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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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I found the same website to show Westminster as the 3rd safest place in England and Wales for violent and sexual offences in 2024.
I will just post a direct link to the reporting figures I am going off of
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I will not pretend to be an expert in any of this, I'm just a numbers person and lean very heavily on statistics, and obviously an incident in a low crime, highly homogenously English area is much more anomalous and likely to be staged, where in a high crime, ethnically diverse area it is more likely to be an organic attack.

I am completely open to the idea that I am merely reading the data wrong or misinterpreting it. I encourage other Kiwis here to please sanity check me.
 
He spent six months in England, didn’t speak the language, then buggered off to the Middle East.

Maybe these “new Londoners” should follow his example?
He spent his childhood in England. A lot of shit gets talked about Richard I, usually as part of the plan to demoralise the English and all of their historic figures. Back in those days you wanted your king abroad defending territory (mostly in France), rather than sitting in London being a total shit (like King John).
 
Would you care to join diverse social gatherings and volunteer in your wider community?
>> "Free, free Palestine!"
Would you join the Army, Navy or Royal Air Force?
>> "Globalize the Intifada".
Will you help support local heritage and cultural sites?
>>"From the river to the sea..." *Spraypaints 'Free Palestine' on Cenotaph*
Will you contribute your fair share of taxes, learn the language, and not have more children than you can reasonably support?
>> فلسطين ستكون حرة

Gee, it's almost as if the people who both live and define themselves entirely along religious/sectarian lines aren't that good at, and don't much care about, integrating into a society.
 
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Would you care to join diverse social gatherings and volunteer in your wider community?
>> "Free, free Palestine!"
Would you join the Army, Navy or Royal Air Force?
>> "Globalize the Intifada".
Will you help support local heritage and cultural sites?
>>"From the river to the sea..." *Spraypaints 'Free Palestine' on Cenotaph*
Will you contribute your fair share of taxes, learn the language, and not have more children than you can reasonably support?
>> "فلسطين ستكون حرة!".

Gee, it's almost as if the people who both live and define themselves entirely along religious/sectarian lines aren't that good at, and don't much care about, integrating into a society.
It still astounds me as we are heading towaard an inevitable armed conflict in Europe that Starmer chooses to alienate the proles, the people he needs to man the army, to protect groups of people who will refuse to fight for the country anyway?
 
I will just post a direct link to the reporting figures I am going off of
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I will not pretend to be an expert in any of this, I'm just a numbers person and lean very heavily on statistics, and obviously an incident in a low crime, highly homogenously English area is much more anomalous and likely to be staged, where in a high crime, ethnically diverse area it is more likely to be an organic attack.

I am completely open to the idea that I am merely reading the data wrong or misinterpreting it. I encourage other Kiwis here to please sanity check me.
I thought that stats seemed high, so it's good to have confirmation of that.
You're not reading the data wrong at all, it's just completely different in different sections of the site for the same area!
I'm struggling to understand it, so I'm going to accept yours as correct because your section has raw data whereas the section I found did not.

As for the attack being planned...this is very convenient timing for the government, and I don't believe in coincidences.
I'm not 100% there, but if it transpires that the attacker "had links to the far right" then that will push me the rest of the way.
 
It still astounds me as we are heading towaard an inevitable armed conflict in Europe that Starmer chooses to alienate the proles, the people he needs to man the army, to protect groups of people who will refuse to fight for the country anyway?
Research how to be disqualified from compulsory service (indigenous only) now.
 
I thought that stats seemed high, so it's good to have confirmation of that.
You're not reading the data wrong at all, it's just completely different in different sections of the site for the same area!
I'm struggling to understand it, so I'm going to accept yours as correct because your section has raw data whereas the section I found did not.

As for the attack being planned...this is very convenient timing for the government, and I don't believe in coincidences.
I'm not 100% there, but if it transpires that the attacker "had links to the far right" then that will push me the rest of the way.
Okay so I agree it seemed high, and it is, as far as victimization rate. I miscalculated because I used the resident population and neglected to count the commuter population. Normally this wouldn't matter, because we would normally look at city scale, but on a borough scale the daytime population can fluctuate a lot. Including the commuter population, Westminster's daytime population jumps to 680,488. Using the same reported "Violent and Sexual Offences" number of 12,723, we get a much more reasonable, if still high, number of 53.5
 
He's royalty. He's doing nothing and sucking up tax dollars.

I want to be clear, royalty claims Divine Right. This is still true of the UK monarchy, even though they never mention it and get very touchy when it is brought up. By transitive property, Charles literally believes he was given the authority to vacuum up taxes by God Himself.

I would not rely on the monarch.
>tax dollars
We really should ban Yanks from this thread.

Like all toffs, the King is independently wealthy. In return for surrendering his income from the Crown Estates, he gets a much smaller income from the Government. There's many things to criticize Charles for, but being a sponger on the Treasury is not one of them.
 
>tax dollars
We really should ban Yanks from this thread.

Like all toffs, the King is independently wealthy. In return for surrendering his income from the Crown Estates, he gets a much smaller income from the Government. There's many things to criticize Charles for, but being a sponger on the Treasury is not one of them.
The British monarchy is funded primarily by the Sovereign Grant, which is set at a percentage of the revenue of the Crown Estate, which, despite its name, is government holdings that is completely administratively separate of the monarch. To give you an idea of the goofy shit the "Crown Estate" consists of, it includes the entire seabed and continental shelf claims of the United Kingdom, which would include all of the UK's offshore drilling.

I know I'm in a British thread, so I won't say anything beyond this: to insinuate that the monarchy isn't a tax leech because his family has been given the right by the Lord our God to administer the sea floor and is therefore independently wealthy, is absurd.

Additionally, as for you calling for me to be banned from the thread, I kindly implore you to view my other posts here. I have done nothing but attempt to genuinely contribute to the conversation and have routinely asked for input from British users of the site.
 
Leicester Square is in Westminster,
Leicester Square is just next to Piccadilly Circus, which is like new York's Times Square. Whilst I don't doubt there are rapes that took place there, I think is likely more lower level crimes and brawls due to the high traffic of tourists.

neglected to count the commuter population
It's not even "commuters" meaning workers, it's tourists. Those areas of London are so crowded during tourist-hours that you have to "excuse me" your way through to get to your destination.
 
To give you an idea of the goofy shit the "Crown Estate" consists of, it includes the entire seabed and continental shelf claims of the United Kingdom, which would include all of the UK's offshore drilling.
Yeah, but it's no more ridiculous than the Duke of Norfolk owning half of Sussex, or the Duke of Westminster owning most of central London. Toffs gonna toff.

Additionally, as for you calling for me to be banned from the thread, I kindly implore you to view my other posts here. I have done nothing but attempt to genuinely contribute to the conversation and have routinely asked for input from British users of the site.
Come on though, "tax dollars". When he's done that, he can write his Congressman to use his second amendment rights to open a 401k.
 
The shit is the best looking bit of her. Those tits look like a kinder egg capsule they have such bad scarring from the boob jobs.
 
Leicester Square is just next to Piccadilly Circus, which is like new York's Times Square.
Good to know.
It's not even "commuters" meaning workers, it's tourists. Those areas of London are so crowded during tourist-hours that you have to "excuse me" your way through to get to your destination.
This is genuinely good information. The information I posted is simply residents + jobs, which gives me an estimate of how many people we can expect to live and work there on a given day. I didn't know it was a tourist hotspot, and, frankly, I'm not sure I would be able to even ballpark something like that. Obviously if you were to include something like a quarter million tourists and customers that would further dilute crime statistics. As I've also stated, I'm not sure how crime reporting statistics differ in the UK as far as methodology.
 
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