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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

Ah but you see, you're forgetting one simple rule, "nothing ever happens". The simple reason why it all continues to work is because no one really cares that much.

People have for sure been lulled into a state of apathy. I said before that I found real cheap land abroad, really easy to buy; I could pay for it up front in cash and own it outright inside of a week. My brain still went 'yeah that'd be nice haha' and I forgot about it. I've gone ahead and purchased it now, just because I think the country is really turning to dogshit more and more; but I think a lot of people just shrug and move on.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Oh noes, you mean we are going to watch the public sector shut down and none of the lives of fully functioning adults will change one bit?

The Birmingham strike thread would suggest it may be a bit worse.

In more awful news the governments looking to set up stuff to preserve our cultural traditions. One of the nominees is already the Notting Hill Carnival which given the amount of crime this year is unsurprising, it's going to need to be protected by law as it continues to get worse.

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From Hogmanay, to cheese rolling or London’s vibrant Notting Hill Carnival, Britain's most treasured cultural events and traditions will soon be officially recognised and protected in a new heritage list.

The government will soon open submissions from the public to nominate their favourite customs that best reflect the nation, to be recorded in the Inventory Of Living Heritage in the UK.

The UK-wide inventory aims to keep track of the crafts, customs and celebrations that are valued across the country, including traditions like tweed weaving and highland dancing.

Heritage Minister Baroness Twycross said the UK is “rich with wonderful traditions”, including Gloucestershire’s cheese rolling, folk music and dancing and the heritage crafts such as tartan weaving and carving Welsh love spoons.

“I would encourage everyone to think about what traditions they value so that we can continue to celebrate them, tell our national story to the rest of the world and safeguard the traditions that make us who we are,” she said.

One of the traditions that could be recognised is the annual cheese rolling race, an event where competitors chase a wheel of cheese down a steep hill in Gloucestershire, that has been celebrated for centuries and thought to have its roots in a heathen festival to celebrate the return of spring.

Other events may include Hogmanay, the Scottish word for the last day of the year and is synonymous with celebration of the New Year, and London’s Notting Hill Carnival which is an annual Caribbean event that has been running for more than 50 years and has become one of the largest street parties in the world.

The Government will work with the devolved governments to create the inventory, considering submissions from communities across England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland who practise living heritage and from those who practise traditions brought to the UK by immigrant communities.

This comes after the UK signed the 2003 Unesco Convention on the Safeguarding of Intangible Culture Heritage, which requires member states to compile an inventory of living heritage practised by communities in each country.

Nominations will be considered under seven categories, including performing arts, crafts and social practices such as festivals and customs.

Sports and games will also be a category along with oral expressions, including poetry and storytelling, culinary practices, and nature, land and spirituality.

 

[teriyakiburns]

The Government will work with the devolved governments to create the inventory, considering submissions from communities across England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland who practise living heritage and from those who practise traditions brought to the UK by immigrant communities.

So what we're going to get is a list of foreign shit and a few token things from Scotland, Wales, and the south east.

Whenever stories like this pop up, I can't help but think about all the traditions we've lost, largely thanks to the deliberate practice of repudiation and mockery by "polite society". We've had it drummed into us that our culture is inferior, laughable, crude, and primitive. Morris for instance, along with everything tangential to it (Rushcarts and the like), is treated as twee and "quaint", and not worthy of respect. And racist, if blacking up was involved. The fact is, it's a remnant of the rituals practiced by our ancient ancestors, before combat or before a hunt. It shares continuity with similar cultural practices all across Europe, though it is uniquely English. Anything to do with the traditional marking of the seasons is gone, as well as anything that brought men and women together - or anything that kept them apart for their own sanity.

Any practice that united a small community has been turned into an object of derision or just quietly erased from our culture, leaving a few surface details and practices divorced from any coherent underlying structure. We don't even get Easter Gardens in churches any more. That's something I used to help make when I was a kid, but it just doesn't happen now.

 

[Otterly]

Absolutely not.

EVs have a niche and I think they’re great in that niche. City buses in mild climate countries, city and suburban runarounds. Where you’re in a closed off city environment with pedestrians the lowered vehicle fumes are noticeable.
But they’re not a universal panacea. Rural places need engines. Some use patterns need IC engines. Extreme climates of cold don’t do well with electric engines. Anything that needs serious power output or that moves on water needs an IC engine.
There are some biogas buses I’ve seen abroad - they have a bio reactor they collect all the food waste and ferment it or whatever and the gas powers the buses. Great circular use, reduces landfill and powers the buses properly.
I dont get (well I do it’s all weird net zero lockdown agendas) why we dont realise that different power works for different things. A city or suburban runaround make sense for someone with low mileage who has a place to plug it in. It makes no sense for someone doing hundreds of miles a day, or a ferry, or rural areas.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

EVs have a niche and I think they’re great in that niche. City buses in mild climate countries, city and suburban runarounds. Where you’re in a closed off city environment with pedestrians the lowered vehicle fumes are noticeable.

Weirdly the best places EVs work are the worst places for them, walking cities.

Of course a problem there is that in those models no-one has a drive so charging at home is not possible.

 

[FedPostalService]

The Birmingham strike thread would suggest it may be a bit worse.

It would be great if Labour, of all people, sacked all the binman and put out the rubbish collection out to tender to the private sector.

Whilst the odds of this are slip to none I am allowed to hope.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

I agree with the people who theorize the strike will last til June/July. At the moment, talks are going nowhere. The problem is things like this ebb and flow out and rot.

The British Steel talks are an absolute shit show as expected. Classic blame game ad nauseam.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

“I would encourage everyone to think about what traditions they value so that we can continue to celebrate them, tell our national story to the rest of the world and safeguard the traditions that make us who we are,” she said.

London’s Notting Hill Carnival which is an annual Caribbean event that has been running for more than 50 years and has become one of the largest street parties in the world.

Caribbean is now English tradition? A whole 50 years? I have socks older than that.

Nominations will be considered under seven categories, including

performing arts,

Which are racist

crafts

Like bushcraft which is cultural appropriation

and social practices such as festivals and customs.

Pride parades, Notting Hill?

All this sounds very English.

Sports and games will also be a category along with oral expressions,

Lily Phillips?

including poetry and storytelling,

Like shakespeare which is racist?

culinary practices,

Like chicken tikka masala? Very English

and nature,

Which is colonial white supremacy

land

Stolen from indigenous populations

and spirituality.

Which is a breeding ground for white racism

Yeah, these awards are definitely something we can be proud of been rooted in English traditionalism.

 

[Otterly]

It would be great if Labour, of all people, sacked all the binman and put out the rubbish collection out to tender to the private sector.

Whilst the odds of this are slip to none I am allowed to hope.

It’s not the binmen’s fault that their pay was about to be cut by a huge amount. It’s the retarded council. They should have seen this coming and made sure their pay scales were reflecting the actual work being done.

 

[FedPostalService]

It’s not the binmen’s fault that their pay was about to be cut by a huge amount. It’s the retarded council. They should have seen this coming and made sure their pay scales were reflecting the actual work being done.

They have HGV licences. They could earn a good amount of money with those HGV licences but that would involve hard work and being self employed. Instead they've opted of the ease of a council life, which is barely a step above being a NEET, whilst demanding the wages of the hard working HGV drivers.

Fuck all binmen.

 

[Overly Serious]

Labour governments and uncollected rubbish. Is there any more iconic pairing?

 

[teriyakiburns]

Yeah, these awards are definitely something we can be proud of been rooted in English traditionalism.

I'm banging an old drum at this point (old enough to be a tradition!), but I am certain this will be another step towards the eventual claim that native Britons aren't actually native at all.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

It’s not the binmen’s fault that their pay was about to be cut by a huge amount. It’s the retarded council. They should have seen this coming and made sure their pay scales were reflecting the actual work being done.

£8k a year they are looking at losing. With others losing £6k. That's a hell of a lot of money.

Fuck all binmen.

Who will pick up your discarded funcopop boxes and your wives' boyfriends' use johnnies?

Binmen, cleaners, and those seen on the lowest rungs of jobs are the foundation that stops our country looking and smelling like India. See, Birmingham.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

Yeah I saw the figure 8k and thought no wonder the fuckers are striking they deserve too. 8k a year in that area for a single person is rent, utilities, and internet combined. Birmingham, too, has a living cost equivalent to London. There is some clear money mishandling going on, and their accounts need to be viewed.

edit, oh look who blocked an investigation into their spending...

 

[Russian Bot #5361]

They have HGV licences. They could earn a good amount of money with those HGV licences but that would involve hard work and being self employed. Instead they've opted of the ease of a council life, which is barely a step above being a NEET, whilst demanding the wages of the hard working HGV drivers.

Fuck all binmen.

Binmen, refuse collectors, and street sweepers are the lubricant that keeps our society functioning and healthy. You ought to have some respect for those who do the work that many see as dirty and beneath them. I would argue that these jobs are more essential than 90% of the work being carried out in the modern economy.

While many make more than double what these men make in cushy air conditioned offices, they are out every day in all weather conditions ensuring that we can enjoy clean streets.

They ought to be heralded as heroes and in my eyes, paid more.

 

[FedPostalService]

Binmen, refuse collectors, and street sweepers are the lubricant that keeps our society functioning and healthy. You ought to have some respect for those who do the work that many see as dirty and beneath them. I would argue that these jobs are more essential than 90% of the work being carried out in the modern economy.

While many make more than double what these men make in cushy air conditioned offices, they are out every day in all weather conditions ensuring that we can enjoy clean streets.

They ought to be heralded as heroes and in my eyes, paid more.

They're all union mongs who are getting exactly for what they voted for. With some added rape gangs for good measure. Inshallah.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Yeah I saw the figure 8k and thought no wonder the fuckers are striking they deserve too. 8k a year in that area for a single person is rent, utilities, and internet combined. Birmingham, too, has a living cost equivalent to London. There is some clear money mishandling going on, and their accounts need to be viewed.

Counterpoint: they work short days and short weeks, and all have second jobs. Their average salary is about 22k, but pro rata they're on closer to an average of 30k a year, and with those second jobs they often bring in closer to 40k. They aren't wanting for money. I don't begrudge them any of this, but it remains a fact that even with the wage cut, they'll be compensated very well for their work.

The reason Birmingham is cutting their wages is because the council lost that equal pay dispute the other year. They're re-grading everyone to avoid suddenly having to give half the workforce a 9k p/a raise. Part of the dispute is because the bin men wanted an equivalent raise to match the parity raise being given to equal grade workers, when that parity raise was introduced in order to reduce the amount the bin workers wages would have to be cut.

 

[Mound Dweller]

Counterpoint: they work short days and short weeks, and all have second jobs. Their average salary is about 22k, but pro rata they're on closer to an average of 30k a year, and with those second jobs they often bring in closer to 40k. They aren't wanting for money. I don't begrudge them any of this, but it remains a fact that even with the wage cut, they'll be compensated very well for their work.

The reason Birmingham is cutting their wages is because the council lost that equal pay dispute the other year. They're re-grading everyone to avoid suddenly having to give half the workforce a 9k p/a raise. Part of the dispute is because the bin men wanted an equivalent raise to match the parity raise being given to equal grade workers, when that parity raise was introduced in order to reduce the amount the bin workers wages would have to be cut.

The arguments against the strikes and who is in the right/are they just being greedy etc is all very secondary IMO: the issue at play is a Union that actually does it fucking job and goes on strike and can hold the (local) gov over a barrel because The Workers (tm) have power, this is the sort of thing utterly alien to merimutts which is why we see them lol/lmaoing at the mere prospect of it in the Article thread.
Don't get me wrong; Unions can be shits and are glorified cartel guilds half the time but they fulfil an important channel of revolutionary action and all true Britons should be proud of this power we have, one of the few left.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

Here we go...focus on the bin men wanting to be paid a fair salary for shit work, so they can have an OK life, rather than the absolute cunts who make a fortune and send it overseas, out of the UK, and are enabled by a parasitic class in government.
Bin men should get every penny they are owed for their work.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

And looks like British Steel was nationalised. Now if they could only change the laws so a national security asset didn't need to worry about carbon/eco shit