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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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I'm not sure what you've been reading but there's no 'barriers' restricting movement in Bristol. They put in Low Traffic Neighbourhoods recently because retarded pakis, niggers and chavs love screaming down residential roads at 60mph to avoid the main roads but that's it.
For me, it's mostly YouTubers talking about it. A recent one was the council installing "bus gates" at 3am with 60 police and a drone acting as guards because residents keep protesting and interfering with construction. Of course, construction work at 3am woke up the residents, but they managed to get a bit of work done before there were enough numbers for the workers to retreat.
 
There's been plenty of white teenagers killing their exes or someone who's turned them down. I don't see how the race issue comes into it at all.
The ease of access to rough and/or violent porn and extreme misogyny (and please note that I said extreme) has been an issue amongst young teenagers for ages. We know that. It wasn't as much of an issue before the internet was so readily accessible, unless their dads were into some hardcore German porn or something. They wouldn't have had any frame of reference for it. IMO it's mostly a parenting fault for not being more on top about what their kids are watching online, but, kids are going to access that shit one way or another, eventually. It's down to the parents first, backed up by schools a bit to teach kids how to differentiate between bullshit and the real world, and its consequences.

It might not be... or it could be?

As an aside, I think the internet on young people has its swings and roundabouts. We can talk about the normalisation of certain degeneracy, upswing in trannies worldwide, proliferation of weirdos and brain rot, social contagion, etcetera. But it can also help the youth explore beyond what they're told by pre-approved sources in the news and the like, for better or worse...

DDG Footsoldier or Fuentes catboy, pick one.

We see the most annoying, extreme and downright disgusting at the forefront. But I assume most grow up relatively normal. Relatively. I would still restrict usage for my kids until a certain age and limit all porn exposure the best I can. I'm just saying, in my view, it's not the main underlying cause of violence among young people and I don't think it should be the go-to explanation for why a male committed a crime, as the government are currently in the process of trying to do.

The main issue with this topic and why race is brought up at all is that the government and media, or so it feels to some, are arguing that violent crime numbers amongst the youth is mostly a white issue despite it being a disproportionately non-white problem. Or they're doing as much as they can to imply it so certain groups don't feel targeted by the government's actions.
  • in the 14 years to March 2019, the number of young people in youth custody went down in every ethnic group
  • in the year ending March 2019, 27.8% of people in youth custody were Black – more than double the percentage in the year ending March 2006 (12.5%)
  • White people made up around half (50.6%) of young people in custody in the year ending March 2019, compared with 71.7% in the year ending March 2006
  • in the year ending March 2019, more young people were in custody for violence against the person than any other type of offence
So not only does it appear white youth crime is going down, it's inclining up for others, and this contradicts a possible government objective I'll touch on at the end. Women's crime rate has been trending downward for decades in-line with younger whites and the immigrants don't pick up the slack, so there's a point on the scoreboard I suppose for the fairer sex.

The Conservatives felt more generalised (it was a male youth problem), but Labour seem more overt, even if it's just a comedy of errors thanks to incompetence. They're not discussing internet usage in young children (because young internet users would cover everybody born after X-year but before Y-year I.E. old enough vote) or placing the blame on parents (also voters), or even porn (Conservatives tried, their solution was banning face sitting in porn and trying to implement porn IDs essentially, both doing nothing but earning ridicule), they're explicitly targeting people like Andrew Tate since he's an easy scapegoat for an issue more complex than they're willing to handle.

Keep in mind they're doing this whilst:

1. Citing a white murderer (the crossbow killer had 10 Tate videos in his Youtube watch history) as an example of what online influences can do to a man, when a far more horrific example of youth violence against young girls (Southport killer) is ignored/forgotten.
Crossbow killer: 26, ex-girlfriend being a common motive, but made the face of extremist misogyny by both press and government.
Southport stabber: 17, no motive known, a random act of horrific violence and assigned no labels by media or the government.

2. Having stricter sentencing guidelines for whites whilst being a lot more lenient on non-whites (I think this will get overturned if I recall correctly, or put on pause at least until they can sneakily implement it later); this also been an objective of David Lammy since 2017, and Mahmood (secretary of Justice) being a non-white, doesn't make it too hard to accept it was done in favour of their 'group'.

3. Possibly basing policy and government action on a fictious TV show where they possibly race swapped the killer, if they did indeed base it on a true story, but the water's already been muddied on that; the fact people can point to the show's plot — a youth violently murdering a girl — happening in real life but with a black youth is just a tragically funny timing.

If it didn't feel so targeted, I think people would be slightly (emphasis on slight) less pissed off what the government's solutions are, even if resentment would still ultimately be present since their 'fix' involves punishing everybody and does fuck all at the end of the day.

The most charity I can give the 'big-G' Government, is that they're stuck between trying to fix 'unfair' sentencing and lower the disproportionately high black/minority incarceration rate (which eased sentencing guidelines would enable) whilst also also trying to tackle the issue of youth crime (which the prior guidelines would harm, since fewer of them would get punished and locked away, and non-white youths are more likely to reoffend).
The reoffending rate of adults was highest for those aged 18-20 for ethnic minorities (excluding white minorities).The reoffending rate for offenders from the black, Asian, and other ethnic groups was highest for those aged 18-20. For offenders from the white ethnic group, those aged 35-39 presented the highest reoffending rate.

Assuming they're retarded and don't see the contradiction in what they're doing, they'll assume banning x-number of websites will lower the overall number of criminals due to a lack exposure to certain materials, whilst arresting more whites will make things appear more 'fair' when looking at the stats (which I'm convinced only became a 'problem' to fix after importing BLM sentiments from America) but all it'll do is result in whites getting stricter sentences, punishing everyone through restricting certain websites (assuming they do anything at all on that), and letting young minority criminals off to reoffend which they're already more likely to do.

The 'education' sentiment the government are going for (that you linked to) isn't going to amount to much. I think the main thing not addressed in either article you linked is the possibility of indifference or apathy to the material, especially from boys, but that they fellate the show so much that it might be inconceivable people come away not giving a shit.

Anecdote, feel free to ignore: I remember in high school watching Goodnight Mister Tom, a movie about an evacuee going to the countryside during WW2, and bursting out into laughter at one point. The evacuee is told his friend might've died after returning home to visit family after an air raid on London, and he's walking back to where he's staying all sad and shit. At the gate is someone with his friend's bike, ringing the bell, with a ribbon attached to the handles. It was just so funny. They didn't even give him time to mourn at all, the kid might not actually be dead — Zero situational awareness. Got me good.

There's talk of the 'emotional distress' and whatnot, but it feels less a concern for boys than it does girls, at least in my view. People are forgetting that with all this messaging, you're basically telling younger girls to be afraid of the boys they share a classroom with, all based on fiction and vague ideas. Though I'd claim the to have the same 'fear' too for my kids if it meant saving them from watching four hours of utter shite. It's the 'loner quiet kid with his backpack in the corner' repackaged for a new, younger female audience otherwise, and it doesn't help the situation.

If Incels/Manosphere/MGTOW are a result of men feeling like women ignore them, don't give them 'what they're owned', or are just generally starved of female contact so they need to cope by hating/devaluing women, wouldn't a series being showed to young girls across the entire nation that might result in them being more afraid of the opposite sex from a young age cause a larger rift? They intend the opposite, obviously, by encouraging boys to not do what the killer in Adolescence did, but that's more to educated boys, it doesn't do shit to help girls feel truly secure from their male classmates and might just make them feel less so. What are they doing? I'm not saying girls will actually watch this shit and be traumatised or affected but it still demonstrates a complete lack of foresight.

Another bizarre contradiction about showing this in Highschools is that, according to the stats, it's also being indirectly targeted at non-whites anyway, since the white youths most likely to offend are uneducated and poor whilst non-whites did crime in spite of education. Based Labour? Anyone? Showing it to highschoolers feels extra redundant when you know it's the uneducated anyway.
The educational attainment of young people who were cautioned or sentenced for an offence was lowest for the white ethnic group, across all three measures.Of young people from the white ethnic group matched to a KS4 attainment record in academic years 2013/14 and 2014/15, 12% achieved 5 or more GCSEs (or equivalents) graded A* to C, compared to other ethnic groups at 24%.


TLDR: Left-wing meme for a Left-wing recipient. There might not be a racial component to youth crime, but the government and media make it feel like a white problem despite evidence to the contrary (half of all youth criminals are non-white, increasing, whilst white youths have gone from 70% to 50% in 13 years according to data). It's also easy to assume an anti-white slant to it all when to consider: Mahmood secretary of justice, absence of Southport from narrative, TV show possibly race swapped the killer. The internet (be it porn or Tate) feels like the easy answer to male violence, and so of course the government took it. Trying to 'fix' disproportionate incarceration and unfair sentencing by making it easier for non-whites to get off but making it easier to incarcerate whites, but simultaneously trying to fix youth crime & young male violence, feels like a contradiction of objectives. Showing the 'young boy becomes a killer because of the internet' show, and playing it off as serious business might have no effect, indifference/acknowledgement at best, or at worst, make young girls more afraid to be around the opposite sex and doing nothing for boys.

It's never been the same since they were bullied into removing most of the salt, but I do enjoy the onion and garlic one if I can't be bothered making my own sauce.
They have these packets you can microwave that are just a sauce you pour over some pasta. Decent snack if you got nowt in and light on calories. Cousin gave me a few a while back. Had a packet it on a whim a week after with some penne for something different at lunch. Surprised at how solid they were. I tend to favour just the plain sauce but the basil or chili were decent as well. But I also like Rustler burgers so my opinion on all food-related subjects might be considered null and void...

My sausage roll experience growing up was mostly just Pound Bakery too, Greggs was an actual luxury.

Do more home cooking nowadays, bit wary about the complex stuff in case I fuck it up but simple shit I'm comfortable doing. Dolmio was used for my spag bol when I was younger so I guess I'm just attached to the brand. Might try making my own sauce next week and using slightly more expensive mince meat to see if I can make something better. You have a recipe you go by or is it just something you eyeball?
 
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All this talk about Andrew Tate, but didn't he convert to Islam a few years ago? Seems like the kind of thing you don't just take back.
Also seems like the kind of thing that needs pointing out to everyone who mentions how "toxic" and misogynistic he is, every single time.
Needs to be really pushed hard imo, Tate - misogynist- Muslim. Helpful context, completely overlooked, but brings the story full circle.
In fact, isn't one of his main misogynistic quotes:
"Islam is right about women"?
 
2. Having stricter sentencing guidelines for whites whilst being a lot more lenient on non-whites (I think this will get overturned if I recall correctly, or put on pause at least until they can sneakily implement it later); this also been an objective of David Lammy since 2017, and Mahmood (secretary of Justice) being a non-white, doesn't make it too hard to accept it was done in favour of their 'group'.
Don't focus on the white side of it, remember Shabana Mahmood has a stated intent of two-tier justice for women, hoping to end their incarceration for crimes. While she might claim to be opposed to two-tier sentencing her own words prove that a lie. Whether or not she also supports it in the case of ethnicity is harder to say but at the core these sentencing guidelines applied to everyone who wasn't a white, cisgender, neurotypical, heterosexual male over...25 I think? So she is completely fine with 1/6 of those caveats resulting in different sentencing guidelines (male) making it hard to believe her when she claims a blanket opposition to two-tier justice.
 
the council installing "bus gates" at 3am with 60 police and a drone acting as guards because residents keep protesting and interfering with construction
Yeah because anytime they tried to complete the work, a load of unemployed muslims would go out and protest it. You can't allow a small group of muslims to dictate what does and doesn't happen in an area. They voted for the green party so they get green party policies. It's the same anywhere they install these things.
 
Fucking hell, you absolute deviant. I haven't had a Rustlers in 20 years, but they were shite back then. I'm sure they haven't improved since.
Rustlers are great because they give you the experience of being cheap slop food, without actually being food.
Haute cuisine.
Don't focus on the white side of it, remember Shabana Mahmood has a stated intent of two-tier justice for women, hoping to end their incarceration for crimes. While she might claim to be opposed to two-tier sentencing her own words prove that a lie. Whether or not she also supports it in the case of ethnicity is harder to say but at the core these sentencing guidelines applied to everyone who wasn't a white, cisgender, neurotypical, heterosexual male over...25 I think? So she is completely fine with 1/6 of those caveats resulting in different sentencing guidelines (male) making it hard to believe her when she claims a blanket opposition to two-tier justice.
You could posit she's doing it for both women and non-whites, as she's in both groups? But yeah I get you. Thanks for the link I wasn't aware of that article. I mostly used her name as an example of how the government's actions are helping foster the idea of an anti-white/anti-British narrative, even if it's not their true intention.

If the government's current modus operandi is all for "protecting women" then it's the easiest way for them to deflect criticism and engage as little as possible with opposing arguments, although I admit that the attempt to defend the guidelines has been flaccid. They caved almost immediately, and unless new ones are proposed by Tuesday, there won't be any discussion on it until the 22nd since Parliament won't reconvene until then.
 
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You have a recipe you go by or is it just something you eyeball
I just followed one I found online at first, it also depends if you want to do a quick sauce or make it properly which means letting it simmer for a few hours. Only only really go to the effort now for either special occasions or if I'm doing a meal prep week. Which is what my point about Dolmio being pretty good for the effort required was.
 
There's been plenty of white teenagers killing their exes or someone who's turned them down. I don't see how the race issue comes into it at all.
Yeah it's time honoured phenomena that just happens sometimes for whatever reason this is something everybody understands, we've had films and TV shows and even storylines on soap operas about this very topic many times in the past because like or not femicide is just a trope.
What's not normal is the context, all those recent horrible terrible crimes against women? Big scary black dudes.
The huwhyties doing it are still around of course (wayne couzens and his ilk, the crossbow bag-shitter) but the second schizo darkies start being a regular occurrence it becomes a problem that actually has to be dealt with, this is because if "psycho wog" ever becomes a mainstream meme like durka durka bus bomber did it'll be yet another fracture in Our Multicultural Society. Because our government hates us and doesn't actually give a toss about our well being.
 
Troon appears in court for attempting to make a gun. Whats worst is he worked for the police in a cosplay PC role

Of course the BBC has to call him a woman

Ex-police worker faces trial over 3D-printed gun​


Zoe Watts will go on trial at Lincoln Crown Court in June

A former Lincolnshire Police worker accused of attempting to manufacture a 3D-printed sub-machine gun is due to stand trial in June.
Zoe Watts, who had worked as a police community support officer for more than eight years, was arrested by armed officers at her home in Lincoln on 11 December.
The 38-year-old, of St Helen's Avenue, faces a single charge of attempting to manufacture a prohibited firearm between 1 January 2024 and 11 December 2024.
At Lincoln Crown Court, barrister Stuart Lody, who is defending Ms Watts, indicated she would be pleading not guilty to the charge.
A three-day trial is set to begin on 10 June.
Ms Watts, who appeared in court via a videolink from HMP Peterborough, has been remanded into custody.
She is due to appear at the same court for a pre-trial hearing on 15 May.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy8q9q819v7o

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Exactly the same in another area.
Roadworks everywhere, in a new tax year, just before council elections..
I personally think there should be council elections every year. In April just after everyone gets their council tax bills for a year.

If the Roman's could elect two consuls every year to govern the then I can't understand why we can't elect a bunch of jumped up self-important retards every year.
All this talk about Andrew Tate, but didn't he convert to Islam a few years ago? Seems like the kind of thing you don't just take back.
Also seems like the kind of thing that needs pointing out to everyone who mentions how "toxic" and misogynistic he is, every single time.
Needs to be really pushed hard imo, Tate - misogynist- Muslim. Helpful context, completely overlooked, but brings the story full circle.
In fact, isn't one of his main misogynistic quotes:
"Islam is right about women"?
Adolescence is nothing but naked Islamophobia and Netflix should be ashamed.
 
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I had to do some "refresher training" at work and it was AI generated from start to finish with robot voice talking barely legible nonsense, freaky feethands on the illustrations, and a completely illogical scenario (apparently bananas are a non food related product now). This is a multibillion international megacorp and this crap somehow filtered through their HR I think we're reaching peak chatbot bubble.
The linked YT channel has been dead for 2 years but there's some interdastingly titled vids on there
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General fixation on "survival" stuff this nutter is a total loony, being an ex-PCSO implies they noticed it in time before he actually got any proper power but this type of maniac is the exact type you see all over in various NGOs.
 
So we might have a pending x of love event;


The BBC have edited it since but a Kurd slit a 16 year olds throat. On top of that, the Red Cross has said that migrant hotels;


That and heir Starmer for some retarded reason has decided to start a trade war with the USA even though he got off scot free. He literally cucked himself. It's not looking good for our Main Character.
 
soul of wit.
“Suit the action to the word, the word to the action.”
So we might have a pending x of love event;


The BBC have edited it since but a Kurd slit a 16 year olds throat. On top of that, the Red Cross has said that migrant hotels;


That and heir Starmer for some retarded reason has decided to start a trade war with the USA even though he got off scot free. He literally cucked himself. It's not looking good for our Main Character.
Crazy that the best case scenario for something so horrific is that it was random or gang-related.

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Edit: I have just as much reason as anyone else to shit on Starmer but I haven't seen anything implying a trade war.
Trump says Starmer is happy with the tariffs (insofar they're not bad as they could be)
Starmer says that "Trade war should not be UK's first response to tariffs" two days ago.
I also can't find a website that's not aids but Starmer was in two calls today with Australia and Italy saying that a trade war would be a bad idea.
I've seen retards online saying he should initiate one. The 'feelings' over 'common sense' types. Starmer's retarded, but I think his subservience to America is stronger than his idiocy, for now.
 
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So we might have a pending x of love event;


The BBC have edited it since but a Kurd slit a 16 year olds throat. On top of that, the Red Cross has said that migrant hotels;

What do we always do, especially with the BBC who are renowned for editing without admitting they did it?


 
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