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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Overly Serious said:
There was a massive wave of Jewish proselytisation around 900AD-1100AD where a lot of modern "Jews" come from, i.e. converts. A modern Ashkenazi jew is largely Western European. Jesus predates that by a thousand years. Lord knows what Jesus looked like (if you'll pardon the figure of speech in this context) but probably sort of Palestinian; who are usually quite light-skinned.
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Jesus was from Yorkshire, you filthy heretic.
 
teriyakiburns said:
Have they ever won a case (in a way that didn't immediately backfire)?
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Near as I can tell they don't bring many cases themselves but they enable some awful behaviour. As demonstrated here by them being given favourable BBC coverage and Ofcom letting them collate complaints with no doubt little to no real verification.

They're one more slimy little organisation that people cite as proof of something despite them being utterly unreliable and biased beyond compare.
 
I half remember the Good Law Project from my days with the Skeptic movement. Is weirdo David Allen Greene involved with them or am I thinking of an organisation with a similar name?

EDIT ah, it the kimono wearing fox torturer. I must be thinking of a different group.


I hope you all like strikes. Lots of strikes. Wil be fun watching the BBC carrying water for the government on this one.

If you are worried you’ll be affected by this all I can say is get a real job.
 
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FedPostalService said:

I hope you all like strikes. Lots of strikes. Wil be fun watching the BBC carrying water for the government on this one.

If you are worried you’ll be affected by this all I can say is get a real job.
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She should start with the Cabinet Office. According to the internet, it has over 10,200 staff to support the Prime Minister and the Cabinet.

Over 10,200? Overstaffed.
 
FedPostalService said:

I hope you all like strikes. Lots of strikes. Wil be fun watching the BBC carrying water for the government on this one.

If you are worried you’ll be affected by this all I can say is get a real job.
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While public service cuts don't have to be a bad thing, just be mindful that often they make these cuts and bring in "contractors" to do the same work at a higher pay as a jobs-for-mates thing.
The conservative government did that here in Australia. These look like immediate "cost savings" until someone peeks at the books and sees what is actually being paid out.
It can also include offshoring of jobs, so more Pajeets handling data I guess. Maybe it'll be different because Labour is in charge of doing it there but I remain skeptical.

I think it's also important to track what they're keeping if they're cutting jobs, they should be grilled regularly about any dindu expenses including NGO funding or contracts and any "celebrate diversity shit".

If the belt has to be tightened so that 10,000 people are out of work then the government doesn't have the money to fund drag queen/tranny nonsense or gibs for Islamic/Hindu shit.
 
Guntsress Of Diabeteeze said:
Will there ever be any positivity in this thread? Can we make a trend of having only positive news? For at least, one day? Or is that far-fetched?
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I nearly started a thread in the self sufficiency board. We're living in a low trust society now. How do we prepare for that?

Social media is full of reports of doctors and engineers filming kids, attempting to abduct kids, following women, trying doors. Cuts to public services mean more burglaries, thefts, violent shop lifters, less help for the mentally ill, less police.

When I was a nipper and this was all fields we left doors open, left bikes in the street and no one culturally enhanced our children or stole our shit.

So we have cctv outside the house. We have fences. We have gravel at the entrance to our gardens. We made sure to get to know our neighbours, keep an eye out for each other. We involve ourselves in school and community events. We volunteer at two of the local youth groups.

What other positive things can we do?

My local councillors, MP and MSP don't want to hear how upset everyone is at whole blocks of flats being done up for immigrants, how our small schools are getting crowded, how the men in the empty barber shops sit on stools in the street and leer, how the paki shops sell vapes to kids.

We need to look after each other. Look out for each other.

Give me hats and rainbows.
 
I would like to offer my apologies to @Bog-standard Poster for critiquing him buying a house in slavland. Because fuck me some of those deals are good. I have found one with a vineyard attached in Bulgaria, four bedrooms, a bathroom, 45 minutes drive from Varna; 10 from the local village. 27K. I can just afford that outright.

I get it.
 
Morethanabitfoolish said:
Don't forget their push for more AI to do these jobs.
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AI won’t do this job. Avoiding power levelling but it’s something that I’m involved with implementing and a few friends are in other sectors.

It’s only a threat to listicle writing journalists and lazy graphic designers who fancy themselves as artists.

It’s impressive at first but you need to check everything it does as it can go rogue.

Maybe a productivity booster but 100% not replacing people for any meaningful job.

And I say this as someone who wants my entire team to be made redundant if at all possible. If I could replace them now I would but we’re decades from that.

The only people who are impressed by it don’t know about computers or are journo scum who are frightened for their jobs. Learn to code, journos.
Otterly said:
It really is 1979 again.
But we won’t even get another 1980s afterwards…
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The Tories need a new leader now and to grow a set of balls because it’s going to be a lot of hard thankless work cleaning up the last thirty years of nonsense and waste.
 
FedPostalService said:
The only people who are impressed by it don’t know about computers or are journo scum who are frightened for their jobs. Learn to code, journos.
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I think you're being a tad optimistic about the intelligence of the average person in charge of making hiring decisions or directing company/public policy.

While it doesn't take a super genius to figure out the flaws with AI, most managers think it's the magic bullet to replace workers.

They're too stupid to know it's not there yet and you still require human intervention at multiple steps to ensure it works properly for most tasks.
 
FedPostalService said:
The Tories need a new leader now and to grow a set of balls because it’s going to be a lot of hard thankless work cleaning up the last thirty years of nonsense and waste.
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They were in charge for over a decade before this. It’s their fault too. I loathe labour with the heat of a thousand suns but a lot of this happened on a Tory watch. ALL our political class is morally bankrupt and it has destroyed our country. We need people in charge who have the balls to clean things up, and I don’t really see anyone who is capable.
 
Otterly said:
They were in charge for over a decade before this. It’s their fault too. I loathe labour with the heat of a thousand suns but a lot of this happened on a Tory watch. ALL our political class is morally bankrupt and it has destroyed our country. We need people in charge who have the balls to clean things up, and I don’t really see anyone who is capable.
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They are the only party that might be able to sort themselves out after a bloodbath.

Labour will go full commie when they hit there inevitable civil war.

Farrage is a neo-liberal clown shoe who will just scoop up protest votes.

The Libdems are just the world’s ugliest swingers party.

Homeland and AP are just Special Branch honeypots.

We can slag off the Tories as much as we like but they are the lesser of all the evils if they stop their impossible quest of wanting wanting Guardian readers to like them.
 
FedPostalService said:
They are the only party that might be able to sort themselves out after a bloodbath.

Labour will go full commie when they hit there inevitable civil war.

Farrage is a neo-liberal clown shoe who will just scoop up protest votes.

The Libdems are just the world’s ugliest swingers party.

Homeland and AP are just Special Branch honeypots.

We can slag off the Tories as much as we like but they are the lesser of all the evils if they stop their impossible quest of wanting wanting Guardian readers to like them.
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I don't care if the Tories would be ever able to reorganise and sort themselves out. They are fully responsible for the situation we are in now and back then and I refuse to ever vote for them nor will I ever trust them.
 
Police have released images of 22 men they want to trace after a large-scale fight in Sheffield.
The disorder took place on Woodbourn Road on 25 May last year, South Yorkshire Police said.
A force spokesperson said officers believed it involved two groups from the Eritrean community, with one faction supportive of Eritrean independence and the other in opposition.
Eighteen people have so far been charged with offences including violent disorder, possession of an offensive weapon and wounding, they added.
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Oooof. I used to teach a lot of the Eritrean community in that neck of the woods. The women are amazing - long-suffering and the patience of saints. You can see why. This doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. There’s a large Eritrean community in Sheffield and things can get very tense at times.

See also Iraqis from actual Iraq, and Iraqis from the Kurdish regions. Some of the Chinese aren’t exactly friendly either.
 
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