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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Mister Fister said:
You're such a cigarette. Romeo and juilet could be repeated any number of times as a normal human story. It's not about the couple but two lovers from rival factions. It's only because it's written in the archaic version of English that it's hard to read.
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That's why I'm working on a version of Romeo and Juliet where Romeo is a 34 year old Paki asylum seeker and Julliet is a 12 year old council estate girl.
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
I re-watched a few movies yesterday, and Children of Men was one of them. Man, they were almost right about the UK in the mid-2020's. Instead of oppressing the browns, they oppress British citizens. They say Bexhill really looks like that now.
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I find it funny how both Children of Men and V for Vendetta both had a viral disease as the core reason why the UK would descend into a far right hellhole, neither of them considered the possibility that the British high trust system for our fellow men would be what causes the rot to spread from within from outsiders, nope it'd have to be something manufactured or something out of the ordinary that causes us to radically change.
 
BongoMongo said:
The saying "those who can't,teach" didn't come out of nowhere.
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I've known a few teachers who failed in their industry and went on to teach in it because they had the qualifications.
Spud said:
Ah yes, women can't read aloud to bond with their kids as well as men can, fuck me that's a good one.
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Women can read? I've never seen them do anything but doom scroll.
Chunky Salsa said:
I'm not sure how true that is, but it's definitely not a pro-man stance by any stretch of the imagination. I was raised by a single mother and a step-dad since the age of about 10, so I can't really speak to if it's true or not. I always got on well with my mother; but didn't really warm to my dad (stepdad but whatever), until my late teens, when I started taking off with the gym, weightlifting, Rugby and other things. I think it's easier to bond with your mother, or father over different things for sure. Not convinced that story time at bed is one of those though. My mother - tranny hater that she is - read me Harry Potter, Narnia, and an obscure book about a kid who hunted humanoid dragons, as a kid.
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This is one of the reasons it needs to be the father. Most men aren't interested in children until they're old enough to "do stuff". They pretty much ignore babies because they're annoying crying shitting machines and don't do anything in a way men can really interact with. Children have a natural bond with the mother because normal baby care taking if focused around breast feeding and doing stuff like changing them. Which most men just aren't going to do. It's "women's work" because women stomach a nappy full of shit better than men do. Women are weird fuckers who don't get grossed out as easy as men. I've discussed this with my other half many times and we always come to the same conclusion of "men don't care about babies the way women do". Which creates an imbalance between men and women bonding with their children. Breast feeding alone makes a huge difference.

So when children start getting to the age where they can "do stuff" with Dad. It's important that Dad takes a forward role in that. He has to be the one going to the park on weekends (assuming he's working full time). Every night he has to read the bed time story. It creates a structure that's ideal for men to "do stuff" with their kids and form those relationships. It's not that Mother's can't read, it's that men need different social structures and have different needs as a parent and that's one of the best areas to do it.

Boys tend to bond with the mother easily and not understand the father until they're much older. Which is usually after there's been the teenage boy nightmare phase. If they don't have a proper bond with their Dad they can end up becoming rival males in the same house until the son moves out. Son thinks he's big and tough (we all did hitting puberty) and wants more power. Dad obviously knows better but it can cause tension and a bad relationship. Making sure Dad is bonded well with the son can help take the edge off of this and avoid seriously damaged relationships.

I'm talking in big generalities here but I think everyone can understand what I'm saying. Mothers naturally do things that bond with kids from birth, it's essential to their survival. Men bond better by "Doing things" and if you don't have men properly bonding to their kids you end up with a weak father house hold and they are fucking up this country. The daddy issues are off the charts. And they can be helped by making sure the father is taking an active role such as reading bed time stories because it builds the foundation the Father needs to have a good relationship.
Spud said:
I find the way he said it to be extremely funny cause it's a man with Aspergers way of saying it.
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It is. I don't always get my point across as well as I'd like to because I'm a socially stunted mong on the farms. I think the idea gets across though.
 
Tom Nook's Gloryhole said:
I find it funny how both Children of Men and V for Vendetta both had a viral disease as the core reason why the UK would descend into a far right hellhole, neither of them considered the possibility that the British high trust system for our fellow men would be what causes the rot to spread from within from outsiders, nope it'd have to be something manufactured or something out of the ordinary that causes us to radically change.
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They are both products of their time. From basically the 60's until the 2010's, the extreme right was the cultural bogeyman. This was revitalized in the West following the Invasion of Iraq, which had far-reaching cultural consequences for the UK despite being a US boondoggle.

Children of Men is still a really, really good movie with a central message of hope, but remember that it (and V for Vendetta) came out in 2006. That's important. Also, I would argue that a major theme is that humans are rotten without any hope, not due to whatever it is that causes women to be infertile (interestingly, in the original book, it's specifically men who are infertile). Theo (Clive Owens) is basically a victim of circumstance and going with the flow until Kee gives birth, at which point the character kicks into overdrive and does whatever it takes to protect Kee and the baby.
 
Crunkle said:
I'm mildly upset at the melanated hordes today.

First off, always do a Companies House lookup on the directors if you're making a big purchase. I'm still paying off a house project and they are nothing but trouble. Bad product, awful work. Am stuck having to deal with a company full of accented "boss" men to get their shitty work right. Why do they almost always conduct business and customer support through WhatsApp?

Second, the heartwarming kinship you feel with other queuing shoppers when some melanated single mother is trying to split her payment over six different payment methods for the £300 trolley of processed ready meals and frozen dinners for her dozen hellspawn to consume in a few days.

Old lady behind me started whispering about why the melanated woman (who'd decided to dye her dreadlocks blue for some reason) tried paying with all of her credit cards (declined) and then had an envelope full of cash regardless to cover the full amount.
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I recently went to a super market with obvious illegal immigrants, pakis every where and just general modern scum. It's almost as painful as Birmingham train station. Just fucking behead me next time I need a pint of milk and it's the only place open. I'll suffer less.
 
A couple of news items before a bigger serving later (been a real life 'Manic Monday' here...)

Will try to archive within the hour, archive.today is once again playing up!


Rugby player banned after shouting 'get your baps out' at female referee - Casey Johnson said he 'had no real explanation' for why he shouted the 'abhorrent' phrase at the match official:



Reform UK has a councillor in Swansea for the first time:

 
Made In Wales said:
Rugby player banned after shouting 'get your baps out' at female referee - Casey Johnson said he 'had no real explanation' for why he shouted the 'abhorrent' phrase at the match official:
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He wanted a fucking roll! Give this man a cheese and pickle roll and get the ref back in the kitchen.

I don't think men's sports should have female refs. They can't keep up with the men moving as well and if they get hit they're going to get seriously injured. Women can ref women's sports and wear bikinis with stripes on them to help the eye candy. And give better pictures when they pick up the dildos thrown on the pitch
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
Children of Men is still a really, really good movie with a central message of hope
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I agree.
PL + slight spoiler for Children of Men:
I don't often get teary-eyed at shit, but there's two exceptions: Alzheimer-related shit, and whatever you'd call that scene in Children of Men when the two sides stop fighting when they hear the baby crying and let them through. These two things have lead to some absolutely embarrassing bouts of emotion, and sometimes for the dumbest examples of media out there, including the likes of Robot and Frank, Dante's Peak, and Ricky Gervais' After Life, which I was forced to watch with someone.
 
>IMPLYING said:
I agree.
PL + slight spoiler for Children of Men:
I don't often get teary-eyed at shit, but there's two exceptions: Alzheimer-related shit, and whatever you'd call that scene in Children of Men when the two sides stop fighting when they hear the baby crying and let them through. These two things have lead to some absolutely embarrassing bouts of emotion, and sometimes for the dumbest examples of media out there, including the likes of Robot and Frank, Dante's Peak, and Ricky Gervais' After Life, which I was forced to watch with someone.
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Children of Men is terrifically directed and planned. The only other film I can think of off the top of my head where the director planned everything so well was John Carpenter and The Thing. Alfonso Cuaron did a masterful job and also deserves serious credit for shitting all over expository films. What got me in the movie were all the violent scenes. It is seriously one of the most graphic movies I have ever seen in my life and the scene where Theo's ex-wife is shot by the bandits forced me to pause the film and take a 15-minute break the first time I watched it. The action scenes still give me anxiety to this day.

For all its problems, the UK has some phenomenal film talent.
 
Kofi Drinka said:
He wanted a fucking roll! Give this man a cheese and pickle roll and get the ref back in the kitchen.

I don't think men's sports should have female refs. They can't keep up with the men moving as well and if they get hit they're going to get seriously injured. Women can ref women's sports and wear bikinis with stripes on them to help the eye candy. And give better pictures when they pick up the dildos thrown on the pitch
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Could not agree more!


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Hey Johnny Bravo said:
Children of Men is terrifically directed and planned. The only other film I can think of off the top of my head where the director planned everything so well was John Carpenter and The Thing. Alfonso Cuaron did a masterful job and also deserves serious credit for shitting all over expository films. What got me in the movie were all the violent scenes. It is seriously one of the most graphic movies I have ever seen in my life and the scene where Theo's ex-wife is shot by the bandits forced me to pause the film and take a 15-minute break the first time I watched it. The action scenes still give me anxiety to this day.

For all its problems, the UK has some phenomenal film talent.
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Have you watched Little Britain? It is art at its finest
 
Kofi Drinka said:
This sounds like a load of bollocks. You haven't explained why Baz needs it. What benefit does Baz actually get from Shakespeare in real terms? What can he get from six months studying Shakespeare he couldn't get from watching a 90 minute movie version?
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Alright you big invert snob, you want an answer why "Baz" benefits from a decent education in this sceptred isle's proud literary traditions? Because maybe he doesn't want to stay "Baz" all his life. And if he does, well that's all fine. But the choice shouldn't be made for him when he's 15 years old. That's why kids get Maths and English Literature and Art and other such taught to them at school. To build a foundation and give them choices.

You make a virtue out of ignorance. I'm fine with you seeing me as some poncy effete cultured type because for most of us it isn't a split where you are either a proud Northern Englishman who opposes the destruction of his people; or some Literature reading mincer who is welcoming its destruction. You can be proud of your country and well-read. You can be able to handle yourself in a fight and know what a iamb is. You don't have to, but there's no reason you can't. But you, you great big snob, seem to think it's one or the other and that educating kids is some kind of brainwashing abuse.

I tell you that most of the great leaders and great speakers have a background in such. At least enough to be able to rouse people with their words. I posted a speech by Oswald Mosley in this thread a while back. I'll post it again. He was a phenomenal speaker. Why? Because he had a clear understanding of diction, language and delivery.


He could do more to motivate people and whip them up into a coherent force than "Big Baz" ever could. Big Baz is just a stereotype. I know what you mean. I've had mates like that. But it's just a stereotype. You don't get far just being a stereotype. You have to grab every damn advantage you can get in this country. And that includes, believe it or not, a good command of language. No, you don't have to walk around saying "I dare do all becomes a man. Who dares do less is none." But the foundations are there in Shakespeare and other great writers. Enjoy it or not as you wish. But do stop trying to put it down or cast it as some effete nonsense.

@Muad'Dick suggests that Shakespeare was the Michael Bay of his day. Well, yes and no. He was a popular entertainer and he wrote for the popular crowd. But back then popular didn't mean the same as low-brow. Every day working people loved this stuff. And in many ways were more educated than the average person today. A really interesting book called The Shakespeare Riots by Nigel Cliff covers how two rival groups of Shakespearen actor fans had a massive rolling street brawl in New York and indirectly led to the first arming of the police. There's a lot more to the book than that. It talks about how prospectors and river boat workers would have a copy of Shakespeare's works and read them to each other and act them out. These were hardened pick-axe wielding men living off beans and stream water and they could read the "faggotese" as it was called above. They could read it and enjoy it. It was populist entertainment for the masses and filled with humour clever and crass. But it wasn't low-brow because back then popular didn't have to be.

So when I read your posts talking about "high brow stuff" being not for the masses, @Muad'Dick kind of has the right of it - this stuff was for the masses. It's just that didn't make it low-brow and I don't like that you think "low-brow" is what the masses get. I see you playing into the hands of everybody who wants the British people to be dumb, to lose connection with their heritage and their identity. By trying to push the modern idea that to be an honest, patriotic person is somehow at odds with being an educated person. You want to cede debate to Left Wing academics? That's how you do it. With attitudes like yours.

I like Shakespeare. Shakespeare is great. And I'm more than fine with teaching it to kids at school. Just not for five years straight and Macbeth every year. Do it properly - you do a Shakespeare for your GCSE and if you do sixth form, you do one for your A-levels if you pick that subject. It's good that kids learn this.

And when they grow up, maybe they'll remember that line from Henry VI:
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Kofi Drinka said:
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Shakespeare wasn’t high brow. It was made to be performed to the rabble. It’s often crude, and often sublime. It’s our culture, and denigrating and removing it from schools would be something the globohomo would love.
Americans already wrecked Robin Hood - Kevin Costner’s accent deserves a few weeeksnin the stocks.
Spud said:
Ah yes, women can't read aloud to bond with their kids as well as men can, fuck me that's a good one.
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‘They need to bond with the kids in a way that mothers don’t’
- well there’s a sentence for analysis, lol. I had to read it again too. The need is the focus, not the inability of the mother. But it’s very easy to read it other way (I did too at first.)
‘For five points, explain what the object of this sentence is and how it could be used to produce so called ‘clickbait’ reactions. ‘
 
>IMPLYING said:
I agree.
PL + slight spoiler for Children of Men:
I don't often get teary-eyed at shit, but there's two exceptions: Alzheimer-related shit, and whatever you'd call that scene in Children of Men when the two sides stop fighting when they hear the baby crying and let them through. These two things have lead to some absolutely embarrassing bouts of emotion, and sometimes for the dumbest examples of media out there, including the likes of Robot and Frank, Dante's Peak, and Ricky Gervais' After Life, which I was forced to watch with someone.
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Omg yes. That scene gets me every time. It's especially the where some of the soldiers kneel along with the immigrants, and several of both groups are genuflecting.
 
Mister Fister said:
You can't make Robin Hood, today it would be Robbin' in Da Hood.
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Sky made that last year. A bunch of urban kids pretend to be Robin Hood.
Overly Serious said:
Alright you big invert snob, you want an answer why "Baz" benefits from a decent education in this sceptred isle's proud literary traditions? Because maybe he doesn't want to stay "Baz" all his life. And if he does, well that's all fine. But the choice shouldn't be made for him when he's 15 years old. That's why kids get Maths and English Literature and Art and other such taught to them at school. To build a foundation and give them choices.
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I'm not an inverted snob. I have no problem with there being after school Shakespeare class or going it for six form and beyond. I don't think Shakespeare engages children in a way that's helpful and it does more harm to their desire to read than it helps the few who make use of it.
Overly Serious said:
You make a virtue out of ignorance.
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I make a virtue out of getting shit done and not wasting 29 pupil's time to 1 of them can go to clown college and be on stage.
Overly Serious said:
You make a virtue out of ignorance. I'm fine with you seeing me as some poncy effete cultured type because for most of us it isn't a split where you are either a proud Northern Englishman who opposes the destruction of his people; or some Literature reading mincer who is welcoming its destruction. You can be proud of your country and well-read. You can be able to handle yourself in a fight and know what a iamb is. You don't have to, but there's no reason you can't. But you, you great big snob, seem to think it's one or the other and that educating kids is some kind of brainwashing abuse.
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I don't think it's one or the other. People are deeper than that but school is supposed to be useful. I've yet to see why a 15 year old studying Shakespeare is useful to any one. It's something that should be an option (like learning German or French is an option) but it shouldn't be the default.
Otterly said:
Shakespeare wasn’t high brow. It was made to be performed to the rabble. It’s often crude, and often sublime. It’s our culture, and denigrating and removing it from schools would be something the globohomo would love.
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Shakespeare these days is high brow bollocks for toffee nose twats. What it was and what it is are not the same thing. Modern rabble entertainment is Marvel. Having half your play in an alien language (olde English) isn't exactly what big Baz is looking for.
Overly Serious said:
Oh, no they aren't.
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Oh so you are a bloke in a dress. I always thought so..

But in seriousness. More people relate to Snow White at Christmas than they do Shakespeare. It's forced on pupils at school and then most people couldn't careless. If I'm preserving propa British Culture. Shakespeare should be reversed as a torture device and Snow White is going to the top of the culture pile. Christmas Carol is at it's very peak with the Muppets version. It's entertaining, a well put together musical and it keeps the story whole and relatable to the average Joe. If Shakespeare wants to be part of the modern culture then it needs to do a Muppet version as good as Christmas Carol.

I'm only half joking. I genuinely think MCC is the best version ever made and better than the original novel. If I introduce my kids to the story it will be with the Muppets unedited version. It's the right way to update a classic story to be more relatable to people living way in the future.
 
Scrooged is my families favourite Christmas Carol, but the Muppets one is pretty good as well. If we're talking adaptations of Dickens though, then the Oliver Reed one is the best. Nancy looks like a council estate mum; Reed is demonic as Sykes, Fagan...well Fagan looks like Charles Dickens wrote him. Lol, lmao.
 
Chunky Salsa said:
Scrooged is my families favourite Christmas Carol, but the Muppets one is pretty good as well. If we're talking adaptations of Dickens though, then the Oliver Reed one is the best. Nancy looks like a council estate mum; Reed is demonic as Sykes, Fagan...well Fagan looks like Charles Dickens wrote him. Lol, lmao.
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Scrooged is good but it takes too many liberties.

Ignore the American voice over. This one is very funny and worth watching if you haven't.
 
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