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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Not to mention the national security risk they are by creating radar black spots right when we are on the verge of World War fucking III.

I know they can be seen on navigational radar from miles away, saw a thing on youtube about it and that's for shipping let alone aircraft.

Bringing back coal mining would save a shitload of mining towns, and turn steelworks into something that could actually turn a profit

Sadly not it would be automated for the most part, one of the main problems with getting them back up an running is the lack of maintenance is causing problems now let alone trying to reopen them.

They where not shut down well the guys shutting them down for good where the last guys working an knew it wouldn’t be much longer so half arsed the job or it wasnt even done in some cases just left to flood so can't reopen of the local seam is ruined for quite a way. One thing we still do mine in the UK funnily enough is Salt surprisingly really good quality stuff too.

You watch then as her showbiz pals desert her.
Some already have for some previous gaffs and are starting to be quite obvious about it.
 
I'll either move to North/West Ireland or give up and go somewhere like Slovenia which is probably my favourite eastern euro country I ever visited. I have enough passports to my name to give me a choice of countries at least.
Ireland is incredibly diverse now and there are almost no houses to rent or buy because of it.
 
If we want energy independence from foreign hydrocarbons, then the solution is to extract our own until we can build out enough nuclear to replace them, not building out a mass of unreliable, expensive, short-lived, enviromentally catastrophic "solutions" that are worse than the problem they're meant to solve.
The european green movement's anti-nuclear stance has almost certainly resulted in a markedly worse climate environment and worse standards of living. Easily one of the most destructive policies out there.
 
how are they ever going to up their game with you talking them down? literal field nigger retarded reasoning. they need people like you to voice them up, reform steal their rhetoric but I guarantee they won't deliver. reform are containment, you'll see.
I'm not against them, I'm just pointing out that despite their good points that Reform UK are the only credible option if you want to get rid of the Uniparty/Woke wankers.

At the very very best, I can see Britain First getting one seat at the next GE (and that is if Reform stand aside) - that seat being Tamworth which has got a lot of Britain First supporters.

What I would say to the criticism (justified) about Reform UK is this - at least give them chance in Government and if they screw up then fine we may as well boogaloo by that point.

Would you rather two or three years tops of Nigel and then a younger more far-right leader take charge (somebody in the Golding/Griffin mould) who can then lock the left out of power by lowering taxes, driving up standards, having high levels of employment and banning the UK from participating in needless wars...

...or would you rather the NWO/WEF destroy the UK completely with somebody more woke than Starmer who would allow any dissenters to be killed on sight?

Farage is needed to get Reform UK into power, but he is not the long term solution and arguably the person who succeeds him as both Reform UK leader and PM will be the most important PM since Churchill - the fate, direction and standing of the UK for the next 30-50 years will be on his/her shoulders as we'll need to plan for way beyond 2030, 2040 and even 2050.

What society do we want for the future, and how do we ensure its delivered and not ruined?

Like many of the Britbongs on here, I care a lot for the country I was born in and I'll do my best to ensure that the freedoms I've enjoyed are passed down. For me, that means backing the only option on the table for better or worse - I am certainly not backing any of the others as they will never back me and the beliefs and ideals which I stand for and which my family fought for.
 
One thing we still do mine in the UK funnily enough is Salt surprisingly really good quality stuff too.
Its probably extracted from the tears of the native population, that's why.
The european green movement's anti-nuclear stance has almost certainly resulted in a markedly worse climate environment and worse standards of living. Easily one of the most destructive policies out there.
I'll give you one guess who was their biggest supporter during the Cold War...
 
Like many of the Britbongs on here, I care a lot for the country I was born in and I'll do my best to ensure that the freedoms I've enjoyed are passed down. For me, that means backing the only option on the table for better or worse - I am certainly not backing any of the others as they will never back me and the beliefs and ideals which I stand for and which my family fought for.

you can still talk the right people up instead of talking them down.

griffin's a literal faggot btw

you can't blame niggers for your own naivety, you're part of the problem. working hard to change a light bulb when it's the fuse box has tripped.

i fucking despair. you sound like a boomer my nig
 
you can still talk the right people up instead of talking them down.

griffin's a literal faggot btw

you can't blame niggers for your own naivety, you're part of the problem. working hard to change a light bulb when it's the fuse box has tripped.

i fucking despair. you sound like a boomer my nig
1) Who are these 'right people' then?

2) No, I'm part of what will hopefully be the solution - the only decent offer on the table. The fuse box has tripped, but that's not my fault as I didn't vote for it - blame those who did.

3) You say 'Boomer' like it's an insult, I'm honestly not offended in the slightest - Boomer in spirit but a Gen Z by birth (though such terms are redundant and are generalisations which are only taken seriously by asswater drinking retards.)


Nigel vows to reopen Port Talbot Steelworks.

Based move, he's now won most of Wales over.
 
Interesting timing given the recent talk about power, BBC has an article up about how our energy grid is about as useful as a cock-flavoured lollipop, and you have wind farms being paid to not produce electricity at the same time you're also paying elsewhere for gas powered stations to increase production: https://archive.is/VdtVK

Payments like that happen virtually every day. Seagreen, Scotland's largest wind farm, was paid £65 million last year to restrict its output 71% of the time, according to analysis by Octopus Energy.
 
Ireland is incredibly diverse now and there are almost no houses to rent or buy because of it.
Slight PL but my wife is Irish so I know through her family that things aren't all rosy over there, but by moving there we would be recieving very generous help from her family.

Sadly her family is protestant so I would have to suck that up if we did go there. There's always a downside.

The european green movement's anti-nuclear stance has almost certainly resulted in a markedly worse climate environment and worse standards of living. Easily one of the most destructive policies out there.
It's funny that Germany has basically destroyed any hope of future growth by completely abandoning nuclear power. Not only do they have to pay much higher prices short term, but the ability to build and manage nuclear plants also leaves the country long term. Even our short sighted government understands the importance of spending on nuclear infrastructure and has kept that expertise going in this country.

It would be very satisfying for the germans to have to go to the French or Chinese cap in hand when they desperately need those nuclear plants in 10-15 years time.
 
Interesting timing given the recent talk about power, BBC has an article up about how our energy grid is about as useful as a cock-flavoured lollipop, and you have wind farms being paid to not produce electricity at the same time you're also paying elsewhere for gas powered stations to increase production: https://archive.is/VdtVK
Saw it. They're still bandying around the claim that the electricity price is so high because of gas, even though it makes up less than 10% of the cost of wholesale electric. Curtailment fees, green levy, hidden levies, spot prices artificially biased to favour renewables, levies on fossil fuel production directly, etc etc. It all adds up. More than half the cost of energy in this country is due to the state taking money to fund wind farms in one way or another. We close to the very highest cost of energy in Europe, but they still insist on blaming gas, when every other country has the same exposure and somehow manages to be cheaper.
 
Cool. Who are they going to sell to? It was a failing plant anyway.

The global demand for steel has steadily gone down year on year, even in countries that produce their own. China is still the world's largest steel producer (the top Chinese company produces double the amount of it's closest competitor) and consumer, and their consumption has gone down by 60,000 tonnes in the past four years.

If we had any kind of domestic manufacturing worth a damn, there might be a case for re-opening the plant, but at this point they may as well just open it up as a working museum.

This is just your classic Farage rhetoric. He may as well say he's going to bring back white dog shit, halve the cost of Freddos and re-animate the corpses of Morecambe & Wise for a Christmas special.
 
If we had any kind of domestic manufacturing worth a damn, there might be a case for re-opening the plant, but at this point they may as well just open it up as a working museum.
We still have a shipyard industry, despite the best efforts of everyone involved, and we use a a metric fuckload of steel in general construction. When the vast majority of the steel we use is produced by an unreliable economic competitor, having a domestic new steel industry (not mere recycling, which is all electric arc furnaces can do) is a strategic necessity.

Now, I wouldn't trust Farage to actually understand all that, as he's just saying what he thinks will get him positive attention, but if he does end up doing the right thing for stupid reasons, then the right thing is still done.
 
We still have a shipyard industry, despite the best efforts of everyone involved, and we use a a meetric fuckload of steel in construction. When the vast majority of the steel we use is produced by an unreliable economic competitor, having a domestic new steel industry (not mere recycling, which is all electric arc furnaces can do) is a strategic necessity.
You're not wrong, but theres a reason that companies go further afield for raw materials; we just cannot compete.

Energy prices in the UK (a large factor in why Port Talbot closed in the first place) hamstring heavy manufacturing alone. No company can absorb that cost. It has to be passed on to the consumer. Thats before you factor in things like comparatively higher wages.

If we hadn't privatised the nation in the first place and turned it into the world's least successful industrial estate, then maybe we might still stand a fighting chance on the global market.
 
Privatising all our industry's has got to have been one of the most retarded decisions we ever did. We some how have a worse service then what we did when the government controlled everything and it's all down to the fact it didn't encourage competition which would lead to cheaper prices like they promised it would.

It's just caused monopolies of one or two companies controlling everything and doing what ever they want since you can't boycott water, electric, etc and they spend more time appeasing share holders then anyone else. Now that the countries going down the shitter, they've began sky rocketing the tax so that they can maintain profits (or exceed what they had) or you've got a British steel situation were we now have no steal industry and are the laughing stock of Europe.

It's actually quite impressive how badly as a country we've ban ran.
 
It's actually quite impressive how badly as a country we've ban ran.
This country has been run badly since the turn of the 20th century. Possibly earlier, but that's when the problem became profound, as the state ossified and expanded on the back of "responsibility" for the empire. It was made an unassailable feature during the two world wars, when the government got a true taste for a command economy, and everything since then has been a back and forth over just how much the state can actually interfere in the private affairs of its subjects. Just about everything wrong with the country can be explained by that, and by the traditional paternalism of the English ruling class, who see it as their god-ordained duty to "morally improve" the underclasses - interpreted through whatever ideological lens they happen to use at the time - which, oddly enough, requires a lot of meddling on how they go about their lives.

Even things as mundane as why it takes so long for anything to be built today comes down to this interference, which drives perverse incentives as companies try to both benefit from it and work around it. HS2 is a perfect example: A mega-contractor takes the job with a promised price. That mega-contractor sub-contracts to large contractors for areas of responsibility. Those large contractors sub-contract to sub-contractors who sub-contract again, and so it goes down to myriad tiny companies that are only brought on to take all the blame and go bankrupt when things inevitably go wrong. In the meantime, costs balloon as everyone tries to maintain profit and there are endless delays as all the involved parties expend more and more of their time just trying to stay on the same page. It's a regulatory avoidance strategy that came about as the result of the government effectively making it impossible to operate a large construction firm without breaking the law, and of course where there is avoidance, there will be facilitators, who profit from the wasted economic activity.

I can guarantee that this problem would still exist if we had a fully nationalised economy. The sub-contractors would be created by the office of structural enterprise, rather than hired by the contractor, and would exist for the same purpose, because the problem isn't economic. It's cultural.
 
i fucking despair. you sound like a boomer my nig
Kill yourself, then have your remains deported back home you fucking faggot.

Interesting timing given the recent talk about power, BBC has an article up about how our energy grid is about as useful as a cock-flavoured lollipop, and you have wind farms being paid to not produce electricity at the same time you're also paying elsewhere for gas powered stations to increase production: https://archive.is/VdtVK

We're not meant to have cheap energy, that's the broad strokes of it. Some of it is because of greed and money, the other is, we just don't know how to handle cheap, efficient, large-scale energy as a society, population or species. How could the common man be given Hydrogen cell capsules for £10 that will power his car for 1,000 miles, when that could be used as a grenade against the government and people in power?
Li-Ion batteries are on the very cusp of efficient energy storage and home-made IED's, which takes me nicely into my latest pet theory:

Girl, 9, and her father die after house fire

Another week, another fatal house fire. When will this pattern be noticed and a solution put in place to stop this happening? These are fires caused by a new device or way of living, in the same way that the introduction of chip-pans in the 90's let to the burning down of half of the council estates in England, and how The Crying Boy painting led to house fires in the 80's (IYKYK).

My guess is some flavour of chinesium battery from an E-scooter being left in the kitchen on charge overnight. Or some variant of Slittium-Ion battery.
 
Nigel vows to reopen Port Talbot Steelworks.

Based move, he's now won most of Wales over.
That's happening regardless, just not with blast furnaces. There's no decent ore left for domestic smelting.

Farage was part of the financial deregulation sell-out that helped fuck Britain over, why do you think he's doing anything other than fucking you over now?
 
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