.
 
True, most of us would be down the pub on the day Starmer becomes an ex-human being (not that he ever was much of one in the first place)
If, purely hypothetically, Starmer was shot and bleeding out with just minutes to live, do you think he'd even realize he was dying?
 
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