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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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A Star Wars book is great for getting a kid into reading, but it’s not got the linguistic or cultural depth to be studied. you don’t get much time to study, so you need what gives you most bang for the buck.
I really disagree that working class kids don’t need this stuff. Are we just writing the working class off then? I grew up poor as a church mouse and was told by serveral people through my school life that my destiny was popping a couple of kids out as a single mum in a council flat. I didn’t have any rich family, so my only way out was education. I don’t like the idea that Baz is too dim for anything other than a life of deanobox and telly. Maybe Baz has the next great novel in him? I did a bunch of A levels, mainly sciences, but the English Lit one in many ways was most useful.
This sounds like a load of bollocks. You haven't explained why Baz needs it. What benefit does Baz actually get from Shakespeare in real terms? What can he get from six months studying Shakespeare he couldn't get from watching a 90 minute movie version? You think he needs a middle class education and he doesn't. It's not writing Baz off as a thicko, it's being realistic about Baz's needs. Would Baz be better served learning ye olde English or having cooking lessons? Would he get more out of the relationships he'd get from playing Rugby or quoting Romeo and Juliet? School is full of too much middle class wanking that isn't practical in the real world. I'm all for higher education studying Shakespeare but there's ways to do that without making it general learning. The odds of Baz becoming the next big writer are so small that it's just not worth investing that much time and effort into useless things to discover him.

I've yet to see any one show some actual value to studying Shakespeare. Real world, helps in general life or the work force practicality. We have so many dickheads with English degrees doing nothing with their lives but smoking weed I feel like we need less of them not more. You might disagree, but I've still not seen a practical argument for Shakespeare. Even as a historical figure he's not interesting. I'd rather learn about Robin Hood and engage with something cool at least. Would be far more engaging for the kids and help them more.

BOTH parents can and should be doing this, no? I read to all mine every night (bar illness or late nights) and so did my other half. Silly voices and all.
Both parents should but the father needs specific bonding time with kids. There is a natural barrier between fathers and children that mothers don't have. Things like breast feeding naturally build a connection between mother and child. Fathers need to specifically be made to act in dependable and fun ways to build up his relationship. There's nothing wrong with mother's reading to their kids (it should be encouraged) but it benefits father-child relationships more.
 
This sounds like a load of bollocks. You haven't explained why Baz needs it. What benefit does Baz actually get from Shakespeare in real terms? What can he get from six months studying Shakespeare he couldn't get from watching a 90 minute movie version? You think he needs a middle class education and he doesn't. It's not writing Baz off as a thicko, it's being realistic about Baz's needs. Would Baz be better served learning ye olde English or having cooking lessons? Would he get more out of the relationships he'd get from playing Rugby or quoting Romeo and Juliet? School is full of too much middle class wanking that isn't practical in the real world. I'm all for higher education studying Shakespeare but there's ways to do that without making it general learning. The odds of Baz becoming the next big writer are so small that it's just not worth investing that much time and effort into useless things to discover him.

I've yet to see any one show some actual value to studying Shakespeare. Real world, helps in general life or the work force practicality. We have so many dickheads with English degrees doing nothing with their lives but smoking weed I feel like we need less of them not more. You might disagree, but I've still not seen a practical argument for Shakespeare. Even as a historical figure he's not interesting. I'd rather learn about Robin Hood and engage with something cool at least. Would be far more engaging for the kids and help them more.
Baz would be better off at a vocational school at 14 here.
 
So find a better version of the same story that relates to people today. Maybe one with a robot dog companion and a couple of interstellar wars.
I'd buy it.




I'm still of the camp that says Shakespeare was the Michael Bay of his day. I'm not saying he's shit. Who doesn't love robots and a good explosion. But the Bard's work was pitched firmly at the hoi polloi of his day and it's only the language that elevates it when viewed through a contemporary lens.

Also, Imogen is best girl. Don't @ me.
 
Baz would be better off at a vocational school at 14 here.
I completely agree. That's what my point is. Our schools are teaching everyone as if they're middle class wankers. They don't teach practical life skills but they do teach skills only a very narrow band of people are ever going to need and they spend excessive time on doing so. The system is designed for and by middle class wankers and it does no one any good. If you complain about the middle management society we live in today you have to look at the school system. Our entire system is designed to make civil servants and spread sheet fillers. That's it and that's the type of people who want to learn Shakespeare instead of a trade.
 
This sounds like a load of bollocks. You haven't explained why Baz needs it. What benefit does Baz actually get from Shakespeare in real terms? What can he get from six months studying Shakespeare he couldn't get from watching a 90 minute movie version? You think he needs a middle class education and he doesn't. It's not writing Baz off as a thicko, it's being realistic about Baz's needs. Would Baz be better served learning ye olde English or having cooking lessons? Would he get more out of the relationships he'd get from playing Rugby or quoting Romeo and Juliet? School is full of too much middle class wanking that isn't practical in the real world. I'm all for higher education studying Shakespeare but there's ways to do that without making it general learning. The odds of Baz becoming the next big writer are so small that it's just not worth investing that much time and effort into useless things to discover him.
If the aim is just pure job skills, then schooling itself could be realistically shortened. Significantly, by a few years. We can't do that, since leaving age is 16. Not teaching Shakespeare, or teaching it; to me is an odd debate. Schools already don't teach it, they skim read it, and then give you piece of piss exams. They mostly just waste kids time, and soft ball all the material you're supposed to be focusing on. This is true of all subjects that they 'teach'. I've taught A-level students and outside of rote memory tests; they are basically retarded.

I think that classics, and classic literature should be taught, to all children. It broadens their vocab, it broadens critical thinking in the analysis, and it anchors them to their own history and culture. There currently exists no school in the UK (that the average person goes to), that will do any of that, in any form, in any classes, to any class of child. Education is treated as a simple 'input/output' problem by the government (probably because they are soulless drones), and that is not how it should work. Education should be about teaching students more than just memorisation; it should be about building a proper foundation for lifelong learning - because it is very important for your future job, and is very important for helping build a well rounded person.

If I had magical control over the education system, I'd aim for maybe scrapping the PGCE system entirely as an immediate post graduate program; and aim for people closer to middle age who already have worked in various areas. I'd have more practical classes. I'd make work experience actual experience, at actual workplaces rather than just a box ticking exercise. I am 50/50 on corporal punishment; as it has been found to work in regards to discipline, but then if an adult put a finger on my little brother I'd run him (the teacher) over as he was leaving his work and finish him off with a rock, or just go and beat the shit out of his kid. So I can't really advocate for it.

Overall I think the education system, as a system - rather than what they teach - is just absolutely broken. There is no controlling a classroom, you just have to get lucky and not get a bunch of abandoned children (and if your kid is a raving lunatic, you have abandoned them as a parent!). The material is taught by rote. I taught science; and one student just wrote in a bunch of keywords, rather than full sentences and when it was returned from external invigilation, it was accepted as a full answer; completely absurd. Maybe bring back national service? I know a lot of people bring up 'bad parents'. I used to ring parents on my lunch break every day and tell them their shithead kid wasn't in class. The parents would always go ballistic, be very angry at the kid, apologise, agree to come in. These were parents that wanted their child in education, but short of just sitting in the classroom with them; the kid wasn't staying. How do you fix that?

EDIT: I also hate to blame everything on the brown hordes, but they are impossible to properly educate. They are so disruptive that it's beyond absurd. As a male, teaching them wasn't so bad since I could just brow beat them; but the female teacher didn't even try or they'd get a tirade of mud man jabber that was so very clearly sexual, or derogatory. Putting your child in a class with non whites is child abuse.

@>IMPLYING I'm coming for your essay posting gimmick boy. Better find a new job now boy.
 
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I think that classics, and classic literature should be taught, to all children. It broadens their vocab, it broadens critical thinking in the analysis, and it anchors them to their own history and culture.
There are classics that would engage children and those that wouldn't. History and culture are not tied to Shakespeare or Robert Burns. Robin Hood is as much of a historical and cultural icon and he will engage children in a way Shakespeare struggles.

Our culture has to evolve, it cannot simply be "these are the classics because they are okay?" Schooling doesn't seem to have adapted to the new technology we have and I'm not sure it can. The concept of a school maybe becoming out of date entirely. But they're essential for the worker drones to work their day jobs so they won't go any where. I don't know the best way to do education in 2025. I know I wouldn't want to send my kid to a modern British school though.
How do you fix that?
Canes across the knuckles.
 
I know I wouldn't want to send my kid to a modern British school though.
Yeah, fuck that lmao. It's a bizarre mix of a gay panopticon, and also a cuddle factory that teaches you essentially nothing of value. We would have constant meetings about this or that student that was screaming in the halls; or would break down crying when put under mild pressure. We would be given their safety nets, and their coping routines. It meant that every other lesson there'd be disruption, because a student needed to have a screaming match with the teacher, or the student would sperg out and rave, or the student would run out of class and spark a mini manhunt.

The need to monitor every single aspect of all students all the time, has created a system where all boxes must be ticked; since you can't make a random 20 something grad that did a PGCE to void their student debt, a teacher/social worker/first aider/therapist all in one 12 month block; you just lower the standards of that box so everyone can meet it. At the same time, because you have to be cognizant of all the 'needs' of the students, you can't properly maintain discipline. I'm a big guy, so a 15 year old squaring up and trying to act hard, really wasn't an issue; since I know from his file he pisses the bed, and cries in the bathroom every day. For some of the female teachers it must have been terrifying. Either way it takes up to two years to get the spastics taken out a class. One spastic is enough to bomb out every other students chances at learning anything other 'RECALL FACT!' style material.

I'd probably scrap the 'muh mentals' support structure entirely, since I constantly had students use it as a way of dodging work and walking out of class. "I'M HAVING A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS!!!" Right, then fuck off to the funny farm then; don't come back in ten minutes with a cadbury bar, a can of coke, and a teddy bear (Something, that actually kept happening!).

Also half the teachers I knew blatantly flirted with the female students, which was gross, but that apparently isn't an issue!
 
I'd probably scrap the 'muh mentals' support structure entirely, since I constantly had students use it as a way of dodging work and walking out of class. "I'M HAVING A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS!!!" Right, then fuck off to the funny farm then; don't come back in ten minutes with a cadbury bar, a can of coke, and a teddy bear (Something, that actually kept happening!).
Why a Teddy bear?
Also half the teachers I knew blatantly flirted with the female students, which was gross, but that apparently isn't an issue!
Aren't most female teachers now barely out of school themselves? My female teachers were proper matron types. Huge fat women or skinny spinsters and they ruled with an iron fist. Even the nerdy Math teacher who was.. well a nerdy math teacher was respected despite being a bit of a loser. He was your stereotypical star trek nerd and softly spoken but he still taught well and managed the class.

I realize I read that wrong, I thought it was female teachers flirting with male students. I know I will get neg ratings for it but.. Why are so many school girls dressing like prostitutes? I'm not even going to fully blame the teachers here. If you're going to dress like a slag and act like a slag don't be shocked when men treat you like one. Teachers shouldn't be flirting with them but I can see why it happens. We need proper school uniform rules again and skirts cannot be above the knee. A knee length skirt covers everything but it's still cool enough for the summer.
 
Why a Teddy bear?
Because it was a comfort item for this particular student (big fat male student, hated men, would freak out if I ever told him off and cry. Real pathetic shit).
Aren't most female teachers now barely out of school themselves? My female teachers were proper matron types. Huge fat women or skinny spinsters and they ruled with an iron fist. Even the nerdy Math teacher who was.. well a nerdy math teacher was respected despite being a bit of a loser. He was your stereotypical star trek nerd and softly spoken but he still taught well and managed the class.

I realize I read that wrong, I thought it was female teachers flirting with male students. I know I will get neg ratings for it but.. Why are so many school girls dressing like prostitutes? I'm not even going to fully blame the teachers here. If you're going to dress like a slag and act like a slag don't be shocked when men treat you like one. Teachers shouldn't be flirting with them but I can see why it happens. We need proper school uniform rules again and skirts cannot be above the knee. A knee length skirt covers everything but it's still cool enough for the summer.
We had a female teacher that got a bit flirty as well. She was a little younger than me (I was mid twenties). I think teachers should as a rule, be older than they currently are.

I can see what you mean with the way female students dress. A lot of them do dress - to be generous - fashionably. A lot of them don't, they'll wear jeans, a t shirt, whatever; but yes, some do dress in a way that would get you sent home from work. I'm not going to pretend like it's not at least somewhat reciprocal on behalf of the students (teenagers are horny and dumb.) I had a student that would follow me around like a lovesick puppy - even sometimes waiting outside the staff room to try and casually make conversation. I think uniforms should be put in place, or at least a stricter dress code.

The issue is that there doesn't seem to be a culture of teachers being on the look out for it anymore. I would always have my lab door wedged open, and when talking with a student, my fellow science teacher (a woman) would be in the shared room with me, this was a deliberate effort on my part. Only one other teacher out of the 11 or so we worked with, did this. Every other teacher was off having 1 on 1 meetings with students behind closed doors, was casually touching (not sexually, but too friendly) students. One was even in a group chat with a few of them. Most teachers are not going to molest their students; but most teachers aren't maintaining the barrier between professional and friendly. It seems like it could be helpful because students like you more, it's not. It leaves students off kilter, it means you are at the same time an authority figure; and a pal. So when you switch between them, you confused students, you upset them, you fuck things up.

EDIT: Younger teachers seem very prone to this, they want to seem likeable, or cool, and it means they do things they otherwise wouldn't. I get it, I had students I liked more than others, who I'd be willing to do more for, but there has to be a limit. That limit should be your professionalism, and a lot of teachers lack that. I think, because they lack life experience, or aren't an uptight sperg like me.
 
They all seem to have bikes as well for some reason.
Oh, had you not seen some of those schemes?
A Labour council is offering 50 per cent off e-bike rentals to asylum seekers.
Wandsworth Borough Council, which Labour won from the Tories in 2022, offers discounts from 50 per cent to 100 per cent on services including gym sessions, swimming lessons, wedding ceremonies and event tickets.
Asylum seekers, people in receipt of benefits, children getting free school meals, and looked-after children, are eligible for the Access for All concessions scheme.
The council has announced that a 50 per cent discount for e-bike rentals will now be included in the scheme as a result of “a pioneering deal with Lime, Forest and Voi”, three providers of the bikes.

Simon Hogg, the council leader, said: “It’s about opening up affordable, sustainable travel that helps our residents to access work and entertainment opportunities across the borough.

“We’re proud that Lime, Forest and Voi have agreed to join Access for All and to operate respectfully and safely. We are making sure that no one is priced out of healthy and sustainable travel.”
According to the council, there were 6.8 million trips made by rented e-bike in Wandsworth in the year to this May.
A spokesman for Wandsworth borough council said: “Our Access for All scheme is Britain’s most generous concessionary scheme and breaks down barriers to make sure all residents have an equal chance to access local opportunities.
“This includes tens of thousands of low-income residents who receive benefits, children who receive free school meals, looked after children and care leavers, as well as asylum seekers and refugees.”
However, Chris Philp, the Tory shadow home secretary, said: “It is a slap in the face to hard-pressed taxpayers that are being forced by a Labour council to subsidise perks for illegal immigrants crossing the Channel who then claim asylum.
“At a time when people are struggling to make ends meet thanks to Labour’s tax rises, this woke council is funnelling public money to illegal immigrants. It’s an insult to every struggling family in the country. Labour has the wrong priorities.”

It follows audits by Reform UK’s anti-waste council team, which has revealed that asylum seekers were being taken trampolining, bowling, to the cinema and on shopping sprees, including to a store selling luxury hair extensions

Auditors – styled on Elon Musk’s department of government efficiency in the US – said the trips out, and other spending at JD Sports and PC World, cost taxpayers more than £24,000 between April 2022 and December.
The claims were made about Kent county council as part of Reform UK’s drive to inspect accounts at 10 local authorities of which it won control in May. Zia Yusuf, who is running Reform’s Doge unit, said he was concerned some local authority bosses were treating taxpayers as “their own personal piggy bank”.
 
What good does Big Baz and Little Terry get from learning Shakespeare in school? What possible benefit does Romeo and Juliet have to those two living a working class life? It's a load of wank to them, puts them off reading and makes them bored at school.
It's obvious you have staunch views about literature and clearly don't particularly care for culture whatsoever, but I'll take the bait regardless.

I did not read Romeo & Juliet at school, we read The Tempest, Othello, Richard III, and maybe A Midsummer Night's Dream plus some sonnets. I can't say I'm a huge fan of MND but the rest are all excellent plays that stand the test of time and have themes and components that are universally entertaining and thought provoking. You can deride the language as much as you want, but one of the most interesting aspects of Shakespeare is the enormous contribution he made to English vernacular. He invented many, many words and turns of phrase that are commonplace today. The idea of staunchly advocating for the preservation of British culture while mocking Shakespeare for being boring and gay is completely laughable.
 
I re-watched a few movies yesterday, and Children of Men was one of them. Man, they were almost right about the UK in the mid-2020's. Instead of oppressing the browns, they oppress British citizens. They say Bexhill really looks like that now.
 
Most teachers are not going to moles their students; but most teachers aren't maintaining the barrier between professional and friendly.
I don't know enough teachers any more to say they wouldn't bang students or at least get suggestive photos. I always think everyone is as bad as they have an opportunity to be. Every man has a price and the right student will cross the line with the right teacher. It's just a matter of how many get found out.

All of our adults are refusing to be adults. Everyone wants to be friends with the youth instead of mentors and leaders. On a personal note this is also effecting dog training. So many dog owners now don't see themselves as the pack leader. They want their pets to be friends with them and they don't step up to take proper pack authority. So dogs don't know who's in charge and challenge them constantly. It's like we've lost the concept of being a leader is how you show children and animals you care about them and want the best for them. You're leading them to be better people and you can show affection (your own kids, pets) without giving up authority. Instead everyone wants to be the mother who's friends with their kids to everything.

The idea of staunchly advocating for the preservation of British culture while mocking Shakespeare for being boring and gay is completely laughable.
I don't consider Shakespeare to be a tent pole of British culture. Language evolving is interesting but is it as relevant as having a Bovril at the footy? Culture isn't strictly stage shows and if it was I would argue Snow White pantos are far more relevant to British culture as I know it than Shakespeare is.

I understand where you're coming from. I understand the high brow culture matters to a lot of people, but it doesn't matter to just as many people if not more. Most of my schooling taught me very little proper English history. We studied so many foreign cultures and none of our own. Things like War of the roses was side lined so we could learn about ancient Egypt of all things.
 
Teachers now,for the most part, are not only too young (because the churn rate is high and many GTFO) but also lack life experience.

They go from school to college to uni, to a PGCE. None of the teachers I know worked while at uni,unlike a great number of students. Many of them lived at home. All of them have no experience of actual life.

They're a complete contrast to the teachers I had,who were older,had actual gravitas and respect from kids. We're sending children to teach children and it's not working.

People like to cite Finland as being the best education system but part of how they do things is, teachers must have a PhD. This means they're older than what we're churning out. I'd be willing to bet those extra few years make a difference,as well as weeding out those who aren't suited to it. The saying "those who can't,teach" didn't come out of nowhere.
 
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Teachers now,for the most part, are not only too young (because the churn rate is high and many GTFO) but also lack life experience.

They go from school to college to uni, to a PGCE. None of the teachers I know worked while at uni,unlike a great number of students. Many of them lived at home. All of them have no experience of actual life.
I think one of the most jarring things about my mid-to-early 20s was seeing people I had been at school with becoming teachers. You have a fairly good perspective of what you do and don't know, what you're capable of, and have to assume your peers are at a similar standard. Makes you very much question what business at 24 year old or whatever has trying to effectively a teach a group of children.

Also doesn't help that you then realise just how fucking retarded and fallible teachers really are if certain people are able to become one right out of uni.
 
It has to specifically be the father because they need to bond with the kids in a way mothers don't.
Ah yes, women can't read aloud to bond with their kids as well as men can, fuck me that's a good one.
We need proper school uniform rules again and skirts cannot be above the knee
Where do you live that there is no school uniform rules, my old schools still have them. The issue with school uniforms is that they're designed to rape the wallets of parents. You're telling me that a polo T-shirt and a solid colour jumper that solely because it has the logo of the school costs over £150 (each) that's excluding needing re-buys cause either the kids grew, their poorly made materials and crafting unraveled in the wash or the school decided to change it and will gladly punish your kid for wearing the older versions despite nothing wrong with it. School uniforms are a racket, plain white Tee (polo or dress), Black pants/or skirt for the girls and sensible school shoes is perfectly acceptable and affordable for the parents.

Regarding education: You have many teachers who didn't get the job because they wanted to teach but rather they wanted authority over other peoples kids, a big part of why boys are doing bad in school due to these types of teachers increasing. If anything Homeschooling is probably the best option if you want you kids to have a desire for education and learning but much like houses, gets more restricted by price with every passing day.
 
I'm mildly upset at the melanated hordes today.

First off, always do a Companies House lookup on the directors if you're making a big purchase. I'm still paying off a house project and they are nothing but trouble. Bad product, awful work. Am stuck having to deal with a company full of accented "boss" men to get their shitty work right. Why do they almost always conduct business and customer support through WhatsApp?

Second, the heartwarming kinship you feel with other queuing shoppers when some melanated single mother is trying to split her payment over six different payment methods for the £300 trolley of processed ready meals and frozen dinners for her dozen hellspawn to consume in a few days.

Old lady behind me started whispering about why the melanated woman (who'd decided to dye her dreadlocks blue for some reason) tried paying with all of her credit cards (declined) and then had an envelope full of cash regardless to cover the full amount.
 
Ah yes, women can't read aloud to bond with their kids as well as men can, fuck me that's a good one.
He's very clearly not saying that. "Fathers need to bond with kids in a way the mother doesn't" Isn't saying "Moids good! Foids bad!", it's saying that there is an ease of bonding with the children that a mother has; and a father lacks. That the fathers need to take the role of doing things like bed time stories because they need to bond with their children more actively.

I'm not sure how true that is, but it's definitely not a pro-man stance by any stretch of the imagination. I was raised by a single mother and a step-dad since the age of about 10, so I can't really speak to if it's true or not. I always got on well with my mother; but didn't really warm to my dad (stepdad but whatever), until my late teens, when I started taking off with the gym, weightlifting, Rugby and other things. I think it's easier to bond with your mother, or father over different things for sure. Not convinced that story time at bed is one of those though. My mother - tranny hater that she is - read me Harry Potter, Narnia, and an obscure book about a kid who hunted humanoid dragons, as a kid.
 
He's very clearly not saying that.
It has to specifically be the father because they need to bond with the kids in a way mothers don't.
I don't disagree with the sentiment of his post that mum's and dad's bond with their kids in different ways through different activities but there is a much more eloquent way to say it, I find the way he said it to be extremely funny cause it's a man with Aspergers way of saying it.
 
I don't disagree with the sentiment of his post that mum's and dad's bond with their kids in different ways through different activities but there is a much more eloquent way to say it, I find the way he said it to be extremely funny cause it's a man with Aspergers way of saying it.
Hmm, that might explain why I got what he was saying immediately. Fucking lmao. Show the post to people like it's the blood test from The Thing.

"What's he saying here?" And they either get a lil confused, or clock it immediately and list every species of paper moth in alphabetical order.
 
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