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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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There's a government funded, media campaign that is trying to convince people that the elderly and pensioners are the reason the country is poor, it isn't. They're trying to convince you to attack them, take their pensions and they pinky promise you will get yours, you won't.
Generational warfare is an important part of keeping the younger generations from discovering how bad things have got.
Most front-line NHS services are geared around smokers, who at least notionally pay for their use of the service through tobacco taxes, and fatties, who consume resources in approximately the same way they consume food. That aside, front line services are not the major portion of NHS spending. The vast majority of the NHS budget is spent on managers.
A&E is always clogged full of drunks. It's becoming easier to go to your doctors and collapse onto the reception to get medical treatment than call an ambulance or go to hospital. I have a hospital appointment for December right now. I booked it 2 months ago.
 
From experience - even that doesn't work.
Did they flog the desks to make more room for Africans at your surgery?

I don't understand how the country can be short on money. If you're in debt for 2,500 billion how do you keep track of it any more? It's all funny money at that point so what's the difference between 3,500 and 4,500 or 5,500? It's abstract bullshit no one is ever going to collect on or has any way to really keep track of. Half the banks supposedly owed money are collapsing any way and will print more fake money to keep this constant spiral going.
 
Pensioners have paid in to the system their whole lives, and far fewer of them messed around at college for years so they’ve been working since 16 or earlier. They deserve their pensions, and they deserve healthcare.
I learnt the hard way you answer no to that because they don’t listen to the next bit where you say their is a high percentage chance you’ll burn yourself to death.
You need to just answer no to most of that stuff, do t even start qualifying it. If you can’t do it some days the answer is no IMO.
Not most, but a lot, and this is exacerbated by the demographic bomb that's going off.
I wonder how much better things would be if we had work rates like they were before? But that I mean that we have all these new arrivals doing fuck all, paying no tax and being a net drain on the system. If we had the same population, but they were all working, and the usual mix of net plus or minus as we had before mass immigration and mass welfare what would that sum look like? It’s not just ‘too many oldies’ but it’s ’not Enough young people working’.
And those old people worked - my parents generation left school between 14-16 and worked. Long hours, no safety kit, they worked hard and they found it abhorrent to scrounge. The problem is not our elderly, it’s what’s happened to the country
 
That aside, front line services are not the major portion of NHS spending. The vast majority of the NHS budget is spent on managers.
Not even that.

Most of the money is going to Partnered and Senior GPs who have literally taken small NHS surgeries and turned them into moneylaundering businesses because of the sheer power being a Partner gives them. It's insane.
 
Not even that.

Most of the money is going to Partnered and Senior GPs who have literally taken small NHS surgeries and turned them into moneylaundering businesses because of the sheer power being a Partner gives them. It's insane.
Trying to point fingers is pointless. It's like saying you car has a flat tire when it's been crushed and left to rust in a scrap yard for 5 years. It's all fucked and a total collapse is the only way to resolve the situation.
 
A pension shouldn't be labelled as a benefit, it's a reward to those who paid into the pension pot, the same pot that was robbed by Tony B Liar and has been robbed ever since.
Just as a mild rant: Some women got to their retirement age of 60 and were told, most with no warning, that their new pension age will be 65, under the justification of "the country can't afford it". When those women reached 65 (last year) they were told "gotcha, bitch. It's now 66 years old". Again, under the justification of saving a cost. Those women have paid into the pot all of their lives and have lost approx £54,000 in owed money.

The government - and it doesn't matter which flavour because none will give that money back, have said it has saved £10 billion by doing this. You may think "that's good, let's save money". Well, two things, 1) They've done it once and they will do it again, I.E. rob YOU and b) the estimate of housing JUST THE BOAT PEOPLE is going to cost £10 billion between now and 2030.

There's a government funded, media campaign that is trying to convince people that the elderly and pensioners are the reason the country is poor, it isn't. They're trying to convince you to attack them, take their pensions and they pinky promise you will get yours, you won't.
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Pension isn't a benefit. Just like NHS isn't a benefit.
I don't believe what you said about WASPIs is true. They were warned and they should thank their feminist sisters for their "plight". They wanted equal pension "rights" and they got them. They were naive enough to think the government was going to improve the situation and make the standard pension age lower for everyone ? That's laughable.
Above all else, we all know what retirement is and it is up to the individual to make plans accordingly. What is it with people that they are so pathetic that they have to rely on the state for everything ? If you want a better pension, earlier retirement, then plan accordingly. Cut your cloth to suit your cap. I'm sick of people bleating about how unfair everything is.
There is no way ( as you allude to later ) that I think I will receive a pension from the state, despite having paid in a small fortune over many decades by the time I hit 67 ( 68...69....70......75+ projections for retirment age go up all the time for a myriad of reasons ).
Have I made other arrangements to cover my old age - you bet. I don't think that's being a pessimist, it's being a realist.
Otterly made an excellent counter point before that this could be a generational difference between myself and this group of women, attitudes change I suppose, but that argument doesn't have the same gravitas for me as the overiding feeling that an individual should be responsible for themself.
The boat people should be way down the list of priorities. As others have mentioned our system is way out of line in respect that our own ( such as the WASPIs ) should be looked after first.
 
Not even that.

Most of the money is going to Partnered and Senior GPs who have literally taken small NHS surgeries and turned them into moneylaundering businesses because of the sheer power being a Partner gives them. It's insane.
My experience is going back a few years now but I don't feel this is the case. I think @teriyakiburns has the right of it. I'll do my best to PL as little as possible but I've had some professional involvement in Primary Care in the UK (i.e. GP surgeries). The partners made good money but it wasn't the sort of headline figures you'd see in the papers. There were rare cases where that was true but that was always a "dispensing practice" where the GP partnership wasn't just the surgery but also had an on premises pharmacy as part of the same organisation. The partners effectively owned an entire pharmacist as well. A slightly dubious relationship but also something of an edge case - few practices are.

What I did notice was that a wave of news stories about how much GPs made shot round the papers for a few weeks and it was the scandal of the moment, and that this happened right before the Blair gov. made some changes to how GPs were paid which adversely affected them and which the Labour govt. had planned for sometime. It was one of my first awarenesses of how the government manipulates public opinion. Three weeks of loaded and edge-case stories about how much GPs made to prime the public before the govt. took a big cut out of how much docs earned.

Not saying they don't get paid well but seven years of medical school, exhausting novice period working in hospitals, a bunch of costs that you're probably not aware of. I mean I've been paid more than some of those partners and I've never even killed anybody.

Now what I did see, was things that support @teriyakiburns 's statement. I saw an "IT person" who was a self-employed contractor who was hired via an agency who worked for a company that leased him to the PCT (Primary Care Trust - a regional health authority). Multiple layers of profit skimming on a good hourly wage for a guy with as much tech knowledge as your average secondary school pupil. I saw management contract out work that they could have done cheaper AND more effectively in-house purely because they wanted a layer of deniability and a bit of paper saying they could point at someone else if the practices were unhappy. There is / was a guy on the South Coast who bought a yacht entirely with the proceeds of his company being the only one with a licence to make these tiny little cheap plastic things that were as simple in form as one of those Y-shaped tooth flossing sticks. I tens of millions thrown away on software that I could have got some people together for and and delivered for maybe as low as a million.

GPs get paid decently and Lord knows I've run into one or two who are downright dangerous, but if you want to know why the NHS leaks money look to regional bodies and most especially Who-You-Know licences and deals.
 
What I did notice was that a wave of news stories about how much GPs made shot round the papers for a few weeks and it was the scandal of the moment, and that this happened right before the Blair gov. made some changes to how GPs were paid which adversely affected them and which the Labour govt. had planned for sometime.
They did the same for appointments. Took a reasonable complaint that there was a bit of a wait for a GP appointment, ran a couple of weeks of intense messaging about appointment times and then set out the idea that it could be solved with "performance targets". Then, in order to create those targets, they changed the rules so that a GP couldn't book an appointment more than 72 hours ahead. It was an utter disaster. Surgeries switched to a first-come first-serve on-the-day booking system in order to avoid even the possibility of getting dinged for missing the new targets. Meanwhile, the NHS bureaucracy had a nice set of metrics to write reports about, the government could claim GP waiting lists were ended and everything was great, and patients completely lost the ability to be seen in a timely fashion.
 
most of the NHS is geared around pensioners?

Deathfats and pensioners. From my observations, going to the Doctors/hospital is a day out for a lot of old people and the diagnosis is a very well worded "You're just old". However because that person doctor specialist doesn't want to be on the hook for a misdiagnosis they always send these pensioners off for a MRE scan, specialist, blood test whatever just to cover themselves and clog up the system wasting resources. Now that's two days out and extra attention for these old people.

I don't know what happens with deathfats but "Put the fork down fatty" before we even consider giving you treatment would be a solution.
 
Deathfats and pensioners. From my observations, going to the Doctors/hospital is a day out for a lot of old people and the diagnosis is a very well worded "You're just old". However because that person doctor specialist doesn't want to be on the hook for a misdiagnosis they always send these pensioners off for a MRE scan, specialist, blood test whatever just to cover themselves and clog up the system wasting resources. Now that's two days out and extra attention for these old people.

I don't know what happens with deathfats but "Put the fork down fatty" before we even consider giving you treatment would be a solution.
I thought that was happening, they'd started refusing treatment until people got healthy. Like how they refuse liver transplants on active alcoholics.
 
Deathfats and pensioners. From my observations, going to the Doctors/hospital is a day out for a lot of old people and the diagnosis is a very well worded "You're just old". However because that person doctor specialist doesn't want to be on the hook for a misdiagnosis they always send these pensioners off for a MRE scan, specialist, blood test whatever just to cover themselves and clog up the system wasting resources. Now that's two days out and extra attention for these old people.

I don't know what happens with deathfats but "Put the fork down fatty" before we even consider giving you treatment would be a solution.
It's expected most end of life care is the biggest part of the NHS but it's a 2 fold problem. First is lack of community care forces it on the NHS, old folks don't have family support so someone has to do it. And people are living too long. By the time you're 90 you're fucked and no use to any one any more. So many of these fossils are still alive due to modern medicine it creates a rod for it's own back. I don't condemn people for not dying but it's an obvious problem. The more you can do to keep people alive the longer they require assistance to live and duty of care extends it beyond a reasonable point.

I was walking through town earlier and saw a bunch of fliers for 'refugee meet ups". Posters suggesting we make social events to create more families have got their wish, but it's all for the invaders. Probably terrorist cells and benefit scammers all meeting up to find new members but these events are happening nation wide and they're trying to encourage foreign breeding with them.
 
Another massive waste of money in the NHS is the way everything has been funnelled into emergency care. People flip their shit if you close an A&E but nobody cares if a diabetes clinic or pain management clinic gets shut down. The problem is, those boring clinics were great at managing problems before they became emergencies, and subsequently reduced A&E admissions and saved vast amounts of money, because the cost per patient at A&E is insane (not to mention the more expensive wards/meds/consultants someone in an otherwise preventable crisis now needs). I know multiple people (myself included) who have been told by their GPs "we can't treat your condition until it's bad enough for you to go to A&E". That even includes things like pain pills, nobody can get pain relief due to muh opioid crisis (which mostly involves Americans and Oxycodone which we almost never even prescribe here), they then go on disability because their pain isn't managed, and then every so often they get so bad they go to A&E for morphine and their GP STILL can't even get them co-codamol. Everything has been funnelled into emergency medicine and now that has broken as well.
 
and their GP STILL can't even get them co-codamol
Worse is it seems to be inconsistent. Just a few years back, I managed to get an appointment with my GP about an ongoing issue with my shoulder that had flared up again. I got a locum instead of the normal lass (who always wanted to put me on statins, but that's another story). I had barely finished explaining that I had an intermittent issue with my shoulder when he handed me a prescription for two weeks supply of 60mg co-codamol. Locum don't give a shit if you're genuine or just drug seeing I guess?

Anyway, another side of shoving everything into A&E is that it also has easily defined metrics, mostly in terms of patient throughput per hour and an average of x minutes of treatment time per patient per clinical staff.

And then there's the whole prestige project thing, which is why so many smaller units have shut down over the years. NHS trust managers like to gather all specialist treatments into single, enormous specialist hospitals so they can claim a bigger administrative staff and a corner office in a nice new, purpose-built building. They claim it's because they can offer more comprehensive specialist treatment if they concentrate specialisms in a single location, but it's all really just about the prestige of a big building and a huge budget, and nothing else. Meanwhile, local communities get shafted, because the eye unit at their local hospital has been shut down and transferred to a gigantic single-purpose hospital fifty miles away.
 
A pittance

Most front-line NHS services are geared around smokers, who at least notionally pay for their use of the service through tobacco taxes, and fatties, who consume resources in approximately the same way they consume food. That aside, front line services are not the major portion of NHS spending. The vast majority of the NHS budget is spent on managers.
3.7% of the NHS workforce is managerial. The salary banding for an NHS board's chief executive is less than a consultant in the same board is paid for ten sessions a week (i.e. full time work) after five years' qualification.

It's a poorly managed service because it's under managed, not because it's over managed. It's a poorly managed service because politically, no NHS board or trust is allowed to do what needs to be done, which is to start closing services. This is electorally toxic, and therefore is frustrated at every hand's turn.
 
, the same pot that was robbed by Tony B Liar and has been robbed ever since.
Just as a mild rant: Some women got to their retirement age of 60 and were told, most with no warning, that their new pension age will be 65, under the justification of "the country can't afford it". When those women reached 65 (last year) they were told "gotcha, bitch. It's now 66 years old". Again, under the justification of saving a cost. Those women have paid into the pot all of their lives and have lost approx £54,000 in owed money.
I don't believe what you said about WASPIs is true. They were warned and they should thank their feminist sisters for their "plight". They wanted equal pension "rights" and they got them. They were naive enough to think the government was going to improve the situation and make the standard pension age lower for everyone ? That's laughable.
Above all else, we all know what retirement is and it is up to the individual to make plans accordingly. What is it with people that they are so pathetic that they have to rely on the state for everything ? If you want a better pension, earlier retirement, then plan accordingly. Cut your cloth to suit your cap. I'm sick of people bleating about how unfair everything is.
There is no way ( as you allude to later ) that I think I will receive a pension from the state, despite having paid in a small fortune over many decades by the time I hit 67 ( 68...69....70......75+ projections for retirment age go up all the time for a myriad of reasons ).
Have I made other arrangements to cover my old age - you bet. I don't think that's being a pessimist, it's being a realist.
Otterly made an excellent counter point before that this could be a generational difference between myself and this group of women, attitudes change I suppose, but that argument doesn't have the same gravitas for me as the overiding feeling that an individual should be responsible for themself.
The boat people should be way down the list of priorities. As others have mentioned our system is way out of line in respect that our own ( such as the WASPIs ) should be looked after first.
Couple points of clarification:
Pensions were lowered to age 65 for men and 60 for women in 1940. Up until this point, only about a quarter of people lived long enough to draw a pension. There were no pensions before 1908, the expectation was you'd just save or be supported by family if you got too old to work, and when pensions were brought in they were a pittance of about 5s (£30/week in today's money). In the 1920s the pension age was lowered to 65, but the average man would die 6 years before he could draw his pension. The rationale for lowering pensions for women in 1940 was that men tended to marry younger women, women tended to live longer than men, and so the average woman would receive a State Pension for about 4 years before she died (only around 25% of adult men were able to live long enough to claim a pension). Up until 1977, married women could choose to pay "small stamp" National Insurance, which was a lower rate of contribution based on the idea she relied on her breadwinner husband.

The raised pension ages were implemented under John Major via the Pensions Act 1995, which set out scope to start raising the pension age from 2010 onwards. The rationale for this was nothing to do with feminist campaigning; instead it was that women were forming a larger part of the workforce so it needed to equalise. The goal was to raise state pension age in graduated steps between 2010 and 2020, so e.g. a woman who would have retired at age 60 in 2011 would instead be retiring age 62 in 2013. In 2020 the pension age would be 65 for both.

The Pensions Act 2007 brought in under Blair then said that once people had reached equilibrium in pension age in 2020, the age would start gradually increasing to age 68 by 2046.

WASPI women's point of contention is that this was then poorly communicated by that government and then the successive Labour government, which meant they made assumptions about the retirement age remaining at 60 that lead to them making financial decisions like going part retired early that then lead to troubles when they couldn't retire at the age they'd planned.

There were actually awareness campaigns - the Pensions service sent out automatic pension notifications in the early 00s which included a leaflet specifically stating it -
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but it was only on page 2 of a leaflet folded inside a letter than didn't specifically mention anything beyond "if you retire at State Pension Age", so you needed to pay attention and read the whole thing, which a lot of people don't. There were also advertising campaigns:
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These were on TV, in women's mags, newspapers, on phone boxes, at bus stops, on TV etc but they're also not immediately obvious. There was also information available for anyone who asked at job centres and pension centres, but you had to know about it to ask. It wasn't until 2009 that they actually started sending out letters saying "You can't retire in 2011! It's going to be 2013!".
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But then the Coalition Conservative and Conservative Government passed more Pensions Acts in 2011 and 2014, modifying the timetable for retirement age changes again, which meant women who were supposed to retire age 60 in 2013 were instead going to retire age 65 in 2018, and women who were supposed to retire age 60 in 2021 will instead be retiring at age 67 in 2028. Thus they got even worse surprises.
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The WASPI women were mildly screwed over by people not explaining in the 1970s that paying small stamp National Insurance meant they'd have less pension, and also the Government did not effectively communicate the changes to the public. They could have found out if they'd really paid attention that there were planned reforms to their pension ages, but it is the job of the Government to make sure the message is clear to the public.
They were MASSIVELY screwed over by the current Government, who changed it so many women were suddenly notified shortly before retirement that they had to work another seven years if they wanted a pension, which then meant their retirement plans were massively fucked up and they were out of pocket (possibly because they'd already gone part retired. A woman who'd gone part retired at age 50 with a sensible amount of savings to dip into until she could start drawing a state pension at 60 had little chance of knowing she might need to work another 3 years, and no way of knowing that she'd need to work another 7 years because that legislation had not been passed.
Blair did not exactly steal from the pension pot in the sense of there was loads of money sitting around, and it doesn't relate to State Pension but to private pensions.

Defined benefit pensions used to be relatively common for larger employers - if you stayed with a company for life, you'd receive a final salary pension (or similar), but if you left before retirement you'd get a smaller amount. There was typically a guaranteed minimum pension of, say, £400/month.

You or your employer could then also choose to "contract out" of the Additional National Insurance rate. You needed to pay Additional NI to qualify for Additional State Pension/State Second Pension/SERPS (basically if you didn't pay it, you'd be on a lower rate of state pension). Most public sector employees and lots of private sector defined benefit pension employees were contracted out. The benefit was you had more money in your pocket on pay day, and the company had to spend less in National Insurance contributions. So they'd put more money into your defined benefit contribution, and you'd be guaranteed that £400/month guaranteed minimum pension from your workplace pension and then additional benefits of £600/month as a result of contracting out, so £1000/month.

When private pensions put up their guaranteed minimum pension due to revaluations (e.g. inflation), they'd sometimes do a dirty financial trick. Your guaranteed minimum pension had increased to £700/month when you finally claimed your pension, but the pension fund would still only pay you £1000/month total, rather than adding your £600/month additional benefit to the £700/month for £1300/month. They were basically pocketing the difference and paying for the increased valuation of your minimum pension out of the benefits that should have been yours. This process was called franking.

This got cracked down on with anti-franking legislation in 1985, but it then caused open season on pension operators. Private pensions had tax relief for pension contributions, but this had enabled them to hoard large surpluses, from the 1986 budget;
However, I do need to deal with the growing problem of the rules governing pension fund surpluses. The dramatic improvement in the financial climate compared with a decade ago, most notably as a result of the sharp fall in inflation, has seen a number of pension funds become heavily over-funded. This presents a double problem, both aspects of which the Inland Revenue is at present having to deal with through the exercise of its discretionary powers.

In the first place, excessive surpluses, even if they arise unintentionally, represent the misuse of a tax privilege which was intended to assist the provision of pensions, and for no other purpose. So the Inland Revenue requires from time to time that surpluses be diminished. However, at the same time, the Inland Revenue feels obliged to turn down many of the increasing number of requests from companies which, often for good reasons, wish to take refunds from their pension fund into the company itself.

The absence of clear rules on how surpluses should and may be dealt with, and the consequent reliance that has to be placed on the exercise by the Inland Revenue of its discretion, have created considerable uncertainty and have unnecessarily constrained trustees' freedom of action. Therefore, I propose to replace these discretionary arrangements with clear and objective statutory provisions. In future, the amount of any surplus in a fund will be determined for tax purposes in accordance with published guidelines, based on a secure funding method and prudent actuarial assumptions, as advised by the Government Actuary. Where a surplus is 5 per cent. or less of total liabilities, no action will need to be taken. Where it is higher than that, action will be required to eliminate the excess.

It will be entirely a matter for the trustees and employers to decide whether the reduction is to be achieved by increasing benefits, or by reducing contributions, or by making a refund to the company. If, and only if, they choose to make a refund, the employer will be liable to tax at a rate of 40 per cent. of the amount refunded, so as broadly to recover the tax relief previously given. The effect of these new arrangements is likely to be a yield of £20 million in 1986–87 and £120 million in 1987–88.
Basically Thatcher's chancellor Nigel Lawson brought in an additional rule, that if pensions funds had more than 5% surplus over their liabilities, they'd be subjected to tax unless they either stopped putting money in for a while, increased pensions or alternatively gave "refunds" to the company - which encouraged generous early retirement schemes in the late 80s and 90s (retire age 50 and get a massive lump sum tax free!).

Then there was also the Advance Corporation Tax, which had come into play under the 1973 Ted Heath government. Basically, it was supposed to stop a business paying out its profits as dividends, and so they'd withhold 30% of the value of the dividend as ACT, but if the recipient was tax-free (like a pension fund) then they'd be able to claim that 30% back. This gradually got reduced to a 20% claim back of 22.5% paid out under Major, and then Gordon Brown abolished ACT completely in 1997. This meant pension funds started losing out on their tax relief on dividends at completely to the tune of £5bn a year. Initially that wasn't a very significant amount but it compounded year-on-year with lost interest, so a pension fund simply didn't accrue like it used to.

There were also a couple of other things, so there was a change to how accountancy was conducted in the early 00s (unrelated to government) that meant instead of pensions being treated as future concerns, the entire pension liability was shown as a black hole in the budget if they didn't have the assets to cover them completely in the event they closed down tomorrow (the previous 15 years had discouraged them for hoarding money), which further discouraged companies. Also for a variety of reasons pension funds had become over reliant on equity securities, which meant they were hit hard by the Dot Com crash and then the 2008 financial crisis.
The pensions deficit was not helped by Gordon Brown's actions, but the towering rise in pension funds from the 1970s - 1990s and ensuing highly generous early retirement schemes etc were really just a blip in a strange system, and the deficits of the 00s were often more to do with factors outside the government's control. It's why most private pensions are defined contribution rather than defined benefit now.
 
most of the NHS is geared around pensioners?
Deathfats and pensioners.
In addition to those two, you can't forget the Pakistanis.
They marry & fuck their first cousins because Mohammed did it, and end up having tons of babies plagued with genetic illnesses, to the point where around 1 in 3 births in the British-Pakistani community have at least one known genetic illness. And when that genetic illness is something serious that requires lifelong treatment, they end up being massive drains to the NHS. When they're told to stop inbreeding, they get mad and scream that it's racist to tell them to stop because "it's our culture".
 
In addition to those two, you can't forget the Pakistanis.
They marry & fuck their first cousins because Mohammed did it,
Now only one of Mohammed's wives was a First Cousin. And the ones seized in battle by his soldiers and given to him were from different regions he was conquering so highly unlikely to be blood related to him. So nothing wrong with those marriages.

Here is a handy family tree for him.
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The actual reason for the practice of so much cousin marriage amongst Pakistani background is to keep the money all in one family.
 
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