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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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After over 25 years of lobbying, Tony Blair has finally gotten his own way re: ID cards (L / A).

Keir Starmer is going to implement compulsory "digital ID" for all citizens to address illegal migration.

Here's a mockup that Labour Together produced:

View attachment 7864247

Got a feeling dumbphone sales are about to skyrocket.

The cost to set this system up is estimated to be between £140m - £400m to set up, which we all know means it'll be at least double that.
If they want to have a dystopia police state, why do the names have to sound like some kind of schoolmarm lesson plan? Surprised they didn't go with "ID Registry Hub" or something equally stupid.
 
More bad news coming for Labour - NHS Staff, Lecturers, Civil Servants and maybe even ASLEF workers are set to strike this month and next.

France have started a 'bring down the Government' movement to remove Napoleon Fullofshite (Macron) and with Germany veering towards the Right despite the (cough) not suspicious deaths of AFL members the crux will come in the week beginning Monday 13th October.

If Starmer's not already potted by then, he will have had to performed miracles not even witnessed by those around at the time of Christ and won the whole of the party over.

Don't think that Starmer's in charge either - it's McSweeney v Blair and Starmer is listening to the former more than the latter. The two camps are at war with each other and dishing the dirt out (such as 'Birthdaygate').

I still remain optimistic, it's just a case of time now.
 
After over 25 years of lobbying, Tony Blair has finally gotten his own way re: ID cards (L / A).

Keir Starmer is going to implement compulsory "digital ID" for all citizens to address illegal migration.

Here's a mockup that Labour Together produced:

View attachment 7864247

Got a feeling dumbphone sales are about to skyrocket.

The cost to set this system up is estimated to be between £140m - £400m to set up, which we all know means it'll be at least double that.
>phones
Will never see the light of day lmao.
My only gripe with this article is that it's sensationalist. In the first line it says:
Keir Starmer is weighing up bringing in new digital ID cards for everyone in the UK in a bid to crack down on small boat crossings.
My devil's advocate here because of how you might be able to interpret the wording is that it'll be so big a nothing burger that it won't be the dystopian ideal Blair was hoping for, or what we feared most.

Would they be mandatory?​

The Government has yet to put forward any solid proposals.
But in its report submitted to No10 in the summer, Labour Together said they should be mandatory, universal and free of charge.
I think it might be "mandatory" in the same way National Insurance numbers are, or the right have a passport. Everyone will have a name, D.O.B and NI associated with some ID that they may or may not ever access. The main purpose I could see for it is that it could be used in lieu of a passport or something as a valid proof of identity. I imagine though it being extremely easy to steal your personal details were you to have it on your phone in the same way people can steal the details of digital bank/credit cards, so I'd shy away from it even if I thought it was convenient.

There's too many people - some as young as 55 even - who still can't use smartphones properly so I doubt it'll be forced on you (leaving out the question of requiring people to buy a smartphone regardless). It's likely that you'll be able to register for one, input your details, take a picture of your face, and now you've got a valid form of photo ID on your phone.

How would Starmer use this to crack down on small boat crossings? It won't.
The article actually alludes on this:
It emerged the Home Office looking into using industrial estates to house thousands of people while their claims are processed. No10 confirmed that digital ID cards - which would be displayed on smartphones - were discussed.
"The point here is looking at what works, ensuring that we're doing what we can to address some of the drivers of illegal migration, tackle those pull factors, ensure that we're doing everything we can to crack down on illegal working."
I think it's a technical truth in the same way the Rwanda scheme was a way to "solve immigration".
It would serve as a means to move the imports along quicker in the process.

"Asylum seekers" can get a National Insurance number if they have an outstanding claim (12 months or more), have been granted refugee status, or some other leave to remain. This may serve as a means to give them an official form of ID and a NI number all from the convenience of their phone, either doing so themselves or with the help of the countless lawyer-groups who'll help do it for them. They get their ID, their status is recognised, and the only issue the GOV seems to care about regarding the illegals - working fraudulently for Uber/Deliveroo - will no longer be a problem.

This wouldn't actually reduce their numbers mind, but the government will be allowed to say they closed the hotels if this puts enough of them in free social housing. :)
 
U.K Citizens are getting raped hardcore by their government. I actually feel bad for them.

Anyone who is in the U.K please get out of there as quick as you can. Its all gone to shit ever since the queen died.
 
Really fucking Oracle, jesus fucking christ!

I see Starmer picked the Cesear route by surrounding himself with his besties. He might want to read how that ended, but history is not his strong suit.

The conference is going to be like a tranny in a religious school.
 
U.K Citizens are getting raped hardcore by their government. I actually feel bad for them.

Anyone who is in the U.K please get out of there as quick as you can. Its all gone to shit ever since the queen died.
As soon as I saw @WelperHelper99 post I knew there'd be some sort of response.
@Crunkle Posted an article, and said: "is going to"
Whereas the article itself says: "is weighing up"

Nothing has been implemented yet, and whilst it might be optimistic of me to think there won't be some sweeping dystopian policy enacted, I think we're just the victims of sensationalist headlines. Compare the headlines from The Telegraph (could mean) and The Standard (considering).
The Telegraph: Labour’s ‘migrant crackdown’ could mean ID cards for entire population
All British citizens could be issued with digital ID cards under plans being considered by Sir Keir Starmer to tackle illegal immigration.

The Prime Minister’s official spokesman said that ID cards could combat illegal migrants working in the black economy, amid a public backlash over the surge in Channel migrants and asylum hotels, as well as benefit fraud.

The last Labour government tried to introduce ID cards, with the first issued in 2009, but the scheme was scrapped by the incoming Conservative-led coalition on the basis that it was an “erosion of civil liberties”.

Asked about the possibility of a compulsory card, Sir Keir’s spokesman said: “We’re willing to look at what works when it comes to tackling illegal migration.”

Official sources confirmed that the Cabinet on Tuesday discussed cracking down on “pull factors” and illegal working, “including exploring options around digital ID”.
Robert Jenrick, the shadow justice secretary, indicated the Tories would oppose national ID cards, claiming they would not “stop the boats”.

“Most employers who are employing individuals illegally are doing so knowingly. They are doing so dishonestly,” he said.

“Merely asking those employers to check ID cards rather than the current checks that they are already obliged to do is not going to make a blind bit of difference.”

Jasleen Chaggar, legal officer at Big Brother Watch, said: “Foreign workers are already required to prove their right to work when coming to the UK. Digital ID won’t stop the boats or tackle illegal migration. Instead, it would force the rest of us to surrender our privacy and security to access basic services and drive unauthorised migrants further into the shadows towards unsafe housing and off-the-books work.”

Britain is one of the few countries in Europe without a national ID card system, which critics claim has allowed a black market in jobs to flourish, making the UK attractive to illegal migrants. However, it has been opposed by civil liberties groups for infringing on people’s privacy.

France has long complained that the reason for the surge in small boat crossings is because Britain’s black economy has made it a magnet for asylum seekers. Despite being barred from working in the UK, many find employment, specifically service industry jobs such as takeaway deliveries.

At the weekend, Pat McFadden, the Cabinet office minister, said that requiring people to produce digital ID could close off work to migrants.
Speaking on a visit to Estonia, which has one of the world’s most advanced ID systems, he said: “There are applications of digital ID to the immigration system, to the benefit system, to a number of areas which can show that we are interested in proper validation of people’s identity, that the people who exercise rights are the people who are entitled to rights, and good value for money for the taxpayer.”

In Estonia, every citizen is given a unique number which they use to register births, marriages, divorces and deaths, access their bank accounts, vote, book GP appointments, file their tax return and even collect supermarket loyalty points.

The UK already operates an e-visa system which enables UK authorities to check when a migrant has entered the UK and when they should leave, thereby establishing if they should be removed. Some 4.3 million e-visas have so far been issued.

As recently as seven weeks ago, No 10 explicitly ruled out any plans to introduce compulsory ID cards. However, after a summer dominated by the Government’s handling of the migration crisis, Sir Keir’s spokesman noted that the debate on digital ID had changed and moved on.

“[Pat McFadden] said people’s expectations had increased and it was important for the Government to meet those expectations,” he said.

The idea has long had backing from senior Labour figures.

Sir Tony Blair and Lord Blunkett, the former home secretary who first put forward the idea, have remained strong advocates of compulsory ID cards as a simple, effective way to tackle illegal migration despite their reforms being scrapped.
All British citizens could be issued with digital ID cards under plans being considered by Sir Keir Starmer to tackle illegal immigration.

The Prime Minister’s official spokesman said that ID cards could combat illegal migrants working in the black economy, amid a public backlash over the surge in Channel migrants and asylum hotels, as well as benefit fraud.

The last Labour government tried to introduce ID cards, with the first issued in 2009, but the scheme was scrapped by the incoming Conservative-led coalition on the basis that it was an “erosion of civil liberties”.

Asked about the possibility of a compulsory card, Sir Keir’s spokesman said: “We’re willing to look at what works when it comes to tackling illegal migration.”

Official sources confirmed that the Cabinet on Tuesday discussed cracking down on “pull factors” and illegal working, “including exploring options around digital ID”.

Robert Jenrick, the shadow justice secretary, indicated the Tories would oppose national ID cards, claiming they would not “stop the boats”.

“Most employers who are employing individuals illegally are doing so knowingly. They are doing so dishonestly,” he said.

“Merely asking those employers to check ID cards rather than the current checks that they are already obliged to do is not going to make a blind bit of difference.”

Jasleen Chaggar, legal officer at Big Brother Watch, said: “Foreign workers are already required to prove their right to work when coming to the UK. Digital ID won’t stop the boats or tackle illegal migration. Instead, it would force the rest of us to surrender our privacy and security to access basic services and drive unauthorised migrants further into the shadows towards unsafe housing and off-the-books work.”

Britain is one of the few countries in Europe without a national ID card system, which critics claim has allowed a black market in jobs to flourish, making the UK attractive to illegal migrants. However, it has been opposed by civil liberties groups for infringing on people’s privacy.

France has long complained that the reason for the surge in small boat crossings is because Britain’s black economy has made it a magnet for asylum seekers. Despite being barred from working in the UK, many find employment, specifically service industry jobs such as takeaway deliveries.

At the weekend, Pat McFadden, the Cabinet office minister, said that requiring people to produce digital ID could close off work to migrants.

Speaking on a visit to Estonia, which has one of the world’s most advanced ID systems, he said: “There are applications of digital ID to the immigration system, to the benefit system, to a number of areas which can show that we are interested in proper validation of people’s identity, that the people who exercise rights are the people who are entitled to rights, and good value for money for the taxpayer.”

In Estonia, every citizen is given a unique number which they use to register births, marriages, divorces and deaths, access their bank accounts, vote, book GP appointments, file their tax return and even collect supermarket loyalty points.

The UK already operates an e-visa system which enables UK authorities to check when a migrant has entered the UK and when they should leave, thereby establishing if they should be removed. Some 4.3 million e-visas have so far been issued.

As recently as seven weeks ago, No 10 explicitly ruled out any plans to introduce compulsory ID cards. However, after a summer dominated by the Government’s handling of the migration crisis, Sir Keir’s spokesman noted that the debate on digital ID had changed and moved on.

“[Pat McFadden] said people’s expectations had increased and it was important for the Government to meet those expectations,” he said.

The idea has long had backing from senior Labour figures.

Sir Tony Blair and Lord Blunkett, the former home secretary who first put forward the idea, have remained strong advocates of compulsory ID cards as a simple, effective way to tackle illegal migration despite their reforms being scrapped.

In June, Labour Together, a think tank previously headed by Sir Keir’s chief of staff Morgan McSweeney, backed compulsory digital ID for every adult to crack down on illegal migration and provide the public with a “one-stop shop” for Government services such as passports or benefits without the need for further identity checks.

In its report, Labour Together urged Sir Keir to make digital identity a “top prime ministerial priority” and begin a “fundamental transformation in the way British citizens interact with the government”.

It said its proposed “BritCard” – or digital ID – should be rolled out for right-to-rent and right-to-work checks initially. It estimated it would cost as little as £140m to build, and between £5m and £10m per year to administer.

The app would automatically check a person’s right to work against government records. The system would be able to cross-reference the stored identity against company tax records to identify firms with workers who had not undergone checks.

At present, employers and landlords are expected to verify identity through one of 15 documents, many of which can be easily forged. A typical employer can expect that the Home Office will check their verification processes once every 150 years.

The report cited polling showing that 80 per cent of the public supported the introduction of digital right-to-work credentials. Almost a third thought it would deter people from coming to the UK illegally to work.
The Standard: Starmer considering digital ID and housing migrants at old industrial sites
The Prime Minister is considering introducing new digital ID cards in a bid to crack down on small boats crossings, Downing Street has indicated.
But No 10 stopped short of saying whether it would consider introducing compulsory national identification cards.
As Sir Keir Starmer faces pressure to empty asylum hotels of migrants, the Prime Minister’s official spokesman also said plans to house migrants in “modular buildings” and at old industrial sites are under discussion.
Sir Keir is due to gather ministers to plan action on going “further and faster” on tackling illegal migration on Tuesday afternoon, according to No 10.
The Prime Minister’s official spokesman said Sir Keir reiterated migration was a “central issue” as the Cabinet met on Tuesday, and called for “further and faster” action on it.
The spokesman also said: “He said it was easy to understand the frustration people feel at the level of illegal crossings and the site of asylum hotels in their communities.
“He will be chairing a ministerial meeting later today to consider how we can go further and faster to combat illegal crossings.
“This includes continuing to work with the French authorities, cracking down on pull factors and illegal working, including exploring options around digital ID, accelerating the closure of hotels and looking at better forms of accommodation, and driving further progress returning people with no right to be here.”
No 10 has previously downplayed the introduction of digital ID cards to deter Channel crossings, after prominent public figures including former Labour prime minister Sir Tony Blair made the case for the measure.
Asked whether ministers were considering rolling out a compulsory national ID card, the PM’s spokesman said: “We’re willing to look at what works when it comes to tackling illegal migration, and the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster (Pat McFadden) referenced that over the weekend in terms of applications of digital ID to the immigration system.
“The point here is looking at what works, ensuring that we’re doing what we can to address some of the drivers of illegal migration, tackle those pull factors, ensure that we’re doing everything we can to crack down on illegal working.
“We’ve made significant progress when it comes to illegal working, surged arrests by 50%, but there’s more to do in this space.”
Ministers are also looking at housing migrants “using modular buildings, on industrial sites, ex-military sites” to clear asylum hotels, No 10 indicated.
The hotels have become the focal point of several demonstrations in recent weeks after an asylum seeker housed at the Bell Hotel in Epping, Essex, was charged with sexually assaulting a teenage girl last month.
He has denied the charges.
Home Secretary Yvette Cooper earlier suggested to broadcasters the Government is confident it can speed up efforts to empty the hotels before its self-imposed deadline of the end of the Parliament.
But she appeared at odds with No 10 when she failed to guarantee that returns under the Government’s “one-in, one-out” deal with France would begin in September.
In contrast, the PM’s spokesman was confident returns would start within the month, telling reporters: “We fully expect that to happen.”
On Monday, Ms Cooper announced the existing refugee family reunion route will be suspended this week as a new measure to limit migration.
The Government is also seeking to crack down on international students claiming asylum once their visas come to an end.
The Home Office is launching a new campaign where, for the first time, it will directly contact international students and their families by email or text, warning them they must leave if they have no right to remain.
Nearly 10,000 students and dependants were contacted last week and tens of thousands more are expected to receive the guidance in the coming weeks before their visas expire.
The message also warns an asylum claim that lacks merit will be “swiftly and robustly refused”.
 
After over 25 years of lobbying, Tony Blair has finally gotten his own way re: ID cards (L / A).

Keir Starmer is going to implement compulsory "digital ID" for all citizens to address illegal migration.

Here's a mockup that Labour Together produced:

View attachment 7864247

Got a feeling dumbphone sales are about to skyrocket.

The cost to set this system up is estimated to be between £140m - £400m to set up, which we all know means it'll be at least double that.
Holy shit. You niggers need to fucking claim asylum and leave. Literally getting tagged like cattle.
 
After over 25 years of lobbying, Tony Blair has finally gotten his own way re: ID cards (L / A).

Keir Starmer is going to implement compulsory "digital ID" for all citizens to address illegal migration.

Here's a mockup that Labour Together produced:

View attachment 7864247

Got a feeling dumbphone sales are about to skyrocket.

The cost to set this system up is estimated to be between £140m - £400m to set up, which we all know means it'll be at least double that.
Brits will bemoan America and try to say how much it sucks meanwhile they literally live in City 17.
 
if you aren't labeled right to work and rent, are you legitimately screwed in finding employment and a home to live in? Or is it just for government jobs and housing?
 
As soon as I saw @WelperHelper99 post I knew there'd be some sort of response.
@Crunkle Posted an article, and said: "is going to"
Whereas the article itself says: "is weighing up"

Nothing has been implemented yet, and whilst it might be optimistic of me to think there won't be some sweeping dystopian policy enacted, I think we're just the victims of sensationalist headlines. Compare the headlines from The Telegraph (could mean) and The Standard (considering).
The Telegraph: Labour’s ‘migrant crackdown’ could mean ID cards for entire population
The online safety bill was being weighed up since 2023, they passed it under labor. You elected literal fucking communists that sold jet engine specs to the Soviets. This is happening.
 
The online safety bill was being weighed up since 2023, they passed it under labor. You elected literal fucking communists that sold jet engine specs to the Soviets. This is happening.
Your own court system declared that Google, one of the most powerful companies in the world, was too powerful.
And then literally declined to do anything about it.

Sooooooooooooooooo
Shut
The
Fuck
Up

Your own country is a tyrannical shithole, overrun by nigs and spics.
You're all so buck broken you think the ability to say mean words on the internet equals freedom.
Except we know that's a lie, because if it wasn't then why does Josh have to operate the site the way that he does.
If you're so free why can't Josh find a normal webhost or use payment processors or run the website the same way that normies can?
How is it that some random US kike can prohibit other countries from developing their own payment processors?

90% of the world's problems are caused by you fat faggots, your inability to reign in your Silicon Valley and Hollywood predators, and your forever Middle East wars for Israel.

But yeah you have guns that only increase your chances of getting shot by oogabooga. You armed a bunch of resentful farm equipment.
Great society
10/10
 
After over 25 years of lobbying, Tony Blair has finally gotten his own way re: ID cards (L / A).

Keir Starmer is going to implement compulsory "digital ID" for all citizens to address illegal migration.

Here's a mockup that Labour Together produced:

View attachment 7864247
> Right to rent
What the fuck does that even mean?
How can you be a citizen of the UK and not be allowed to rent?
Do they have state enforced homelessness?
 
The online safety bill was being weighed up since 2023, they passed it under labor. You elected literal fucking communists that sold jet engine specs to the Soviets. This is happening.
It has to be voted on and shit first. I think at this moment in time it's a bit too soon to panic.
To show I'm a good sport about it all though, I'll overlay an American flag in my avatar for an entire month if this comes to pass and is compulsory.

"You elected literal fucking communists that sold jet engine specs to the Soviets."
I know ;(
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