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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Whilst I wouldn't go as far to say his last books were outright bad, you can definitely see his embuggerance at work and they're not as good a choice as the earlier ones.
I have yet to read the last one. Call me a sad ole cunt but is what it is.

We did Lord of the Flies and Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein along with what seemed like years of Macbeth. GSCE English Literature was a form of torture.

Shame we didn’t do Of Mice and Men but probably for the best they kept that away from us. The whole class would probably have yelled nigger at any chance.
 
Has the bong government figured out that the migrants can be housed in trailer parks yet?
Funnily enough that's what a council I know of does to locals. I'd hope they don't get told, lest they go throwing out everyone there to make way for the invaders.
 
My school basically allowed the teachers to choose which Shakespeare play they wanted to teach every year.
And every year they went with Macbeth by sheer coincidence.
That’s really poor management. We did Macbeth, Chaucer, Beowulf, some of the slightly more risqué old poets (I remember ‘to his coy mistress’) 1984, the crucible, sense and sensibility, and I think we used to sometimes do whatever had won the booker prize or was ‘best’ on the list.
It IS important to learn literature. This is our culture and I disagree that it’s not for boys - men wrote most of those books and yet they’re for girls? Nah, this is for us all, it’s important, The only ‘girl’ book we did was the Austen, the rest were not at all girly.
 
Be careful with wearing political clothing. This country has a lot of laws against political uniforms dating back to the 50s and 70s. You can fall foul of a law and end up in court because you wore the wrong hat or shirt. It's not been applied yet but you know Starmer would use it.
The missus has indicated that this shirt will not be getting bought for birthdays or Christmas in the near future, so I guess I'm safe for now.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but which laws would this shirt be against? I would have thought someone at Reform would have done some research before selling the thing. Is the idea that people would only wear it in their house? Otherwise it seems pretty useless.
 
The missus has indicated that this shirt will not be getting bought for birthdays or Christmas in the near future, so I guess I'm safe for now.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but which laws would this shirt be against? I would have thought someone at Reform would have done some research before selling the thing. Is the idea that people would only wear it in their house? Otherwise it seems pretty useless.
"(1)Subject as hereinafter provided, any person who in any public place or at any public meeting wears uniform signifying his association with any political organisation or with the promotion of any political object shall be guilty of an offence"

Public Order Act 1936. Also has a clause allowing the local chief constable to allow political uniforms if it's "not likely to involve risk of public disorder".

If the law were applied without fear or favour, the black bloc faggots, Palestine nutters with their matching keffiyehs etc. would absolutely fall under this law but funnily enough they never are charged under it.

The Unlawful Drilling Act has, however, been repealed on the mainland so you can train up a gammon freikorps without fear as long as none of you have matching t-shirts
 
"(1)Subject as hereinafter provided, any person who in any public place or at any public meeting wears uniform signifying his association with any political organisation or with the promotion of any political object shall be guilty of an offence"

Public Order Act 1936. Also has a clause allowing the local chief constable to allow political uniforms if it's "not likely to involve risk of public disorder".

If the law were applied without fear or favour, the black bloc faggots, Palestine nutters with their matching keffiyehs etc. would absolutely fall under this law but funnily enough they never are charged under it.

The Unlawful Drilling Act has, however, been repealed on the mainland so you can train up a gammon freikorps without fear as long as none of you have matching t-shirts
Thanks. To all American lurkers - you are right to mock us. Just look at this. This fake and gay island literally has a law on the books saying I can't wear a T-shirt.

Interesting that you mention a gammon freikorps. Sometimes I have the idle thought that it would be fun to create a bacon appreciaters club or similar, just to exclude certain untermensch who for various reasons don't enjoy the great taste of pork. "Gammon Freikorps" is even a catchy name. Only entry requirement is to eat a Wetherspoons gammon and chips while witnessed by two existing members.
 
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It IS important to learn literature. This is our culture and I disagree that it’s not for boys - men wrote most of those books and yet they’re for girls? Nah, this is for us all, it’s important, The only ‘girl’ book we did was the Austen, the rest were not at all girly.
I think you're absolutely right, a good book teaches you many life lessons along with giving you insight into the history of a nation and cultural attitudes at the time. I would go as far to say that fiction can often teach us more about life and the world than non-fiction books, as authors have more freedom in the themes they wish to explore. One book that I found to be particularly enlightening — despite vehemently disagree with its politics on socialism — was The Ragged Trousered Philanthropist by Robert Tressel because it was one of the few novels that focused itself on the working class of Britain in the pre-war era. Much of the observations made by the author still apply today and it is inarguable that working conditions were terrible, though his solutions leave much to be desired, he made a poignant critique of the status quo and society. Moreover, if you read this book you will see how far modern Marxists have strayed from the original messaging and politics of old Labour.
 
As someone from Canada the U.K has to be nearly as worse off as us. The absurd housing prices and migrants. The low wages. The garbage economy. We are in this together.
 
Thanks. To all American lurkers - you are right to mock us. Just look at this. This fake and gay island literally has a law on the books saying I can't wear a T-shirt.

Interesting that you mention a gammon freikorps. Sometimes I have the idle thought that it would be fun to create a bacon appreciaters club or similar, just to exclude certain untermensch who for various reasons don't enjoy the great taste of pork. "Gammon Freikorps" is even a catchy name. Only entry requirement is to eat a Wetherspoons gammon and chips while witnessed by two existing members.
Going to repost this image, don't even care. I tried doing an edit of the one where they're all walking in the tunnel towards the camera but there was a lot of red to paint bucket.

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"ar Nige will sort em out lad"
"you jus call a cob a bap? southern soft shite"

Here's a question for the thread today?
Is it a cob, a bap, a roll, butty, barm, sarnie or a sub?
 
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"(1)Subject as hereinafter provided, any person who in any public place or at any public meeting wears uniform signifying his association with any political organisation or with the promotion of any political object shall be guilty of an offence"

Public Order Act 1936. Also has a clause allowing the local chief constable to allow political uniforms if it's "not likely to involve risk of public disorder".

I highly doubt that Reform UK's football t-shirts would be subject to a classification as 'uniform' for the purposes of the Public Order Act 1936. If the UK wanted to create problems for protestors there already exist a myriad of other avenues through the Public Order Act 1984 or other legislation. This act was mostly used to crack down on organised and visibly uniformed political groups such as the BUF and IRA, and its application to what is almost the second biggest party in the UK would cause nothing short of a political scandal. Moreover, even if it were to be applied to Reform UK, I highly doubt that the decision would withstand the test of Appeal or Judicial Review, as the question of whether it amounts to uniform is dubious. Also it's highly unlikely that the Attorney-General, Richard Hermer, would consent to charges being issued. As such there's little to worry about.

If the law were applied without fear or favour, the black bloc faggots, Palestine nutters with their matching keffiyehs etc. would absolutely fall under this law but funnily enough they never are charged under it.

I disagree, as the law is by design meant to be discretionary in the groups that it targets, as the Attorney-General must give consent for all prosecutions. The entire purpose of the law was to target specific organised groups that existed in the past and has been very rarely used in recent decades. The mere act of wearing a political uniform is an offence, but in practice that isn't really the case. Overzealous application of this law would easily amount to a breach of Human Rights Act 1998, as Article 11 of the ECHR protects your freedom of assembly, and UK courts are bound to consider ECHR caselaw when interpreting UK legislation, meaning that prosecutions brought under the Public Order Act 1936 must have a sufficiently pressing reason for its use.
 
It IS important to learn literature. This is our culture and I disagree that it’s not for boys - men wrote most of those books and yet they’re for girls? Nah, this is for us all, it’s important, The only ‘girl’ book we did was the Austen, the rest were not at all girly.
Men and boys are not the same group of people. The type of stories young boys enjoy aren't going to be in literature classes and Shakespeare is definitely not it. Boys want stories about adventure, sword fights and wars and you can say Shakespeare has that but it's written in faggotese.

The whole school system is feminized. It's set up for girls to sit there quietly, listen and then fill in a form to tell the teacher they listened good. The type of things boys do well at cost money or risk health and safety incidents so it's stripped back to the bare minimum. This includes the books they select for, which are just not appealing to boys entering their teens. Stuff like Conan, Princess of mars or The Hobbit are far more appealing to boys and engage boys with reading, which is a problem we have now.

As a boy I never read books. I had no interest in them because the books I was exposed to were shit. You read for school and then went to play with your mates or on your games consoles. The only books I read were nerdy game rule books and magazines related to it. What got me into reading were novels based on games I played and Tolkien's work. And I enjoyed reading once I found subjects that interested me and I eventually would read other stuff and even dipped my toe into Twilight and got some mild enjoyment out of it at the time. The system completely failed to engage with me as a reader, it never offered me anything I could enjoy so it took a gift from a friend to get me into reading as something I would seek out and not just suffer through.

You can say "Well that's just you", but this is now a major problem because even the fantasy genre, which is traditionally masculine has turned into Anne Rice romance novels. It's getting hard to engage boys with reading because the new stuff isn't there for them to discover and the old stuff is ignored by education. Give boys a copy of The Hobbit and you will engage them. Give them Romeo and Juliet and they will ask why everyone talks like a wanker (and they do. Don't deny ye olde English makes you sound like a twat and young boys do not like sounding like twats).

Give boys a chance to talk about some violence, an adventure and someone having a journey to greatness and you will fire their imagination. Give them Romeo and Juliet and they'll ask why two fucking idiots killed themselves for a shag when Kelly from 3B will show you her tits for a fanta and a freddo frog. Just because men wrote them doesn't mean boys will enjoy them. If you're trying to engage with boys you need to look at Star wars, it's the perfect movie for young boys and it was made with 12 year old boys in mind. If it's like star wars they're probably going to enjoy it. If you want to engage with men then you want to put it against Star Trek or Saving Private Ryan depending on the man. For women and girls you have to ask if there is a love triangle or complex interpersonal relationships they can follow. You can mix and match these but ask yourself how much the reading list of any school includes "Star wars books" and how many include effectively romance novels. Often because it's women choosing the lists and they completely neglect (and in a way abuse) boys and their interests. If we had a mix of both we wouldn't see a crisis of boys refusing to read books like we do now.

As someone from Canada the U.K has to be nearly as worse off as us. The absurd housing prices and migrants. The low wages. The garbage economy. We are in this together.
Fuck off. We're full and we don't care about people who put milk in bags.

@crunkie trying to locate us by how we refer to bread. Well I refuse to tell you what I refer to a bread roll as. No one will ever figure out it's "Bread roll" and "Sandwich" because the region I'm in doesn't gargle cocks when trying to pronounce basic words like Tuh Norf does. We say "alright bruv, fancy a sandwich from abduls tuck and cuck"
 
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My traditional dump of replies having not read the thread since last night...

I'm not aware of it changing - young people I know were awarded estimated grades last year and they had not been in a classroom for over a year. So we're doomed.
I'm confused. There were always estimated grades you used for applying to universities etc. but you still had to get the actual grades from your coursework and exams. Are you saying that even today kids are still getting actual grade awards based on estimates? How is that not a scandal? Is that widespread?

Be me, be giving the dog a final wee before bed. Had to escort a young lady and her daughter home because it appears a guy was trying to sexually assault them. I live in a VERY white area with no hotels in about 20 miles, but I am somewhat shocked, honestly. Basically, the guy was dressed in complete black, and they showed me pictures, but he was following them in a residential area for 25 minutes and kept blocking their exit.

I think I have been trying to escape how bad it is by dissonance, but I am glad they were safe. It was honestly sad to see how scared they were.

I hate these people, and apparently by my own country's laws. That makes me a terrorist.

No woman should be scared to walk outside at night.
Just checking context clues, are you saying the guy was a migrant? I've seen a number of migrants in my area but not aware of any hotels being given over to the purpose. I'm suspecting either they're managing to keep individual room rentals very down low or they're going into private accommodation. They all seem to have bikes as well for some reason.

Can't stand Of Mice And Men either.
The saddest words of Mice and Men: Alex Jones was right again.

Someone made a choose your own adventure game out of the Nicolas (30 ans) meme. Can you save £100,000 for a house before turning 35?

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Best thing about that is he's made it look exactly like the UK government portals for taxes, DVLA, and the rest. Probably just lifted the stylesheet right off the site. Nice touch.

It IS important to learn literature. This is our culture and I disagree that it’s not for boys - men wrote most of those books and yet they’re for girls? Nah, this is for us all, it’s important, The only ‘girl’ book we did was the Austen, the rest were not at all girly.
I think it's definitely important for both boys and girls. I recognize there are some general different patterns in taste but there are plenty of works that appeal well enough for both. Reading the posts here one of the things that's come up multiple times is Shakespeare being taught to 11 or 12 year olds. That's just... they're really going to struggle. Actually, it's not so much the struggling aspect as that they're just not really going to get it. I don't mean the language (though that too) but the themes, the characters, the lot.
 
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