UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

  • 🏰 The Fediverse is up. If you know, you know.
  • Want to keep track of this thread?
    Accounts can bookmark posts, watch threads for updates, and jump back to where you stopped reading.
    Create account
https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

View image on Twitter


spread happiness@p4leandp1nk
https://twitter.com/p4leandp1nk/status/1080767496569974785

#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs
2764.png


7
10:07 AM - Jan 3, 2019
See spread happiness's other Tweets
Twitter Ads info and privacy


Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

View image on Twitter


pg often@pgofton
https://twitter.com/pgofton/status/1080772793774624768

The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

42
10:28 AM - Jan 3, 2019
See pg often's other Tweets
Twitter Ads info and privacy


TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
I think an aspect that people are majorly missing regarding the hotels is the financial state of the Home Office. The Home Office is ending these expensive contracts purposefully so that the company has the full burden and fold, and essentially, now you have these abandoned places. Remember, Labour cannot build at the moment due to poor material costings and building firms laughing at them and calling them lunatics.

These people fucking despise the private sector with every fibre of their being, so making these companies fold is sport. It looks like they tried to force similar cheaper contracts with Travelodge and Premier Inn. Travelodge pretty much told them to fuck off and Premier seems to have done the same.

This is also telling as it shows they have run out of small/med hotels and they are resisting. There is a glimmer of hope amidst this horror. I do urge Kiwis to be careful because crime will skyrocket. It is crazy the speed this is happening though, this took months, which would usually take years.
 
The Home Office is ending these expensive contracts purposefully so that the company has the full burden and fold, and essentially, now you have these abandoned places.
And as a bonus one of the people evicted may torch the place. Making it even easier to justify levelling and rebuilding and as an extra victory they can claim the far right did it.
 
Kurds are usually pretty chill unless they have to interact with other Muslims
Can't say this has been my experience with them I'm afraid. To be fair on them they are a lot more secular than say Arabs, Afghans, or Pakistanis/Bengalis, but they are extremely clanish so while they don't really get involved with religious extremism they are very prone to engaging in organised street crime and just general niggerish behaviour. A lot of them have an ethnic superiority complex as well, which can make dealing with them a pain.

Granted if I had to, I'd take them over Afghans any day but they do cause their fair share of problems in their own right.
 
I think an aspect that people are majorly missing regarding the hotels is the financial state of the Home Office. The Home Office is ending these expensive contracts purposefully so that the company has the full burden and fold, and essentially, now you have these abandoned places. Remember, Labour cannot build at the moment due to poor material costings and building firms laughing at them and calling them lunatics.

These people fucking despise the private sector with every fibre of their being, so making these companies fold is sport. It looks like they tried to force similar cheaper contracts with Travelodge and Premier Inn. Travelodge pretty much told them to fuck off and Premier seems to have done the same.

This is also telling as it shows they have run out of small/med hotels and they are resisting. There is a glimmer of hope amidst this horror. I do urge Kiwis to be careful because crime will skyrocket. It is crazy the speed this is happening though, this took months, which would usually take years.
You're missing the wef element.
The tories enacted (and labour carried on) funding for private firms (serco) to buy housing for immigrants based on one immigrant per 200 indigenous in any location so we are all equally replaced.

So if you're not understanding the african element in your town recently, there you go.
 
Last year, the other half and I watched the Discovery documentary about Mogg's family. The first thing I said seeing him, I said he was a nonce. Mogg would win the by-election with no contest.

It is crazy, Labour has lost its majority by being thugs and nonces.
 
So, let's places odds now. Which prominent Labour MPs who screamed "believe all women" about, oh let's say Russel Brand, will not be making social media statements about Dan Norris as swiftly.

Meanwhile;
Counter terrorism expanding Guardian? Sounds like good news.
Plans for a new national police body to lead the fight against terrorism and serious organised crime are being drawn up, as UK police chiefs consider the biggest overhaul of policing since the 1960s.
Under the proposals, counter-terrorism policing units would gain independence from local forces and become part of a new force covering at least England and Wales, and sitting in a newly created national centre for policing.

Counter-terrorism policing (CTP) is currently headquartered with London’s Metropolitan police, with its head appointed by the Met commissioner.
The plans are being devised as part of preparations for a Home Office white paper heralding radical police changes, which is expected later this year.

The proposed changes come amid mounting concerns that the UK’s current system – in which 45 local forces sometimes cooperate on national issues – can no longer match societal changes in the nature of crime, which is increasingly national or international.
For counter-terrorism policing specifically, one hoped-for advantage is a boost in recruitment, which would give it a more stable workforce and improve its ability to fight violent extremism and state-sponsored espionage.
The proposals are being drawn up by a working group called the joint reform team, which includes the National Police Chief’s Council (NPCC), which represents police leaders across the UK. They sit alongside senior civil servants as well as His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary, the College of Policing and elected police and crime commissioners.
Several options are being examined but the plan to include terrorism and serious organised crime in a new national force would give Britain a law enforcement body potentially as wide reaching and powerful as the FBI in the US.
The Guardian understands the working group is “modelling” the plan, and that any changes would need government backing and new laws.
Other options for CTP being considered by the working group are for it to become a standalone independent force, rather than sitting within a national centre for policing, or leaving things as they are now.
The Met’s hosting of some of counter-terrorism’s core functions, such as its headquarters which sets policies and leadership, is a throwback to when the London force led on counter-terrorism across the UK.
The country is covered by a network of 11 counter-terrorism units, with officers and staff largely seconded or borrowed from other forces. It is led by the Met’s assistant commissioner for specialist operations, Matt Jukes. Both the Met commissioner, Sir Mark Rowley, and his predecessor, Dame Cressida Dick, came to the top job in policing after leading counter-terrorism.
There are several reasons supporters believe the change is necessary.
CTP is struggling to recruit and is about 900 people shy of a full roster of 9,000 officers and staff. Some are put off joining because it means the embattled and scandal-hit Met technically becomes their employer.
Some believe they will have to move to London, which is more expensive to live in than the rest of the country; and officers working for CTP are subject to recall to their home forces, which some argue disrupts the effort to thwart terrorist attacks.
Others are discouraged or even stopped from applying by the force that legally employs them amid a shortage of experienced detectives. One source claimed: “The network is cobbled together from forces like Frankenstein’s monster.”

It is argued that removing the counter-terrorism responsibilities from the Met could free up the London force’s leadership to concentrate on internal changes.
Scotland Yard was traditionally the home of efforts to thwart violent attacks by those motivated by a political or ideological cause. Its anti-terrorism branch spearheaded police efforts against the IRA and a network of counter-terrorism units across the country evolved as the threat from Islamist terrorism intensified.
The model may result in the centralisation of counter-terrorism, serious organised crime, equipment purchasing and efforts to improve police performance in protecting women and girls from violence.
Greater central control would be taken over rushing officers to riots and disorder, such as last summer’s violence.
A report in December by HM Inspectorate of Constabulary on the response to the disorder across England called for the creation of a national coordinator role with the powers to order police leaders to hand over riot-trained officers to be deployed around the country in the event of a national emergency caused by riots.
A second report is due and is expected to also be critical, with some in policing saying privately that local forces were too slow to allow their riot officers to be handed over to the national effort.
A spokesperson for the NPCC said: “The ambition for police reform is high. We want the establishment of the national centre for policing to be the start of changes to improvement to policing capabilities, but it is too early to say what any future design could be.”
Downsides for greater centralisation include local forces losing control over deciding what their needs are and the potential for greater central government interference.
Those who have led Britain’s counter-terrorism efforts say the model derives strength from being connected to local policing, with local officers who know their communities gleaning intelligence and feeding it back to specialist officers. They also say the counter-terrorism system works.
A Home Office source said: “We’re working with policing, which will focus on efficiencies, tech and the use of, and enhancing capabilities on local and national scales. We will always look at what works.”

Oh what's that? In your related news "muh far-right" should be treated as terrorism. Ah, I see. So the police are going to be cracking down on anyone daring to defy the government.
The worst of the far-right violence seen in England this weekend should be treated as terrorism, a prominent former police chief has said, amid warnings over a new wave of unrest targeting migration lawyers.

Police have made 378 arrests since the violence broke out last week, with rioters setting fire to a library, looting shops and storming hotels housing asylum seekers.


A far-right-led mob tried to set fire to the Holiday Inn Express in Rotherham on Sunday while people were inside. Some masked rioters hurled pieces of wood, bottles and chairs, and sprayed fire extinguishers at police officers, 12 of whom were injured.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ople-rioting-across-england-how-many-involved
Neil Basu, Britain’s former head of counter-terrorism, said he believed the attack should be treated as an act of terrorism as he condemned the rioters as “bullies and cowards”.

“Trying to set ablaze a building with people inside, whom you have made clear you detest, is an act of violence against people and property with a racial cause designed to intimidate a section of the public – be it Muslims or asylum seekers,” he said.

“Not only does it fit the definition of terrorism, it is terrorism. It’s nothing short of an attempt at a modern-day lynching and the people who did it should be facing life imprisonment, not a five-year sentence for violent disorder.”

Basu’s comments came as:

  • Australia, Nigeria, Malaysia and Indonesia issued travel alerts to their nationals living in or visiting the UK, warning them to stay away from demonstrations.
  • Amanda Pritchard, the chief executive of NHS England, warned the riots have made many of the health service’s multicultural workforce feel “afraid and unwelcome” and the Royal College of Nursing called on ministers to ensure that anyone who targets nurses “pays a very heavy price”.
  • Ministers announced plans to introduce more than 500 new prison places over the next month to help cope with an influx of accused rioters expected to be held on remand.
  • The prime minister’s spokesperson criticised comments by Elon Musk after the X owner posted that “civil war is inevitable” in response to a video showing riots in Liverpool.
  • MPs and 60 anti-racist and migrants’ rights organisations called for parliament to be recalled to address the violence and “to ensure that all people and communities of colour are protected”.
Keir Starmer has rejected the calls, while the Northern Ireland assembly will be recalled later this week to discuss violent scenes after several businesses were attacked at an anti-immigration protest in Belfast on Saturday.

The prime minister announced on Monday that a “standing army” of specialist police officers was being assembled to crack down on rioting as he called for the perpetrators to be named and shamed.
 
There's a few rumours flying around on X that the victim was a Kashmiri and that the killing was a result of ethnic tensions between Kashmiris and Kurds over access to a mosque. But again this is shit I'm getting from random anon's so take it as such.
If I ran things then simply take away the mosque.

Then nobody gets to smell farts in "honour" of skynonce
 
Yeah, I was aware that my post could come off as a little too optimistic, but despite the impression it might give I don't think good fortune will just fall onto our collective laps without some kind of action, and just because you have hope doesn't mean you should let it numb you to the actions of the government.
It doesn't seem to take into account the actions of outside agents as well, which can lead to an unfortunate oversight when, say, you and your fellow constituents "have finally had enough" and march en masse to your local town hall/governor's residence, only to find a scarecrow propped up behind a desk and a note that reads "Sorry I missed you, lads, but I'm attending an overseas conference for the foreseeable future. Ta!".

Obviously this example is entirely facetious, but you surely understand what my point.
 
Back
Top Bottom