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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Overly Serious]

At the most technical level saying he wasn't Welsh is false communication as according to the law and state he is indeed Welsh. To the state if you were born in Wales you are Welsh even if you left the country a week after your birth and never returned.

Well it's citizenship of Wales, sure. How Welsh he actually is would depend on how naturalised he was. Like where does he sit on the following scale:

1. Has a red dragon penant somewhere in his bedroom.
2. Plays Rugby
3. Sings when provoked
4. Sings unprovoked.
5. Can pronounce "Llanfairpwllgwyngyll"
6. Enjoys Laverbread
7. Says "there's posh" unironically.

 

[Eekum Bokum]

Well it's citizenship of Wales, sure. How Welsh he actually is would depend on how naturalised he was. Like where does he sit on the following scale:

1. Has a red dragon penant somewhere in his bedroom.
2. Plays Rugby
3. Sings when provoked
4. Sings unprovoked.
5. Can pronounce "Llanfairpwllgwyngyll"
6. Enjoys Laverbread
7. Says "there's posh" unironically.

Dood he lived in Cardiff of course he didn't do any of that.

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

Well it's citizenship of Wales, sure. How Welsh he actually is would depend on how naturalised he was. Like where does he sit on the following scale:

1. Has a red dragon penant somewhere in his bedroom.
2. Plays Rugby
3. Sings when provoked
4. Sings unprovoked.
5. Can pronounce "Llanfairpwllgwyngyll"
6. Enjoys Laverbread
7. Says "there's posh" unironically.

Put him in the same room as a sheep, and see what happens.

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

At the most technical level saying he wasn't Welsh is false communication as according to the law and state he is indeed Welsh. To the state if you were born in Wales you are Welsh even if you left the country a week after your birth and never returned.

Well it's citizenship of Wales, sure. How Welsh he actually is would depend on how naturalised he was. Like where does he sit on the following scale:

1. Has a red dragon penant somewhere in his bedroom.
2. Plays Rugby
3. Sings when provoked
4. Sings unprovoked.
5. Can pronounce "Llanfairpwllgwyngyll"
6. Enjoys Laverbread
7. Says "there's posh" unironically.

Dood he lived in Cardiff of course he didn't do any of that.

I mean, he did look a bit like a Welshman, I suppose, albeit one that's just got off a long shift down the mines.

Honestly, for me, that was one of the most frustrating fucking things about this whole case.

The plod couldn't tell us his name, his ethnic background, or who he was, but they were able to put on this fucking mummer's farce about him being born in Wales, when you, I and everybody else knew it wasn't some little bow-legged white bloke called Jenkins or Jefferies or Williams, with a lilting accent and a sheep under one arm, wearing a Cardiff City shirt.

Like, it may well technically be true that the dude was Welsh, but the way they delivered that information was deliberately obtuse and only designed to throw out a red herring.

 

[Otterly]

And we still don’t know why the family came over. Clearly not facing any real peril if they can go back for hols are they?

 

[3deadniggers]

Honestly? With inbreeding being something of a dirty secret in the upper echelons of the British populace, I think most nice posh, upper middle class families have got some pudgy older failsons amongst their ranks who, in any other walk of life, would be recognised as being riddled with the 'tism. Very well spoken men in their fifties, very polite, very academic, usually very knowledgeable about their special interests (which tend to be things like military history) in the way that autists often are, but absolutely clueless with regard to basic social graces or when people are either just humouring them or bored beyond tears by them, but too polite to say otherwise. They tend to have names like 'Jonty'.

I used to know a chap just like that, who was very pleasant and amiable, but clearly some kind of 'spergic. This dude reminds me of him, more than anyone.

You're talking old money, autistic inbred and brilliant in totally useless ways. He's the type of person who wishes he was old money so acts like a twat.

And we still don’t know why the family came over. Clearly not facing any real peril if they can go back for hols are they?

What's the official story given for this 'Welsh lad' with a forehead like a lightbulb?

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

You're talking old money, autistic inbred and brilliant in totally useless ways. He's the type of person who wishes he was old money so acts like a twat.

It's hard to articulate exactly the sort of person I'm talking about, really. It's definite a phenotype I have encountered on more than one occasion, though.

Sort of Tim Nice-But-Dim, but not quite.

Tim Nice-But-Dim, but with that slightly pompous 'teacherly' air that a lot of autistic people have - the 'little professor', I think they call it.

 

[Otterly]

What's the official story given for this 'Welsh lad' with a forehead like a lightbulb?

There isn’t one. They are just not talking about him at all. Entire emphasis is on the riots being far right Nazis blah blah.
Otherwise it’s radio silence. I have tried to dig where I can to see if I can find anything on them and nothing. I dont live in Cardiff so I can’t go to the archives and pull up any records either. Everything has been neatly scrubbed, even the mother’s Pinterest boards. It smacks of state involvement.

 

[3deadniggers]

There isn’t one. They are just not talking about him at all. Entire emphasis is on the riots being far right Nazis blah blah.
Otherwise it’s radio silence. I have tried to dig where I can to see if I can find anything on them and nothing. I dont live in Cardiff so I can’t go to the archives and pull up any records either. Everything has been neatly scrubbed, even the mother’s Pinterest boards. It smacks of state involvement.

There was the karate history right?

 

[Otterly]

There was the karate history right?

Yes. And there’s a YouTube video I’ve found which implies he was an underage soldier in the RPF as well as other allegations like being sent to the uk as a spy, but it’s all Rwandan diaspora facebook gossip , no documentation. And not in English. I’m trying archive it . Seems to be a channel with a definite political bias too

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

It smacks of state involvement.

The biggest comparison is the shooter down in Bristol I think. Before he hit the courts we know he was an incel. The police have 100% been through this fucker's phone and know a lot about his motivations. Radio silence to this degree suggests there is an explosion waiting to come.

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

where's the stuff on him having lived in / visited rwanda for hols on here? Is it buried deep in the other thread

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

The biggest comparison is the shooter down in Bristol I think. Before he hit the courts we know he was an incel. The police have 100% been through this fucker's phone and know a lot about his motivations. Radio silence to this degree suggests there is an explosion waiting to come.

Potentially - but if they were suppressing the truth because they feared a backlash, that's failed spectacularly. I don't think we've actually been told he's a Christian, just that he comes from a Christian family; he could well be a Muslim convert. The fact they're insisting on use a picture of him in primary school makes me think he could be visibly Islamic now.

He also did it just a few weeks before his 18th birthday, which suggests he was banking on the preferential treatment that minors get in the court system.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

I don't think we've actually been told he's a Christian, just that he comes from a Christian family

Not even certain that's the case, the only people who said they were Christians were former neighbours with no indication of how they knew they were Christian like having seen them in the local church.

 

[FedPostalService]

Not even certain that's the case, the only people who said they were Christians were former neighbours with no indication of how they knew they were Christian like having seen them in the local church.

That makes me suspicious that the neighbours are foreigners as British people haven’t went to church for decades.

 

[Cassius Crayfish]

That makes me suspicious that the neighbours are foreigners as British people haven’t went to church for decades.

Ian Paisley disliked this.

 

[ForTheHoard]

I really wanted to be supportive of the British people through all this but they talked me out of it.

 

[STARS158]

 

[3deadniggers]

The biggest comparison is the shooter down in Bristol I think. Before he hit the courts we know he was an incel. The police have 100% been through this fucker's phone and know a lot about his motivations. Radio silence to this degree suggests there is an explosion waiting to come.

This is trannyfesto 2.0 They will cover it as much as possible.

Not even certain that's the case, the only people who said they were Christians were former neighbours with no indication of how they knew they were Christian like having seen them in the local church.

Wasn't the Christian thing rumoured rather than confirmed?

I really wanted to be supportive of the British people through all this but they talked me out of it.

We may have talked you out of helping us but at least we're not being pump and dumped by a nigger.

 

[STARS158]